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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_eu_lr.jpg) Tuesday, Jul 09 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Europe/Premier TL Preview: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420614
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: Kaelaris & Apollo ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS Europe
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/06/Dk.png)  BabyKnight vs. WelmuStarting map: Derelict Watcher![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/98/Nl.png)  Ret vs. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/d0/Se.png)  ThorZaINStarting map: Whirlwind
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BabyKnight vs. Welmu Game 1
BabyKnight vs. Welmu Game 2
BabyKnight vs. Welmu Game 3
Ret vs. ThorZaIN Game 1
Ret vs. ThorZaIN Game 2
Ret vs. ThorZaIN Game 3
Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3
Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [BabyKnight vs. Welmu] +Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 1?Yes (11) 85% No (1) 8% If you have time (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 2?Yes (18) 95% If you have time (1) 5% No (0) 0% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 3?Yes (6) 50% If you have time (4) 33% No (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1?Yes (7) 47% If you have time (5) 33% No (3) 20% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 2?No (8) 67% Yes (2) 17% If you have time (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 3?If you have time (7) 70% Yes (2) 20% No (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Set 1?If you have time (4) 50% No (3) 38% Yes (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Set 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Set 2?No (6) 75% Yes (2) 25% If you have time (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Set 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Set 3?Yes (11) 46% No (11) 46% If you have time (2) 8% 24 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Set 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Set 1?Yes (4) 44% If you have time (4) 44% No (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Set 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Set 2?No (8) 80% Yes (1) 10% If you have time (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Set 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Set 3?No (7) 78% Yes (1) 11% If you have time (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Set 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match Set 1?If you have time (2) 67% Yes (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Set 1? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Set 2?No (7) 64% Yes (2) 18% If you have time (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Set 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Set 3?No (6) 75% Yes (2) 25% If you have time (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Set 3? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Who makes it out of the group?BabyKnight & Welmu (15) 42% BabyKnight & ThorZaIN (7) 19% Welmu & ThorZaIN (5) 14% BabyKnight & Ret (3) 8% Welmu & Ret (3) 8% Ret & ThorZaIN (3) 8% 36 total votes Your vote: Who makes it out of the group? (Vote): BabyKnight & Welmu
(Vote): BabyKnight & Ret
(Vote): BabyKnight & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Welmu & Ret
(Vote): Welmu & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Ret & ThorZaIN
Poll: Who do you want to make it out of the group?BabyKnight & Welmu (11) 32% BabyKnight & ThorZaIN (7) 21% Welmu & ThorZaIN (7) 21% Ret & ThorZaIN (7) 21% Welmu & Ret (2) 6% BabyKnight & Ret (0) 0% 34 total votes Your vote: Who do you want to make it out of the group? (Vote): BabyKnight & Welmu
(Vote): BabyKnight & Ret
(Vote): BabyKnight & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Welmu & Ret
(Vote): Welmu & ThorZaIN
(Vote): Ret & ThorZaIN
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BabyKnight & Welmu all the way!
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United States97276 Posts
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We seem to be in an agreement.
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Norway25712 Posts
Is it out of fashion to cheer for Ret these days?
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On July 10 2013 00:48 KristofferAG wrote:
Is it out of fashion to cheer for Ret these days?
I cheer for Ret!  And T-Funk of course :D
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I like the color red so I will cheer for the players with red in their flags
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Norway25712 Posts
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Why did they switch places? I feel confused now 
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Welmju with the godly PvP stats! Hopefully he'll deliver.
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their casting style seems a bit different from before... more 'professional' i suppose? kinda like it's more scripted.
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gogo Thorzain! 
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On July 10 2013 01:04 Schelim wrote:
their casting style seems a bit different from before... more 'professional' i suppose? kinda like it's more scripted.
Well, pregame is always a bit more scripted (if you prepare, that is), the real casting is probably more free flowing.
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I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played.
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On July 10 2013 01:04 Schelim wrote:
their casting style seems a bit different from before... more 'professional' i suppose? kinda like it's more scripted.
They are just "THAT GOOD" 
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On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played.
So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL.
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On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL.
What's wrong with the OSL outfits?
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On July 10 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL. What's wrong with the OSL outfits?
It's like OGN's wardrobe people are told to dress Doa and Monte in ugly suits.
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On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL.
Shaun Clark @ApolloSC2 44m
Did you know for every SC2 show, I never dress myself.. #WCS
ReDeYe @PaulChaloner 44m
If the tie is wonky on @ApolloSC2 today, blame me.
He can't dress, but choses the clothes he says.
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So Redeye is responsible. Should have guessed, it is a gentlemans tie.
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On July 10 2013 01:10 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL. What's wrong with the OSL outfits? It's like OGN's wardrobe people are told to dress Doa and Monte in ugly suits.
you should really watch the Korean stream. They've been rocking a new pimp suit everyday
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On July 10 2013 01:12 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:10 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL. What's wrong with the OSL outfits? It's like OGN's wardrobe people are told to dress Doa and Monte in ugly suits. you should really watch the Korean stream. They've been rocking a new pimp suit everyday
Wouldn't surprise me, watching the show they had after the broadcast had me impressed.
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Woah Welmu is playing so good right now.
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What the... why is the German stream not casting the game?
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Kennigit
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I retied that shit to make it look good. It was C- tied before.
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Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 1?Yes (11) 85% No (1) 8% If you have time (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 1? (Vote): Yes
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tsitsi! Powerful start by Welmu
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Well done Welmu.
Screw Twitch, lag starts when the final attack begins, starts moving again when the victory screen appears.
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Apollo and Kaelaris looking really sharp. Great shirt and tie combination from Apollo there.
That was also a great game from Welmu, doing everything right.
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On July 10 2013 01:18 Kennigit wrote:
I retied that shit to make it look good. It was C- tied before.
Lol, seems like the whole esl-crew is a part of dressing Apollo.
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On July 10 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL. What's wrong with the OSL outfits?
I can't speak for today's choice, but generally the Korean fashion sense for broadcast people is horrible. It's as if someone took a wardrobe and dipped it into a pool of melted crayons.
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On July 10 2013 01:19 StarVe wrote:
Well done Welmu.
Screw Twitch, lag starts when the final attack begins, starts moving again when the victory screen appears.
Have you tried R1CH's experimental thing? I feel like this is a great opportunity for that. Should be added to the OP if possible.
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On July 10 2013 01:20 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:18 Kennigit wrote:
I retied that shit to make it look good. It was C- tied before. Lol, seems like the whole esl-crew is a part of dressing Apollo.
Takes a lot of effort to make someone look good.
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On July 10 2013 01:20 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:20 Musicus wrote:On July 10 2013 01:18 Kennigit wrote:
I retied that shit to make it look good. It was C- tied before. Lol, seems like the whole esl-crew is a part of dressing Apollo. Takes a lot of effort to make someone look good.
But Apollo always looks good anyway! The brit-boy caster.
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On July 10 2013 01:20 WigglingSquid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 10 2013 01:08 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I give Apollos tie the highest score - 10/10. Beautifully played. So refreshing watching people that can dress to impress after watching OSL. What's wrong with the OSL outfits? I can't speak for today's choice, but generally the Korean fashion sense for broadcast people is horrible. It's as if someone took a wardrobe and dipped it into a pool of melted crayons.
Blue shirts, gold tie, black and white checkered jackets.
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welmu with 2 straight incontrol builds?
classy
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On July 10 2013 01:24 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Who ordered the lag? :/
So it's not just me?
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On July 10 2013 01:26 Fuell wrote:
welmu with 2 straight incontrol builds?
classy
can't be an Incontrol build, he just won
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On July 10 2013 01:27 JustPassingBy wrote:So it's not just me?
Nope, you're never alone when it comes to lag on Twitch.
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On July 10 2013 01:28 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:26 Fuell wrote:
welmu with 2 straight incontrol builds?
classy can't be an Incontrol build, he just won
oh yea
the inca build *
my bad
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Welmu should totally be a cool guy and go Carriers.
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Thank You o Great R1CH for allowing me to watch this show without too much lag and spikes!
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first time i see such good multitask from protoss ^^! welmu so good play
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Welmu got Tempests. That should do it.
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Wat, why didn't Welmu suicide his units to kill the main?
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Welmu's army is terrifying
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FFS Babyknight, you have a stargate! Build a phoenix to shut down the warp prism!!
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I can't believe how passive BabyK is, he is just getting herassed to death.
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I was hoping Welmu would use his tempests to snipe that third. I don't understand why Babyknight hasn't made a phoenix or a void ray to take out that warp prism.
