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SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
July 14 2013 06:36 GMT
#981
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote:
People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach.

Link?
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 14 2013 06:36 GMT
#982
I agree with Fusilero. He should have sent out soO for a roach bane bust
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
July 14 2013 06:37 GMT
#983
On July 14 2013 15:34 SAFenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:32 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:25 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Rain shows zero effort & spirit with that play what the fuck
maybe SKT should move BoxeR to another role and have oov as coach for next season

Wth is wrong with you?

Seriously. Boxer did poorly in the first winner league format round as a coach. But today this was not him. He trusted Rain to step it up because Rain has been the best all season.

Yeah honestly. Boxer isn't January who sends out random lower A-team players in important ace matches. Rain was probably one of the best SPL players and choked at a really inopportune time.

He choked at 3 inopportune times this playoffs and 3 times last season!

For those who want to defend Rain, he hasn't won a playoff game in SC2 yet.

What happened to Rain... There was a time when anytime he played, you know he would win. He's basically the reason SKT is out now...

He only shines when the playoffs aren't around. Last year he was burdened with the GSL and lost both the GSL and the playoffs. This year he does poorly in OSL and playoffs. He has too much to concentrate on. He may be like Bisu where you either focus on individuals or team leagues. And skt told Bisu to focus on teamleagues and you see how it worked for them.
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 06:39:36
July 14 2013 06:37 GMT
#984
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer schedule anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 14 2013 06:38 GMT
#985
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.


He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore.
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
July 14 2013 06:38 GMT
#986
On July 14 2013 15:36 SAFenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote:
People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach.

Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406428
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 14 2013 06:39 GMT
#987
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.


I don't think that OOV "lived the life of a gruelling pro-gamer," when he worked for SKT but his underlings still did just fine.

He was married and had a son, and was forced to retire after losing passion for the game and messing up his wrist.
kiss kiss fall in love
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
July 14 2013 06:39 GMT
#988
On July 14 2013 15:28 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is it just me or are SKT and WJS the only two "balanced," teams in the playoffs? They have deep lineups so they can feasibly send out a lot of their players for ace matches. The joke with KTFlash has some merit and I don't know if anyone else in STX is as good as Innovation.

Hmmm, I would hesitate to agree about SKT this season.
It's sort of true, but many of their players (I think) have seemed quite unreliable. Plenty that are capable but none that have played consistently enough. They all have their weaknesses. FanTaSy really seems affected by streaks, Rain apparently is also ad doesn't seem good in Ace matches, but they and numerous others have also performed very well at other times.

I actually feel like STX has a more reliable line-up, even if there are less players that you would consider as skilled as more of the SKT players. They seem more solid.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 14 2013 06:39 GMT
#989
On July 14 2013 15:35 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:32 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:25 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Rain shows zero effort & spirit with that play what the fuck
maybe SKT should move BoxeR to another role and have oov as coach for next season

Wth is wrong with you?

Seriously. Boxer did poorly in the first winner league format round as a coach. But today this was not him. He trusted Rain to step it up because Rain has been the best all season.

Yeah honestly. Boxer isn't January who sends out random lower A-team players in important ace matches. Rain was probably one of the best SPL players and choked at a really inopportune time.

He choked at 3 inopportune times this playoffs and 3 times last season!

For those who want to defend Rain, he hasn't won a playoff game in SC2 yet.

3rd most wins in Proleague? Rain is the reason they made it this far.

yeah like 2011 LeBron
SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
July 14 2013 06:39 GMT
#990
On July 14 2013 15:37 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:34 SAFenix wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:32 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:25 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Rain shows zero effort & spirit with that play what the fuck
maybe SKT should move BoxeR to another role and have oov as coach for next season

Wth is wrong with you?

Seriously. Boxer did poorly in the first winner league format round as a coach. But today this was not him. He trusted Rain to step it up because Rain has been the best all season.

Yeah honestly. Boxer isn't January who sends out random lower A-team players in important ace matches. Rain was probably one of the best SPL players and choked at a really inopportune time.

He choked at 3 inopportune times this playoffs and 3 times last season!

For those who want to defend Rain, he hasn't won a playoff game in SC2 yet.

What happened to Rain... There was a time when anytime he played, you know he would win. He's basically the reason SKT is out now...

He only shines when the playoffs aren't around. Last year he was burdened with the GSL and lost both the GSL and the playoffs. This year he does poorly in OSL and playoffs. He has too much to concentrate on. He may be like Bisu where you either focus on individuals or team leagues. And skt told Bisu to focus on teamleagues and you see how it worked for them.

But if he were truly a great player, which I believe he is, he would be able to handle it like INnoVation. INnoVation single-handedly carried STX this far (arguably Trap as well) and still manages to win every fricking game in OSL. It's depressing that Rain can't carry Bisu's torch
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
July 14 2013 06:40 GMT
#991
On July 14 2013 15:35 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:32 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:25 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Rain shows zero effort & spirit with that play what the fuck
maybe SKT should move BoxeR to another role and have oov as coach for next season

Wth is wrong with you?

