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SAFenix
Canada439 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote: People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach. Link? | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19305 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:34 SAFenix wrote: What happened to Rain... There was a time when anytime he played, you know he would win. He's basically the reason SKT is out now... He only shines when the playoffs aren't around. Last year he was burdened with the GSL and lost both the GSL and the playoffs. This year he does poorly in OSL and playoffs. He has too much to concentrate on. He may be like Bisu where you either focus on individuals or team leagues. And skt told Bisu to focus on teamleagues and you see how it worked for them. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote: I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly. Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches. I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer schedule anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote: I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side. He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406428 | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote: I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side. I don't think that OOV "lived the life of a gruelling pro-gamer," when he worked for SKT but his underlings still did just fine. He was married and had a son, and was forced to retire after losing passion for the game and messing up his wrist. | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:28 IntoTheheart wrote: Is it just me or are SKT and WJS the only two "balanced," teams in the playoffs? They have deep lineups so they can feasibly send out a lot of their players for ace matches. The joke with KTFlash has some merit and I don't know if anyone else in STX is as good as Innovation. Hmmm, I would hesitate to agree about SKT this season. It's sort of true, but many of their players (I think) have seemed quite unreliable. Plenty that are capable but none that have played consistently enough. They all have their weaknesses. FanTaSy really seems affected by streaks, Rain apparently is also ad doesn't seem good in Ace matches, but they and numerous others have also performed very well at other times. I actually feel like STX has a more reliable line-up, even if there are less players that you would consider as skilled as more of the SKT players. They seem more solid. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:35 rift wrote: 3rd most wins in Proleague? Rain is the reason they made it this far. yeah like 2011 LeBron | ||
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SAFenix
Canada439 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:37 BisuDagger wrote: He only shines when the playoffs aren't around. Last year he was burdened with the GSL and lost both the GSL and the playoffs. This year he does poorly in OSL and playoffs. He has too much to concentrate on. He may be like Bisu where you either focus on individuals or team leagues. And skt told Bisu to focus on teamleagues and you see how it worked for them. But if he were truly a great player, which I believe he is, he would be able to handle it like INnoVation. INnoVation single-handedly carried STX this far (arguably Trap as well) and still manages to win every fricking game in OSL. It's depressing that Rain can't carry Bisu's torch | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19305 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:35 rift wrote: 3rd most wins in Proleague? Rain is the reason they made it this far. Most of that came from WOL. And yes he helped out a lot while the rest of the team pretty much was fickle over who would be good or bad. I honestly can't believe SKT even made the playoff with so many weaknesses. But Rain was strong enough to carry us most of the time. But he failed when it matters two years in a row now. SKT has some rebuilding to do. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Hmmm, I would hesitate to agree about SKT this season. It's sort of true, but many of their players (I think) have seemed quite unreliable. Plenty that are capable but none that have played consistently enough. They all have their weaknesses. FanTaSy really seems affected by streaks, Rain apparently is also ad doesn't seem good in Ace matches, but they and numerous others have also performed very well at other times. I actually feel like STX has a more reliable line-up, even if there are less players that you would consider as skilled as more of the SKT players. They seem more solid. The only part of this that makes me really worried is Fantasy being streaky. Wasn't he known for being a rock which weighed the team down in BW or am I just misremembering? | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
Not exactly recent.. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
He also kinda understands that he's not this shining icon of amazing coaching... | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:38 zefreak wrote: He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore. TIL that Boxer has no ring attached to...(I only know her English reference) Jessica, was it? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19305 Posts
That recent interview was from 4 month ago! LMAO. He's done so much with the team. Try harder next time | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:38 zefreak wrote: He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore. Did he end up getting divorced? | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
They never got married to begin with, they are still dating | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
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Erraa93
Australia891 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:40 BisuDagger wrote: Most of that came from WOL. And yes he helped out a lot while the rest of the team pretty much was fickle over who would be good or bad. I honestly can't believe SKT even made the playoff with so many weaknesses. But Rain was strong enough to carry us most of the time. But he failed when it matters two years in a row now. SKT has some rebuilding to do. Seems like Rain kind of needs to get his head back into the game. | ||
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