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Seriously though why is Welmu refusing to kill the main Nexus.
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You have dt's ? oh let me build ... 2 observers and never any more o0
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On July 10 2013 01:24 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Who ordered the lag? :/
Try this, bitch
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Not targeting the colossi with tempest was such a blunder in the initial battle, he still has the game by the looks of it though.
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On July 10 2013 01:37 KristofferAG wrote:
Seriously though why is Welmu refusing to kill the main Nexus.
he's just preparing for the long game against Thorzain later on
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On July 10 2013 01:40 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:37 KristofferAG wrote:
Seriously though why is Welmu refusing to kill the main Nexus. he's just preparing for the long game against Thorzain later on
Ret's in this group too. We may never play Group F.
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yeah, that is not very pretty.
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That was pretty cool PvP frpm Welmu.
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Welmu! Welmu! Welmu!
Woohoo, looking good.
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Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 2?Yes (18) 95% If you have time (1) 5% No (0) 0% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 3?Yes (6) 50% If you have time (4) 33% No (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend BabyKnight v Welmu Set 3? (Vote): Yes
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if i were ret or thorzain playing against welmu, i would build a lot of missle turrets/ spore crawlers :D!
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Really well-played PvPs from Welmu. The second game could have been less close if he just made more warpgates to begin with and focused all the colossi with his tempests in the first engagement.
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I must admit that 720p does not lag, meanwhile 320p and 480p are laggy as hell for me ;O It affects both WCS Europe stream and Grubby's stream at the same time.
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Winnish powwah! 
On July 10 2013 01:40 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Try this, bitch
But I don't do Windows. Does it work well? R1CH is a wizard.
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Has someone who stopped watching WoL near the end and is now just watching HOTS. That PvP was quite enjoyable to watch.
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On July 10 2013 01:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:Winnish powwah! Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:40 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On July 10 2013 01:24 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Who ordered the lag? :/ Try this, bitch But I don't do Windows. Does it work well? R1CH is a wizard.
No clue, I'm installing it right now. Can't get worse anyway.
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On July 10 2013 01:44 DrunkeN. wrote:
Has someone who stopped watching WoL near the end and is now just watching HOTS. That PvP was quite enjoyable to watch.
Yeah, PvP is still full of different openers (even a bit more so now), and has multiple lategame armies that can clash. Much better to watch instead of laser beams.
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Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right?
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I hope more PvP's go this way in the future. It was very rough around the edges but very entertaining to watch. Amazed Welmu was able to win a PvP without splash damage (unless you count Archons)
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On July 10 2013 01:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right?
Yeah, it's something that's used once in a while, but not all that often. It would have been really good with the third base snipe, but I think it's harder against colossi because you risk getting blinked on.
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Pretty sure Thorzain will win this one.
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Love how they introduce players in a positive way: "Suffers from inconsistency," "Arguably past his peak."
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On July 10 2013 01:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right?
I believe they have 15 range with extra damage against the colossi, so that's good. As for the oracle part, it's twice the gas of an observer and 3 supply to the observer's 1. Plus the vision's temporary. Also, it takes building time from your stargate while your robo is idle. Doesn't seem quite as practical.
On July 10 2013 01:51 TheDwf wrote:
Love how they introduce players in a positive way: "Suffers from inconsistency," "Arguably past his peak."
Interesting that you feel that way. One of the reasons that I like Apollo a lot as a caster is that I feel he doesn't bullshit as much as most. It's quite refreshing.
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On July 10 2013 01:51 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right? I believe they have 15 range with extra damage against the colossi, so that's good. As for the oracle part, it's twice the gas of an observer and 3 supply to the observer's 1. Plus the vision's temporary. Also, it takes building time from your stargate while your robo is idle. Doesn't seem quite as practical.
I just thought that you may be able to snipe collossi without even engaging an army.
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On July 10 2013 01:52 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:51 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 01:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right? I believe they have 15 range with extra damage against the colossi, so that's good. As for the oracle part, it's twice the gas of an observer and 3 supply to the observer's 1. Plus the vision's temporary. Also, it takes building time from your stargate while your robo is idle. Doesn't seem quite as practical. I just thought that you may be able to snipe collossi without even engaging an army.
Of course, you put a timer on your opponent to force him to attack. I was merely pointing out that observers are probably a better option than the oracle.
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On July 10 2013 01:53 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 01:52 Wildmoon wrote:On July 10 2013 01:51 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 01:47 Wildmoon wrote:
Does it work ok if you make 1 oracle just to use revelation for your tempests to snipe collossi? Tempest could shoot pretty far from its sight right? I believe they have 15 range with extra damage against the colossi, so that's good. As for the oracle part, it's twice the gas of an observer and 3 supply to the observer's 1. Plus the vision's temporary. Also, it takes building time from your stargate while your robo is idle. Doesn't seem quite as practical. I just thought that you may be able to snipe collossi without even engaging an army. Of course, you put a timer on your opponent to force him to attack. I was merely pointing out that observers are probably a better option than the oracle.
but most of the time protoss don't let their opponent's observer fly above their army.
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Apollo with the sickest sound effects here.
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On July 10 2013 01:55 StarVe wrote:
Apollo with the sickest sound effects here.
I wonder if he held it up to his mic or something because that sounded incredible.
EDIT: More banes? I don't think he can break this.
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On July 10 2013 01:55 StarVe wrote:
Apollo with the sickest sound effects here.
RIP Kaelaris notes
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Not sure why Ret didn't just go up the ramp initially. That looked so good until that moment...
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3CC and not serious damage ...
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I hate it so much when Zerg goes Baneling bust while you spawned in such a way that your Reactor is part of the wall.
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When I said it would be bad I obviously ment for Ret (Phew)
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Double bane nest so you can get the famous double bane speed 
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Wow, Ret played that really well. Defended his third really easily and did a lot of harassment on ThorZaIN's third.
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On July 10 2013 02:00 Luolis wrote:Double bane nest so you can get the famous double bane speed
Way inferior to Nerchio's triple Infest pit against YoDa on Ohana imo.
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tzain more stim pls, so ret can win!
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ret should focus the medivacs
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Such a blast to hear Apollo's analysis, always on point.
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Ret's taken big losses to his Muta flock though.
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Thorzain vs Ret, feels like an MLG or a Dreamhack in 2011. Looks a bit like it, too.
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On July 10 2013 02:06 KristofferAG wrote:
Ret's taken big losses to his Muta flock though.
I guess they'd be useful for shutting down drops, but that many isn't going to be that valuable the later this goes. Moonglade likes to get tons of mutas in late game TvZ and I don't think I've seen him win with it. T_T
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Come on Ret. Just hold for the next few minutes and you have this!
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On July 10 2013 02:08 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:06 KristofferAG wrote:
Ret's taken big losses to his Muta flock though. I guess they'd be useful for shutting down drops, but that many isn't going to be that valuable the later this goes. Moonglade likes to get tons of mutas in late game TvZ and I don't think I've seen him win with it. T_T
Yeah, but they'd also be nice for stopping Tzain from retreating by picking up into the medivacs. And he does drop a lot.
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Mhmm, doom drops. That's what causes Kas to lose every game. :D
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Ling run by would be nice to see, if he can spare it.
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On July 10 2013 02:10 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:08 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 02:06 KristofferAG wrote:
Ret's taken big losses to his Muta flock though. I guess they'd be useful for shutting down drops, but that many isn't going to be that valuable the later this goes. Moonglade likes to get tons of mutas in late game TvZ and I don't think I've seen him win with it. T_T Yeah, but they'd also be nice for stopping Tzain from retreating by picking up into the medivacs. And he does drop a lot.
Regardless, giving them away to a missile turret is never a good battle plan.
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And thorzain just gave the game away <.<
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ugh did thorzain just go afk there or something?
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Yes! Yeah Ret! Great game from Ret hanging on there! Is this kick-ass Ret mode?
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Poll: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1?Yes (7) 47% If you have time (5) 33% No (3) 20% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1? (Vote): Yes
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thorzain really not looking very sharp lately, hes just missing his killer instinct somehow
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30 min game, all-in by thorzain standards. Good to see actual drops from him and not going full turtle
nice one still
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On July 10 2013 02:11 hifriend wrote:
ugh did thorzain just go afk there or something?
Kept forgetting to hit b+c to get up that 4th.
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Couldn't a small flock of Corruptors (6 or 7) have made things way easier here for Ret?
Those Medivacs were picking him apart.