Seriously. Boxer did poorly in the first winner league format round as a coach. But today this was not him. He trusted Rain to step it up because Rain has been the best all season.

Yeah honestly. Boxer isn't January who sends out random lower A-team players in important ace matches. Rain was probably one of the best SPL players and choked at a really inopportune time.

He choked at 3 inopportune times this playoffs and 3 times last season!

For those who want to defend Rain, he hasn't won a playoff game in SC2 yet.

3rd most wins in Proleague? Rain is the reason they made it this far.

Most of that came from WOL. And yes he helped out a lot while the rest of the team pretty much was fickle over who would be good or bad. I honestly can't believe SKT even made the playoff with so many weaknesses. But Rain was strong enough to carry us most of the time. But he failed when it matters two years in a row now. SKT has some rebuilding to do.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 14 2013 06:40 GMT
#992
On July 14 2013 15:39 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:28 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is it just me or are SKT and WJS the only two "balanced," teams in the playoffs? They have deep lineups so they can feasibly send out a lot of their players for ace matches. The joke with KTFlash has some merit and I don't know if anyone else in STX is as good as Innovation.

Hmmm, I would hesitate to agree about SKT this season.
It's sort of true, but many of their players (I think) have seemed quite unreliable. Plenty that are capable but none that have played consistently enough. They all have their weaknesses. FanTaSy really seems affected by streaks, Rain apparently is also ad doesn't seem good in Ace matches, but they and numerous others have also performed very well at other times.

I actually feel like STX has a more reliable line-up, even if there are less players that you would consider as skilled as more of the SKT players. They seem more solid.


The only part of this that makes me really worried is Fantasy being streaky. Wasn't he known for being a rock which weighed the team down in BW or am I just misremembering?
kiss kiss fall in love
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 14 2013 06:41 GMT
#993
On July 14 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:36 SAFenix wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote:
People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach.

Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406428


Not exactly recent..
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 14 2013 06:41 GMT
#994
On July 14 2013 15:41 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:36 SAFenix wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote:
People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach.

Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406428


Not exactly recent..


He also kinda understands that he's not this shining icon of amazing coaching...
kiss kiss fall in love
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 14 2013 06:41 GMT
#995
On July 14 2013 15:38 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.


He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore.


TIL that Boxer has no ring attached to...(I only know her English reference) Jessica, was it?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
July 14 2013 06:41 GMT
#996
On July 14 2013 15:38 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:36 SAFenix wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:35 larse wrote:
People who said that the fault is NOT Boxer clearly didn't read the recent interview of boxer. He is almost unqualified to be a coach.

Link?



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406428

That recent interview was from 4 month ago! LMAO. He's done so much with the team. Try harder next time
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 14 2013 06:43 GMT
#997
On July 14 2013 15:38 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.


He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore.

Did he end up getting divorced?
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 14 2013 06:43 GMT
#998
On July 14 2013 15:43 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:38 zefreak wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:37 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:30 Alabasern wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 zefreak wrote:
Why are people blaming Boxer and jumping to conclusions regarding his ability to connect to players? What a joke.


SlayerS mainly for me, and his disconnection from the failure of being a pro-player.


I wouldn't say that he was a failure, I'm pretty sure that he got further than most players close to retirement when he switched. NaDa, YellOw, Reach, Anytime, to name a few players who were basically inactive all did pretty poorly.

Honestly I'd think that Boxer would know what it's like to be a progamer more than any of the other coaches.


I should rephrase my premise, that Boxer doesn't appear to live the out the gruelling pro-gamer anymore. He's married, and has had many professional and business accomplishments in his life. He isn't rising from the ashes anymore, a warrior built out of the struggle. He's just the Emperor with all his countrymen by his side.


He's not married, but you are right he isn't struggling and sacrificing anymore.

Did he end up getting divorced?


They never got married to begin with, they are still dating
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Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
July 14 2013 06:44 GMT
#999
Glad that STX won. Now they just need to beat KT so that there's a Woongjin vs STX finals
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
July 14 2013 06:44 GMT
#1000
On July 14 2013 15:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:35 rift wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:32 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:25 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 14 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Rain shows zero effort & spirit with that play what the fuck
maybe SKT should move BoxeR to another role and have oov as coach for next season

Wth is wrong with you?

Seriously. Boxer did poorly in the first winner league format round as a coach. But today this was not him. He trusted Rain to step it up because Rain has been the best all season.

Yeah honestly. Boxer isn't January who sends out random lower A-team players in important ace matches. Rain was probably one of the best SPL players and choked at a really inopportune time.

He choked at 3 inopportune times this playoffs and 3 times last season!

For those who want to defend Rain, he hasn't won a playoff game in SC2 yet.

3rd most wins in Proleague? Rain is the reason they made it this far.

Most of that came from WOL. And yes he helped out a lot while the rest of the team pretty much was fickle over who would be good or bad. I honestly can't believe SKT even made the playoff with so many weaknesses. But Rain was strong enough to carry us most of the time. But he failed when it matters two years in a row now. SKT has some rebuilding to do.


Seems like Rain kind of needs to get his head back into the game.
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