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On July 10 2013 02:11 hifriend wrote:
ugh did thorzain just go afk there or something?
He's never been the fastest player, Ret just held on and out multitasked him, Tzain was doing a drop at the top right and wasn't looking at his army.
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wavery game from Ret. needs to defend those drops better
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T.O.P
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On July 10 2013 02:12 Tsubbi wrote:
thorzain really not looking very sharp lately, hes just missing his killer instinct somehow
I think its the girlfriend. lol just kidding.
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On July 10 2013 02:12 KristofferAG wrote:Poll: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1?Yes (7) 47% If you have time (5) 33% No (3) 20% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ret v ThorZaIN Set 1? (Vote): Yes
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wow apollo says: Double gas into factory. 3 secs later 2 gases come down lol sooooo good
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On July 10 2013 02:18 Undead1993 wrote:
wow apollo says: Double gas into factory. 3 secs later 2 gases come down lol sooooo good
Got to know them timings.
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On July 10 2013 02:18 Undead1993 wrote:
wow apollo says: Double gas into factory. 3 secs later 2 gases come down lol sooooo good
Yeah, I still get really impressed with Apollo's analysis. Earlier in Welmu vs. BabyKnight he saw what Welmu scouted and said "he should get a third now" a few seconds before Welmu's third went down.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
USE 'EM WHILE YOU STILL CAN TERRANS!
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drop 6 hellbats on a single queen, wtf is thorzain doing
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Man Ret handled that beautifully.
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Ret is dead, or so I thought....LOL
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Nice defence by Ret!! too bad for Thorzain that he commited it all at the front!
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At this rate thorzain will entirely disappear after the patch.
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On July 10 2013 02:21 tree.hugger wrote:
USE 'EM WHILE YOU STILL CAN TERRANS!
Hahahaha. Then use the Banshee?
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United States97276 Posts
Wow Apollo has the best analysis of any caster imo
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Thorzain's play is lacking so much this days... 6 hellbats vs a queen, had half his army attack a geyer during that fight..
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Wow, I didn't think that defense would have gone as well as it did for Ret. He did a really good job of kiting the hellbats away from the marauders with his roaches.
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1200 minerals for Thorzain
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On July 10 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wow Apollo has the best analysis of any caster imo
I like Wolf better. Except when he's hating on Marineking.
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On July 10 2013 02:23 BlackCompany wrote:
Thorzain's play is lacking so much this days... 6 hellbats vs a queen, had half his army attack a geyer during that fight..
I'm not surprised.
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On July 10 2013 02:24 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wow Apollo has the best analysis of any caster imo I like Wolf better. Except when he's hating on Marineking.
We usually frown upon repeating what we say on Skype in an LR thread.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Half of ThorZaIN's army was busy killing Ret's extractor. If he sent just two hellbats into the mineral line, he might have won the game right there if Ret reacted poorly. I think ThorZaIN confused hellbats for units that can actually fight.
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Ret saving up for ultras? Has a ridiculous gas count.
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On July 10 2013 02:24 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:23 BlackCompany wrote:
Thorzain's play is lacking so much this days... 6 hellbats vs a queen, had half his army attack a geyer during that fight.. I'm not surprised.
Neither am i, but i still had some hopes left :<
Edit: well i guess Ret banking 2k gas and attacking into widow minefield helps though^^
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It's quite funny how much praise the cast gets today for the analysis, while Demuslim complains about it :D.
Benjamin Baker @DeMusliM 14m
I do wish that commentators wouldn't dish out information, that was completely wrong.
I think also think the cast is great.
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Ret please start 3/3 ultra cavern and adrenal glance <.<
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On July 10 2013 02:21 tree.hugger wrote:
USE 'EM WHILE YOU STILL CAN TERRANS!
THE HELLBAT WILL NEVER DIE, BUT RISES AGAIN HARDER AND STRONGER!!
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Ret got overconfident.
Thorzain wasn't ready to roll over.
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On July 10 2013 02:24 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wow Apollo has the best analysis of any caster imo I like Wolf better. Except when he's hating on Marineking.
For me Wolf/Artosis is one of the best, if not the best analytical casting combo.
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I've probably been spoiled by WCS Korea but this series feels very sloppy.
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On July 10 2013 02:07 StarVe wrote:
Thorzain vs Ret, feels like an MLG or a Dreamhack in 2011. Looks a bit like it, too.
Looks like 2012 now.
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On July 10 2013 02:31 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
.......wut the hell
Wut the fungal?!
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lol that was just...
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Thorzain will not win vs infestors. ever.
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Dem fungals.
Wow. Really (pleasantly) surprised to see Ret do so well, haven't heard much of him recently.
EDIT: Thorzain with no splits at all there.
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loool, just zero splits from thorzain at all, guess terrans are no longer used to fungals
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Not defending and running your main army into over a dozen mines isn't the brightest move that is for sure, but he manages to squeak by. Cheering for Welmu.
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Wow! Wow! I didn't think Ret could hold it together there at the end. Glad to be proven wrong. Been so disappointed many times with Zergs in great position only falling apart from not defending drops.
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thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump
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That is what happens when you don't split at all I guess.
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That was bad play from both. >_<
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lol Ultra's damage is insane if you actually get hit.
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On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump
He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse?
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I think ThorZain let Flo play his games. The only explanation.
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pretty sure both Protoss will advance from this group. kinda sucks cause i'd prefer the other two guys
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On July 10 2013 02:31 blacksheepwall wrote:
Dem fungals.
Wow. Really (pleasantly) surprised to see Ret do so well, haven't heard much of him recently.
EDIT: Thorzain with no splits at all there.
Yeah Thorzain seems to split really well against banelings, but never against infestors x.x
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On July 10 2013 02:32 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse?
Previously lol. I'd say it's a pretty natural transgression.
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*Sigh* WCS EU is just so hard for me! Players upon players I don't want to get eliminated
How about this entire group just advance, yes?
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On July 10 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:32 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse? Previously lol. I'd say it's a pretty natural transgression.
I don't quite follow what you're saying. A reference to the EG curse?
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On July 10 2013 02:32 garbanzo wrote:
Wow! Wow! I didn't think Ret could hold it together there at the end. Glad to be proven wrong. Been so disappointed many times with Zergs in great position only falling apart from not defending drops.
Ye, being zerg myself, it's so frustrating to see lot of pros not even trying to defend drops T_T
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Well I'm gonna go drop some zergs after this, and win a whole lot of games.
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On July 10 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:32 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse? Previously lol. I'd say it's a pretty natural transgression.
It's the girlfriend curse.
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On July 10 2013 02:36 Kaleidos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:32 garbanzo wrote:
Wow! Wow! I didn't think Ret could hold it together there at the end. Glad to be proven wrong. Been so disappointed many times with Zergs in great position only falling apart from not defending drops. Ye, being zerg myself, it's so frustrating to see lot of pros not even trying to defend drops T_T
Especially going into the mid and late game when Zergs are building their bank I would love to see more of them drop down some static defense (a la Hyun).
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On July 10 2013 02:36 Kaleidos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:32 garbanzo wrote:
Wow! Wow! I didn't think Ret could hold it together there at the end. Glad to be proven wrong. Been so disappointed many times with Zergs in great position only falling apart from not defending drops. Ye, being zerg myself, it's so frustrating to see lot of pros not even trying to defend drops T_T
It is refreshing to see pure counter attacking work in that situation for Zerg. Seems like 9/10 Terran would be able to hold that off, I thought Tzain would especially with the buildings to mess with Ultra AI.
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Great casting so far from Apollo and Kaelaris!
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Why does no progamer have Joker as an ID? It's brilliant.
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LOL! Now he is forever going to be Welmuuooooo! :p
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Welmu in finnish with Welmus own words: "Sly boy"
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Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/
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On July 10 2013 02:38 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:36 Kaleidos wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 garbanzo wrote:
Wow! Wow! I didn't think Ret could hold it together there at the end. Glad to be proven wrong. Been so disappointed many times with Zergs in great position only falling apart from not defending drops. Ye, being zerg myself, it's so frustrating to see lot of pros not even trying to defend drops T_T It is refreshing to see pure counter attacking work in that situation for Zerg. Seems like 9/10 Terran would be able to hold that off, I thought Tzain would especially with the buildings to mess with Ultra AI.
Yeah, to be fair I think ThorZaIN should have held that with better control. Or at least could have put up a better fight.
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On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/
Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk?
I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 gag videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill?
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Pretty ugly supply block from Ret. At least he's taking a third and not attacking, I suppose.
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On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill?
I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players.
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According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o
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On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players.
LR threads pretty tame these days. The real action is in the early korean tournament LR threads.
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On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o
Google translate failed me hard.
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On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:Google translate failed me hard.
Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho.
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On July 10 2013 02:45 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players. LR threads pretty tame these days. The real action is in the early korean tournament LR threads.
Don't worry, I'm trying to come up with a good way to bait you into a grudgematch.
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On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho.
I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@
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On July 10 2013 02:46 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:45 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players. LR threads pretty tame these days. The real action is in the early korean tournament LR threads. Don't worry, I'm trying to come up with a good way to bait you into a grudgematch.
Just insult MVP. I hear he's a fan.
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"Wel-moved back with these phoenix." -Kaelaris.
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On July 10 2013 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho. I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@
I think the actual word is velmu not welmu.
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On July 10 2013 02:50 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho. I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@ I think the actual word is velmu not welmu.
True that.
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On July 10 2013 02:46 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:45 KristofferAG wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players. LR threads pretty tame these days. The real action is in the early korean tournament LR threads. Don't worry, I'm trying to come up with a good way to bait you into a grudgematch.
Oh I don't get mad. You'll need to find another target for that.
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On July 10 2013 02:50 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho. I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@ I think the actual word is velmu not welmu.
Kiitos ystäväni
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I have no idea how Ret managed to kill that army given the way he attacked it
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On July 10 2013 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:50 BadBinky wrote:On July 10 2013 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho. I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@ I think the actual word is velmu not welmu. Kiitos ystäväni
Such a strong word ;_;
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
2010 called, they want their build back.
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man how often will i see a toss just getting overrun with units. t.t
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Actually edit this out since i dont want 4th ban because of supposed balance whine like last time ^__^
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nice solid WoL style game from Ret
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Who needs WarpGates anyways!
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On July 10 2013 02:37 SinCitta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse? Previously lol. I'd say it's a pretty natural transgression. It's the girlfriend curse.
ThorZain hasn't looked great in a while imo. The girlfriend is just the nail in the coffin for him though. Some players can manage that stuff, others can't.
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On July 10 2013 02:52 BadBinky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:50 BadBinky wrote:On July 10 2013 02:47 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:46 Luolis wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 ThomasjServo wrote:On July 10 2013 02:45 Luolis wrote:
According to dictionary Welmu = Joker :o Google translate failed me hard. Welmu can mean "sneaky guy" or something like that in Finalnd tho. I tried some of the other words they mentioned in the cast as well. Got bupkis, Finnish is tough and I can speak a fair bit of Chinese. @___@ I think the actual word is velmu not welmu. Kiitos ystäväni Such a strong word ;_;
I tried for just,"thank you my friend." Hopefully that was near what I wanted to say.
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Yeah, this is just what happens when you let Ret do what he does best.
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ok Ret being almost through in first place is NOT what i expected from this group :O
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On July 10 2013 02:52 BlackCompany wrote:
I have no idea how Ret managed to kill that army given the way he attacked it
too few sentries, too few FF's
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Casting level is amazing, this is BBC-sports level easily.
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I wonder how the old Seed PvZ style of 3-base Stalker attacks with +3 will fare now with an MSC to back it up.
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Welmu will do a fake third blink allin mark my words
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On July 10 2013 02:54 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:52 BlackCompany wrote:
I have no idea how Ret managed to kill that army given the way he attacked it too few sentries, too few FF's
Probably. Kinda funny that they both kind of played like it was 2011 and now it works because Toss cut Sentries..
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On July 10 2013 02:56 Crownlol wrote:
Casting level is amazing, this is BBC-sports level easily.
Its awesome for sure.
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Kaelaris has this boyish charm.
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On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players.
Such a drama llama.
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On July 10 2013 02:57 freerolll wrote:
Welmu will do a fake third blink allin mark my words
You called it :d
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On July 10 2013 03:02 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players. Such a drama llama.
Not drama, it's a loss of passion
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On July 10 2013 02:57 freerolll wrote:
Welmu will do a fake third blink allin mark my words
trolololololol, how do you know, yo.
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On July 10 2013 03:02 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:44 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 10 2013 02:41 Heartland wrote:
Also, was there really no EG vs TL trashtalk in the game between T-funk and Ret on here? EG-TL has ruined so many things :/ Since when do Thorzain and Ret trash talk? I suppose those old school Thorzain vs. Naniwa TSL3 videos, but aren't Thorzain and Ret both relatively mild-mannered and chill? I mean between fans of EG and TL, not between the players. Such a drama llama.
EG sucks, TL are way better just look at the players and their stats!
Your turn!!!
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On July 10 2013 02:53 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 02:37 SinCitta wrote:On July 10 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Heartland wrote:On July 10 2013 02:32 Killmouse wrote:
thorzain not the same since he joined EG.... i mean wtf ? no splitting or concave at all ... just a clump He's been doing very well previously, but has been in a slump for a while now. Interestingly he mentioned that he and Nani are both prone to deep slumps. Maybe it's a Swedish curse? Previously lol. I'd say it's a pretty natural transgression. It's the girlfriend curse. ThorZain hasn't looked great in a while imo. The girlfriend is just the nail in the coffin for him though. Some players can manage that stuff, others can't.
Actually very few players have managed that kind of stuff. It's quite funny actually. I guess it helps when you've been married as long as Grubby and then there's Snute and a few others, but the vast majority have a hard time managing their time around both. There's a very strong correlation there.
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8gate blink all-in? Mehhhhh.
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Huh. Funky to do it with all these Sentries.
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On July 10 2013 03:05 Heartland wrote:
Huh. Funky to do it with all these Sentries.
how else do you do it? if you have no sentries you die
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On July 10 2013 03:06 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:05 Heartland wrote:
Huh. Funky to do it with all these Sentries. how else do you do it? if you have no sentries you die
Well, I've never seen a Blink-timing with seven sentries before.
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Guardian shield doesn't stack, right? Between the double GS and bad FFs, I think he kind of panicked. Won't matter though.
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as a fellow zerg compatriot, this burns my eyes
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good blink micro from Welmu. tsiitsii no kriidi
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On July 10 2013 03:06 AgentW wrote:
Guardian shield doesn't stack, right? Between the double GS and bad FFs, I think he kind of panicked. Won't matter though.
It stacks. Five sentries = invincible army!
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On July 10 2013 03:06 AgentW wrote:
Guardian shield doesn't stack, right? Between the double GS and bad FFs, I think he kind of panicked. Won't matter though.
Whoa, stacking Guardian shield would be incredible. 6 sentries, now my army is immune to marine dmg.
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On July 10 2013 03:07 StarStruck wrote:Finnish him!
owwwww
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I think lings are vital in stopping that. Lings tank quite well for their cost and obviously are way faster than roaches.. I would feel much better if I was only facing roaches than if I was facing roach/ling.
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Not sure why Ret didn't really have any scouting at all in that game. Basically didn't know what was going to happen until it was right at his doorstep.
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Ah shit, I've been missing THIS group! >_<
EDIT: So of course my internet freezes when I start to load...blaming my ISP.
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Lol, Apollo hates on 4gate so hard ^_^
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On July 10 2013 03:10 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Ah shit, I've been missing THIS group! >_<
EDIT: So of course my internet freezes when I start to load...blaming my ISP.
Big Pond? Isn't that an ISP there?
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If Welmu does elfi 5-gate mass zlot id laugh :D
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On July 10 2013 03:12 Luolis wrote:
If Welmu does elfi 5-gate mass zlot id laugh :D
Laugh then.
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I hope this doesn't work.
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On July 10 2013 03:13 KristofferAG wrote:
I hope this doesn't work.
It will.
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Datta boy. Underdog? please I had Welmu all the way. Boom.
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no spines is...interesting. did ret scout the pylon at the front too late?
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zergs so greedy
need static defense against toss, yo
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What the fuck Ret? Seriously? Why wouldn't you build a spine crawler in that situation?
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should have build a spine
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Yes!!!! Welmu!!!! Rooting so hard for you ever since the qualifiers last year!!!! :D:D:D
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ret gave up too easily? T_T
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always so happy to see underdogs go all the way =)
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Fuck yes! Welmuuuuuu 
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It's a bit sad how Ret and Thorzain have fallen recently.
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On July 10 2013 03:11 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:10 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Ah shit, I've been missing THIS group! >_<
EDIT: So of course my internet freezes when I start to load...blaming my ISP. Big Pond? Isn't that an ISP there?
Haha, yeah, that's Telstra's (they're the main telephone company), but no, I'm on the well thought-of Internode.
Really it's probably more to do with the copper wire either from the exchange to my house or at the exchange. I've heard other people complain about my exchange. That said, my best buddy is at a different exchange in a different suburb and he has similar issues on the same ISP with the same plan.
Oh and not quite frozen actually, just really slow all of a sudden (as in too slow for 240p). Once 4 minutes have passed it'll likely be fine, as that is usually how it goes. -_-¤
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Hahaha, ballsy by Welmu, fuck yeah!
Very surprised Ret didn't build spines.
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whaaaaaaaaaaat. Ret even had perfect information -_-
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Lol build spines and it's gg.
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Maaan, that was lame. You scout that shit and then you don't get a single spine T_T
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Welmu is now officially the new king of Finland.
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On July 10 2013 03:14 sharkie wrote:
always so happy to see underdogs go all the way =)
Just because they say he's an underdog doesn't make it true.
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ret why so greedy scout superallin and no spines nothn
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Grats Welmu.
After the gauntlet of challenger and qualifiers it has been well deserved.
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On July 09 2013 13:29 Luolis wrote:
I expect:
1: Welmu
Called it :D
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Even with a spine I do not think Ret holds that. Better to go banes instead of speed, imo.
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I guess Ret did not watch elfi vs Tefel! :p
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Havent seen a 5 gate in a long time, lelz
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Welmu doing the exact same thing elfi did against Ret on DreamHack Summer 2013. It was the same map and same positions even. Well played. Vod for that elfi vs Ret game.
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On July 10 2013 03:15 Zyzz12 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:14 sharkie wrote:
always so happy to see underdogs go all the way =) Just because they say he's an underdog doesn't make it true.
well he rly is ^^
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On July 10 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Welmu is now officially the new king of Finland.
That's old. You gotta keep up, man.
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On July 10 2013 03:15 Luolis wrote:Called it :D
You weren't the only one huehuehue. Welmu's been on the uppity up for a bit and I'm not Finnish! ;o
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`Wow He is only 19? Great things to come for welmu!
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Ret thought it's a 4 gate that hits with a few stalkers usually and could easily held with mass lings. As far as I know he never checked how many gates were placed down after he saw no 2nd gas.
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On July 10 2013 03:16 Drake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:15 Zyzz12 wrote:On July 10 2013 03:14 sharkie wrote:
always so happy to see underdogs go all the way =) Just because they say he's an underdog doesn't make it true. well he rly is ^^
Nah man. He really wasn't lol.
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If Ret didn't scout it that's one thing, but he knew it was coming. Why didn't he put up spines o_O?
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On July 10 2013 03:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Welmu is now officially the new king of Finland. That's old. You gotta keep up, man.
That's way too demanding of Fusil.
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On July 10 2013 03:16 freerolll wrote:
`Wow He is only 19? Great things to come for welmu!
He was a pretty good Brood War player too. The kid had good skill. I laugh at when people say only. You should have seen him back then when he was our BaBy.
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On July 10 2013 03:18 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Welmu is now officially the new king of Finland. That's old. You gotta keep up, man. That's way too demanding of Fusil.
Says the guy who asked if the patch is out :D
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Sweet, a Welmu interview. His finlish is the real stuff.
Edit: Delayed. :/
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time for Thorzain to get out the SpoonvP
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Babyknight lost vs welmu but looked alot better imo still feel like babyknight is going out in 2nd place
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0 featured players streaming sc2. I don't think I've ever seen this before.
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On July 10 2013 03:25 freerolll wrote:
Babyknight lost vs welmu but looked alot better imo still feel like babyknight is going out in 2nd place
A lot better? Man, he got steamrolled 
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On July 10 2013 03:26 Musicus wrote:
0 featured players streaming sc2. I don't think I've ever seen this before.
wat, thats kind of strange.
Also gogo thorzain, plz stop breaking my heart.
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On July 10 2013 03:27 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:25 freerolll wrote:
Babyknight lost vs welmu but looked alot better imo still feel like babyknight is going out in 2nd place A lot better? Man, he got steamrolled
But welmu played so good that imo Babyknight wasnt well prepared vs welmu sick PvP
I still feel like he will beat thorzain and ret
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"who's gonna get the first blow?... some accuse girlfriends"
lol wat :D
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god I have no idea what happens in PvT anymore. I thought phoenixes were bad...
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On July 10 2013 03:31 packrat386 wrote:
god I have no idea what happens in PvT anymore. I thought phoenixes were bad...
"penix imba" - MC
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On July 10 2013 03:31 packrat386 wrote:
god I have no idea what happens in PvT anymore. I thought phoenixes were bad...
The metagame with Medivac-drops being so common makes Phoenixes very good, actually. They can protect flanks during forward pushes, kill off early mine or Hellbat drops as well as scout and later on tank in Colossus-based armies.
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Sick read from Thorzain despite seeing 3 pylons knowing that a lot of gas was mined and a stargate is quite possible.
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wow, that solid defense by thorzain. So many turrets and bunkers.
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haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
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I forgot who said it, but the counter to phoenixes is scvs since they can only kill a limited number.
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
Congrats!
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
congratz on advancing man. very convincing play.
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
gratz man nice builds today!
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
Good luck with the interview and in the Round of 16!
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
haha, nice to hear that's how it should be, it's a great accomplishment, congrats and looking forward to the interview!
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being able to actually kill medivacs by keeping phenix alive makes pvt look like a completely different matchup, very refreshing to see
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Come on thorzain. So close to killing him there, you can do it.
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On July 10 2013 03:37 Tsubbi wrote:
being able to actually kill medivacs by keeping phenix alive makes pvt look like a completely different matchup, very refreshing to see
Yeah, it made those zealots way more effective than I thought they'd be when BK was pushing Thorzain out of his natural. Without healing, marines are especially terrible.
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So I successfully missed every game AND the interview with the player I was most interested in watching (and listening too, heheh).
Congratulations to me.
EDIT: Did Apollo just say very five (or was it only four) times in the space of a few seconds?
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I don't get how Thorzain can get a 4th base and even to have a chance to win this game when Protoss get this comp.
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On July 10 2013 03:41 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
So I successfully missed every game AND the interview with the player I was most interested in watching (and listening too, heheh).
Congratulations to me.
also nice engagement.
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cmon thorzain, you have the means to deal with this
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On July 10 2013 03:44 Taryssa wrote:
cmon thorzain, you have the means to deal with this
really?
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On July 10 2013 03:41 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:So I successfully missed every game AND the interview with the player I was most interested in watching (and listening too, heheh). Congratulations to me. EDIT: Did Apollo just say very five (or was it only four) times in the space of a few seconds?
If you wish to hear interview with Welmu, stay tuned, due to skype difficulties they did not have it just yet. Maybe after G1 or G2 of Thorzain vs Babyknight.
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I mean the game was over before the fight, sure he won the initial 10 seconds but he needs to beat the second wave which he didn't and while protoss defends he took out Thorzain's eco
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Come on thorzain. you can do it.
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Thorzain doesn't have the econ (scans) to deal with dark templar warp ins.
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This is unwatchable even on 360p for me, lagging every few seconds. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Watching the French stream at 720+ with no hiccups.
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On July 10 2013 03:33 Welmu wrote:
haha oh man so relieved now sweating like hell, gonna do interview after g1 or g2 babyk vs tzain ^^
GJ Bud. We were in your corner.
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On July 10 2013 03:48 Jaxx wrote:
This is unwatchable even on 360p for me, lagging every few seconds. Anyone else experiencing this?
Try this.
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SCV afterhour party on thorzains 4th ^ _ ^
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Apollo and Kaelaris, shame on you, Queen is most displeased by your words.
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On July 10 2013 03:48 Jaxx wrote:
This is unwatchable even on 360p for me, lagging every few seconds. Anyone else experiencing this?
Yes, it's even worse on 360 than on 480, but strangely enough on 720p it's super fluid.
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They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while.
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Come on thorzain, you can win the 2-1.
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On July 10 2013 03:45 Ana_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:41 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:So I successfully missed every game AND the interview with the player I was most interested in watching (and listening too, heheh). Congratulations to me. EDIT: Did Apollo just say very five (or was it only four) times in the space of a few seconds? If you wish to hear interview with Welmu, stay tuned, due to skype difficulties they did not have it just yet. Maybe after G1 or G2 of Thorzain vs Babyknight.
Ah, thanks for that!
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On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while.
don't remind me
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On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while.
No kidding.
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On July 10 2013 03:50 Ariovist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:48 Jaxx wrote:
This is unwatchable even on 360p for me, lagging every few seconds. Anyone else experiencing this? Yes, it's even worse on 360 than on 480, but strangely enough on 720p it's super fluid.
tried 720+, 480p, 360p and 240p.
then i wanted to post and whine about twitchlag.
then i read your post, changed to 720p and have no lag. <3
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For the ones that have lag, watching through vlc really helps.
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On July 10 2013 03:52 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while. No kidding.
EG curse or GF slump?
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On July 10 2013 03:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:52 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while. No kidding. EG curse or GF slump?
Polt paid Mvp to cast some black magic on him after Thorzain beat Polt at Dreamhack
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Also huuuuge lags for the english Stream of WCS at any quality. German Stream no lag at all.....
really dissapointed in thorzain so far
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On July 10 2013 03:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:52 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while. No kidding. EG curse or GF slump?
I think the red dot a the peak of the chart speaks for itself.
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On July 10 2013 03:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 03:56 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 10 2013 03:52 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
They're just making the realization that the Spooner hasn't done very much in a while. No kidding. EG curse or GF slump? Polt paid Mvp to cast some black magic on him after Thorzain beat Polt at Dreamhack
I'm torn between my love of Mvp and my love of thorzain...
Also where the fuck are those medivacs.
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stalker died after it dodged away from a bullet?
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Pretty decent blinks from BK.
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On July 10 2013 04:00 75 wrote:
stalker died after it dodged away from a bullet?
blink stalkers are strange creatures.
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Stim and medivacs done, you better get out Babyknight.
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yeah, just wait it out Thorzain...
edit: Jeez, he is really waiting it out.
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Why am I watching so much double twilight from protoss's today?
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I guess its double tech day today, apparently :p
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Thorzain needs to find a way to take down that 3rd because protoss is going to grab a 4th real soon.
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Come on Thorzain, you used to be the master of the lategame. What happened?
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looks like there's a new meta evolving where getting two of the same tech building is somehow better than getting one
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I'm still sad that SC2 remains so reliant on deathballs.
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Going lategame vs Toss is such a gamble TT
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and everybody loses everything. please don't lose to dt's again...
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Babyknight entangled himself in his own hallucinations :D
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throw here? what....is going on....
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hahaha i love when Apollo's voice cracks when he gets excited
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Not even Inca understands that move.
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WTF made you think that was a good idea.
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Babyknight trying to go full foreigner here. He is still leading though.
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Please dont go full foreigner.
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K those 7 dts are top 10 fail worthy.
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Babyknight trying to spoon Tzain.
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On July 10 2013 04:10 gedatsu wrote:
Babyknight trying to spoon Tzain.
you have to win with spoon against t-zain
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lmao did Thorzain just spend like 10 seconds worth of actions on killing 1 zealot with 1 marauder? :D
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Spoon Terran getting spooned.
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Jesus, what a horrible game.
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Wel its hard to win if your opponent is 2 bases up, even though Thorzain held the maxed attack pretty nice, he took his 4th wayyyyyyy to late
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hots-thorzain pretty underwhelming
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cmon Ret bring this home now
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Thorzain
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terrible play from tzain today :/
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On July 10 2013 04:13 alypse wrote:
Jesus, what a horrible game.
dat sexy blinkmicro.
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goddamn it Thorzain =/
i hope he'll get it together at some point
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hahaha this kaelaris face after he said thorzain is eliminated from challenger league :D:D
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good thing ESL invited korean terrans, the euro ones are so uninspiring
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Thorzain with the Flo curse.
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That game was really good up until the stalker harass stopped and then it was just bad. Bad play from both especially Babyknight. Thankfully he worked himself into a situation where he basically couldn't lose.
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On July 10 2013 04:14 vult wrote:
Thorzain with the Flo curse.
Girl + EG curse, Geoff couln't handle it, ThorZain can't handle it.
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On July 10 2013 04:15 CruelZeratul wrote:Girl + EG curse, Geoff couln't handle it, ThorZain can't handle it.
Couldn't handle and stopped caring are different lol :D
Well, not that they stopped caring. But GF's have some remarkable ways to get you to stop playing games so much
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On July 10 2013 04:14 arterian wrote:
That game was really good up until the stalker harass stopped and then it was just bad. Bad play from both especially Babyknight. Thankfully he worked himself into a situation where he basically couldn't lose.
though he did try his best
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did esl trademark that "next match coming ab soon"?
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Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
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Count welmu lol!
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On July 10 2013 04:15 CruelZeratul wrote:Girl + EG curse, Geoff couln't handle it, ThorZain can't handle it.
Geoff's been with Anna forever. Long before EG.
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On July 10 2013 04:19 75 wrote:
did esl trademark that "next match coming ab soon"?
the joke is based on Soon(TM) which is commonly applied to blizzard.
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On July 10 2013 04:19 75 wrote:
did esl trademark that "next match coming ab soon"?
Soon™
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Apollo calling all the missed shots as far as who the favourites were. ;D
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Pretty sure that's elfi talking.
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On July 10 2013 04:22 JazVM wrote:
Is Thorzain to retire?
Unlikely as EG would have renewed his contract just a couple months ago.
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that accent is so awesome
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What is Apollo on? The majority expected Welmu to advance. Polls don't lie.
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On July 10 2013 04:22 JazVM wrote:
Is Thorzain to retire?
pls no. He's my first SC2 love.
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On July 10 2013 04:23 Musicus wrote:
Pretty sure that's elfi talking.
Elfi is much harder to understand.
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On July 10 2013 04:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
don't think so? could be wrong tho....don't even know if he's still dating Jessica after that Slayers fiasco
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I love the Finnish accent in English.
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Welmu's accent is perfect.
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Welmu saying "Well" a lot.
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Hah, Welmu is so nervous it's endearing lol.
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Welmu is the new kid on the block.
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On July 10 2013 04:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:
What is Apollo on? The majority expected Welmu to advance. Polls don't lie.
Gotta build those storylines.
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lol dat finnish accent.im so proud.
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Apollo smiling like an old lady, hah.
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On July 10 2013 04:23 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
don't think so? could be wrong tho....don't even know if he's still dating Jessica after that Slayers fiasco
 I thought they were married
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wow that question really caught him off guard haha
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On July 10 2013 04:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:23 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On July 10 2013 04:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
don't think so? could be wrong tho....don't even know if he's still dating Jessica after that Slayers fiasco I thought they were married
He gave her a black eye and bit off her ear, I hear.
EDIT: Sorry, wrong Boxer apparently, nvm.
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On July 10 2013 04:26 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On July 10 2013 04:23 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On July 10 2013 04:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
don't think so? could be wrong tho....don't even know if he's still dating Jessica after that Slayers fiasco I thought they were married He gave her a black eye and bit off her ear, I hear. EDIT: Sorry, wrong Boxer apparently, nvm.
How many Boxers do you know?
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On July 10 2013 04:26 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:25 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On July 10 2013 04:23 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On July 10 2013 04:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
Didn't Boxer have a girlfriend in his prime?
don't think so? could be wrong tho....don't even know if he's still dating Jessica after that Slayers fiasco I thought they were married He gave her a black eye and bit off her ear, I hear. EDIT: Sorry, wrong Boxer apparently, nvm.
I see what you did there...
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Yay PvZ. Hopefully is a good one.
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Good job Welmu. Nice to see someone holding the Finnish SC2 flag up!
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Dat finnish accent. Rrrrrr, I prefer scotts vs englishman coz scotts can spell rr :E
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sneaky sneaky. no probe for you.
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wtf is this babyknight ._.'
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Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man.
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drone so hard. gogo zergs. crush them under the swarm.
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IS IT THE ANYPRO ANTIME????
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On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man.
Move to NA, we have junk food and a less laggy twitch.
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On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man.
did you try that thing that R1CH posted?
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At least people stopped complaining about Protoss players using prismatic alingment vs non armored units :D
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7 gate blink obs, it IS the anypro anytime.
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the lack of creepspread is staggering
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Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch.
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what a surround. I think protoss might just lose here.
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On July 10 2013 04:36 Heinsenzerg wrote:
the lack of creepspread is staggering
doesn't matter, made drones.
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Aww, thorzain. Rooting for him but his form hasn't been great as of late
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On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch.
i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it.
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Hard map for Protoss, Akilon inc.
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blink stalker early game all-in called
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stop playing on NA thorzain SERIOUSLY
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On July 10 2013 04:40 ThomasjServo wrote:
Hard map for Protoss, Akilon inc.
Strike that.
Bel'Shir Vestige.
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On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it.
WCS AM isn't aired yet. Also I don't think its oversaturation, its just this is probably close to the amount that can be pulled in for the early online stages of a large tournament like this.
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On July 10 2013 04:41 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:Strike that. Bel'Shir Vestige.
Also works.
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On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it.
It's aired Monday-Thursday usually I think but its premier division doesn't start until next week
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First time watching SC2 logged to stream in the middle of the game. Is Zerg having +50 supply advantage a normal situation or BabyKnight was already behind when I tuned in?
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babyknight could collect so many freewins if he mixed in forge first openings, you really shouldnt always go gateway expand
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On July 10 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man. did you try that thing that R1CH posted?
Thanks for the hint! I tried it, but it didn't work for now. But I'll give it some more chances if needed.
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On July 10 2013 04:42 wingpawn wrote:
First time watching SC2 logged to stream in the middle of the game. Is Zerg having +50 supply advantage a normal situation or BabyKnight was already behind when I tuned in?
It maybe normal if zerg goes for mass roaches.
BabyKnight was behind from the moment he failed to kill the 3rd.
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Is BK just being weird, indecisive, or mindgames?
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On July 10 2013 04:41 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it. WCS AM isn't aired yet. Also I don't think its oversaturation, its just this is probably close to the amount that can be pulled in for the early online stages of a large tournament like this.
WCS EU Ro32 can do better
Season 1: 40-40-30-41-43-37-57-44
Season 2: 43-47-42-36-33(today)
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Why so stubborn BabyKnight??
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On July 10 2013 04:48 KristofferAG wrote:
Is BK just being weird, indecisive, or mindgames?
I think its just being weird. hes always been kind of a funky player. That said, 600 gas is a lot...
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On July 10 2013 04:42 wingpawn wrote:
First time watching SC2 logged to stream in the middle of the game. Is Zerg having +50 supply advantage a normal situation or BabyKnight was already behind when I tuned in?
Depends on the build, it is not entirely uncommon if zerg goes heavy into low tech aggression.
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On July 10 2013 04:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:41 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it. WCS AM isn't aired yet. Also I don't think its oversaturation, its just this is probably close to the amount that can be pulled in for the early online stages of a large tournament like this. WCS EU Ro32 can do better Season 1: 40-40-30-41-43-37-57-44 Season 2: 43-47-42-36-33(today)
this group arguably has some of the least star power. Thorzain and Ret have been slumping for so long and BabyK and Welmu aren't the most well known.
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Ret...all you had to do was hold
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Few things annoy me as much as units rallied to their death.
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they both deserve to lose
tough game
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On July 10 2013 04:50 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 04:41 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it. WCS AM isn't aired yet. Also I don't think its oversaturation, its just this is probably close to the amount that can be pulled in for the early online stages of a large tournament like this. WCS EU Ro32 can do better Season 1: 40-40-30-41-43-37-57-44 Season 2: 43-47-42-36-33(today) this group arguably has some of the least star power. Thorzain and Ret have been slumping for so long and BabyK and Welmu aren't the most well known.
Just struck me that the 30k dip in season one also had Thorzain and Ret in it. Hmm..
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Croatia1625 Posts
What a joke of force fields
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Haha 700 gas banked and still pushing through.....cool stuff!
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On July 10 2013 04:45 Ameisenmann wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man. did you try that thing that R1CH posted? Thanks for the hint! I tried it, but it didn't work for now. But I'll give it some more chances if needed.
Can someone link me? Searched for it but cant find it
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On July 10 2013 04:50 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Ret...all you had to do was hold
Every time Ret builds a unit and not a drone, something dies deep inside his heart. I can understand his desire to build drones!
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Why is Ret trying to engage? I don't understand why he just doesn't try and defend...
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if bk holds a couple more seconds he might float 1000/1000
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On July 10 2013 04:52 JazVM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:45 Ameisenmann wrote:On July 10 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man. did you try that thing that R1CH posted? Thanks for the hint! I tried it, but it didn't work for now. But I'll give it some more chances if needed. Can someone link me? Searched for it but cant find it
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=420569
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babyk's pvz looks so bad, against everyone else he would have lost. just strange play, like he doesnt know what he is doing there.
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On July 10 2013 04:53 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:52 JazVM wrote:On July 10 2013 04:45 Ameisenmann wrote:On July 10 2013 04:34 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:33 Ameisenmann wrote:
Fucking twich ALWAYS lags. It's so annoying man. did you try that thing that R1CH posted? Thanks for the hint! I tried it, but it didn't work for now. But I'll give it some more chances if needed. Can someone link me? Searched for it but cant find it http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=420569
Thanks a TON! Couldn't think of the blog section to find it.
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Can't decide if this was work of a genius or a mad man :D
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On July 10 2013 04:40 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
blink stalker early game all-in called
lost to this way too many times. Ret my man don't lose G3 or this will haunt you
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"Amazing position"
"Really keeping his dreams alive"
Such hype building.
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Whenever in doubt Ret, JUST DON'T DRONE
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Well, that was a flank gone wrong.
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That was almost BM from Baby.
Waiting so long to finish Ret.
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Croatia1625 Posts
Man, the only worse thing to watch than subpar European players is watching top American players play.
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PvZ map control = win? All I saw was BabyKnight wandering and picking off all attempts of expansion after first won battle.
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On July 10 2013 04:54 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
"Amazing position"
"Really keeping his dreams alive"
Such hype building.
don't know why everyone bashes this. When done well, this is what differentiates good tournaments from bad ones. For example, GSL finals are often tense and interesting based largely on the hype of tastosis, and yet people say that they don't want any of it. Any caster who cast a game like they were giving a live report on TL would be immediately flagged as lacking personality and such.
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On July 10 2013 04:57 Abominous wrote:
Man, the only worse thing to watch than subpar European players is watching top American players play.
wohohooo! glowing barrels :D
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On July 10 2013 04:57 Abominous wrote:
Man, the only worse thing to watch than subpar European players is watching top American players play.
This made me LOL for some reason. A nice twist on an old troll .
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What did apollo mean when he said Babyknight was playing a bad game because he had 700 gas and no tech?
Stockpiling gas after a strong pressure is a normal tactic. You only don't want stockpile gas is you're going for something like a 7 gate (in which case, when your first attack fails, you immediately leave). But when you're not doing an insane all in, you want the options to 1) tech/ups, 2) mass sentry, or 3) just continue your pressure with options 1 and 2 still open for later if your pressure doesn't work out (what BK did).
Anyone else want to explain what he was thinking? I'm a bit curious. Did he interpret the 4 gate (it was 4 by BK, right? I wasn't paying a ton of attention) as a strong all in?
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On July 10 2013 04:58 -_- wrote:
What did apollo mean when he said Babyknight was playing a bad game because he had 700 gas and no tech?
Stockpiling gas after a strong pressure is a normal tactic. You only don't want stockpile gas is you're going for something like a 7 gate (in which case, when your first attack fails, you immediately leave). But when you're not doing an insane all in, you want the options to 1) tech/ups, 2) mass sentry, or 3) just continue your pressure with options 1 and 2 still open for later if your pressure doesn't work out.
Anyone else want to explain what he was thinking? I'm a bit curious. Did he interpret the 4 gate (it was 4 by BK, right?) as a strong all in?
If BabyK wins and gets an interview they should ask about the gas in that game.
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On July 10 2013 04:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:41 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:39 Schelim wrote:On July 10 2013 04:36 pmp10 wrote:
Main stream is barely breaking 20k viewers for most of the cast.
I wonder if it's over-saturation again or just twitch. i do think it's a little stupid WCS KR and WCS EU stream on almost the same days (tuesday/thursday and tuesday/wednesday). not sure when WCS AM is aired cause i don't watch it. WCS AM isn't aired yet. Also I don't think its oversaturation, its just this is probably close to the amount that can be pulled in for the early online stages of a large tournament like this. WCS EU Ro32 can do better Season 1: 40-40-30-41-43-37-57-44 Season 2: 43-47-42-36-33(today)
Pretty interesting that Mvp got really popular when he stopped dominating everything.
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On July 10 2013 04:58 -_- wrote:
What did apollo mean when he said Babyknight was playing a bad game because he had 700 gas and no tech?
Stockpiling gas after a strong pressure is a normal tactic. You only don't want stockpile gas is you're going for something like a 7 gate (in which case, when your first attack fails, you immediately leave). But when you're not doing an insane all in, you want the options to 1) tech/ups, 2) mass sentry, or 3) just continue your pressure with options 1 and 2 still open for later if your pressure doesn't work out.
Anyone else want to explain what he was thinking? I'm a bit curious. Did he interpret the 4 gate (it was 4 by BK, right?) as a strong all in?
if you take the double gas you tech immediately. simple.
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bk floated over 350ish all game...was it good?
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On July 10 2013 04:58 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:54 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
"Amazing position"
"Really keeping his dreams alive"
Such hype building.
don't know why everyone bashes this. When done well, this is what differentiates good tournaments from bad ones. For example, GSL finals are often tense and interesting based largely on the hype of tastosis, and yet people say that they don't want any of it. Any caster who cast a game like they were giving a live report on TL would be immediately flagged as lacking personality and such.
The problem is that it has to be well done. Tastosis has become horrible at that, because every final is the best final they ever had, every third series is one of the best series they've ever seen etc etc
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On July 10 2013 05:00 Heinsenzerg wrote:
bk floated over 350ish all game...was it good?
we like 2 digits, three is a lot!
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On July 10 2013 05:01 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:58 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 04:54 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
"Amazing position"
"Really keeping his dreams alive"
Such hype building.
don't know why everyone bashes this. When done well, this is what differentiates good tournaments from bad ones. For example, GSL finals are often tense and interesting based largely on the hype of tastosis, and yet people say that they don't want any of it. Any caster who cast a game like they were giving a live report on TL would be immediately flagged as lacking personality and such. The problem is that it has to be well done. Tastosis has become horrible at that, because every final is the best final they ever had, every third series is one of the best series they've ever seen etc etc
GSL finals still get everyone raving every time, and most of the time the games aren't that good.
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On July 10 2013 04:58 -_- wrote:
What did apollo mean when he said Babyknight was playing a bad game because he had 700 gas and no tech?
Stockpiling gas after a strong pressure is a normal tactic. You only don't want stockpile gas is you're going for something like a 7 gate (in which case, when your first attack fails, you immediately leave). But when you're not doing an insane all in, you want the options to 1) tech/ups, 2) mass sentry, or 3) just continue your pressure with options 1 and 2 still open for later if your pressure doesn't work out (what BK did).
Anyone else want to explain what he was thinking? I'm a bit curious. Did he interpret the 4 gate (it was 4 by BK, right? I wasn't paying a ton of attention) as a strong all in?
I disagree that this is a normal tactic. Unless you're Zerg, it's never good to be stockpiling that much resources.
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Yes! Make that third pay off!
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after a certain amount of bad a pvz build becomes good again cuz the zerg does the opposite of what he needs to, babyknight is the king of crossing this line
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Norway25712 Posts
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time.
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if babyk holds this, he'll be my new top protoss for a week!
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Just give it up
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Croatia1625 Posts
You'd expect he'd be ready for this after playing Stephano so many times
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On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time.
Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords
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Is Ret playing Protoss in game 3?
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On July 10 2013 04:58 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 04:54 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
"Amazing position"
"Really keeping his dreams alive"
Such hype building.
don't know why everyone bashes this. When done well, this is what differentiates good tournaments from bad ones. For example, GSL finals are often tense and interesting based largely on the hype of tastosis, and yet people say that they don't want any of it. Any caster who cast a game like they were giving a live report on TL would be immediately flagged as lacking personality and such.
No, it was really just the way he said it, it was funny but felt quite over the top to me, that is all.
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On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords
Ahaha he has 24 and is making another!
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ret should have killed the forge, but otherwise that was a sick attack.
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Not a good map to defend a fast third as Protoss. To much greed from BabyK
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On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another!
147/200! Ret's hatred of making overlords is always hilarious to watch.
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Can't believe what I'm watching. Sitting on 1k minerals and no units.
Since when has it become hard to add gates and spam zealots or something.
The level of play seems really odd.
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On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another!
you could clearly see that in this moment he was thinking do i make 19 drones or do i make raoches and lings, and his deciision was the right one it seems!
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Well this is over. Stick to the all ins vs Z
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when babyknight put down the pylon on the lowground i was sure he was smart enough to finally use a cannonrush, then he does the fast 3rd build on the worst possible map for it, man it seems like he just doesnt want to advance -.-
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Ret should work on his creep spread
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On July 10 2013 05:07 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another! you could clearly see that in this moment he was thinking do i make 19 drones or do i make raoches and lings, and his deciision was the right one it seems!
Ret's algorithm:
1) Expand and get ~80 drones.
2) Make overlords to 200 supply.
3) Make units and attack.
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On July 10 2013 05:07 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another! 147/200! Ret's hatred of making overlords is always hilarious to watch.
If you have a bunch of larva and extra minerals, why not? It's that or lings, and since he's making roach-hydra, does it matter much? I'm spitballing here, I have no idea.
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The question is whether BabyKnight can pull an Mvp comeback
Are you behind?
Dark Shrine Turtle on 3 base for 30 minutes.
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Ret tech to Hive man just as insurance
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Babyknight loves to get supply blocked..
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just watched the new GTA5 trailer... looks like i'll be failing all my courses next semester
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On July 10 2013 05:08 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:07 garbanzo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another! 147/200! Ret's hatred of making overlords is always hilarious to watch. If you have a bunch of larva and extra minerals, why not? It's that or lings, and since he's making roach-hydra, does it matter much? I'm spitballing here, I have no idea.
Well, it's definitely Ret's style. It becomes a problem when someone hits a timing while he's spending all his larva on overlords.
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On July 10 2013 05:07 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:06 AgentW wrote:On July 10 2013 05:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:On July 10 2013 05:04 KristofferAG wrote:
What the hell Ret, floating 1,3k for the longest time. Maybe saving up for a batch of overlords Ahaha he has 24 and is making another! 147/200! Ret's hatred of making overlords is always hilarious to watch.
Ret can max out before getting to 100 supply, and that's mostly in drones
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Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)...
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Yay Ret! Congratulations! Way to represent Team Liquid! Woohooo!
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gg wp Ret. Good to see him go through again.
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Good job, Ret. Always nice to see him macro to victory.
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Kill my liquibets, thanks.
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Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground?
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very unexpected, but grats Ret!
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Norway25712 Posts
Congratulations Ret! Totally deserve it! :D
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A bit of an upset there I think. BabyNo
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On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)...
that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
At least I nailed my liquibets.
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Forever shall I hate the (4 base) zerg!
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On July 10 2013 05:12 AgentW wrote:
Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground?
TL writers called babyknight/ret.
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On July 10 2013 05:12 AgentW wrote:
Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground?
TL had BabyKnight instead of Welmu.
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Woohooo, congrats Ret! His sc skills getting close to his table tennis skills again?
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Grats ret! The game was more of a classical long death animation thought ;
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Why am I stuck on an infinately loading add? Anyone else having this problem?
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On July 10 2013 05:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:12 AgentW wrote:
Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground? TL writers called babyknight/ret.
My bad. I'm currently cleaning the egg off my face as I had BK and Thorzain.
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Liquibets all wrong, but it doesn't matter. I'm glad Ret won, makes me a happy Zerg.
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On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match.
It's not like we're watching the Game of Throws as it is, right?
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On July 10 2013 05:12 StarMoon wrote:
Why am I stuck on an infinately loading add? Anyone else having this problem?
Not right now, but it happens to me from time to time. Either it fixes itself and goes away or you can refresh the stream to get rid of it.
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On July 10 2013 05:13 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 10 2013 05:12 AgentW wrote:
Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground? TL writers called babyknight/ret. My bad. I'm currently cleaning the egg off my face as I had BK and Thorzain.
You surely ain't the only one that predicted these two :p
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On July 10 2013 05:13 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 10 2013 05:12 AgentW wrote:
Well I certainly picked this wrong, but didn't TL predict this? Does Apollo just not have his ear to the ground? TL writers called babyknight/ret. My bad. I'm currently cleaning the egg off my face as I had BK and Thorzain.
Same here. Got enough egg for breakfast at least
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Ret fighting! Really happy to see him advance!!!
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On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match.
SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening.
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On July 10 2013 05:15 DeathProfessor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match. SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening.
extended series would finally make sense.
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On July 10 2013 05:15 DeathProfessor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match. SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening.
Well, I think the first thing would be that it would make them really boring. Players will just turtle and bank resources in a lost game.
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So this pretty much confirms that TL Zergs grows stronger by not shaving
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On July 10 2013 05:17 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:15 DeathProfessor wrote:On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match. SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening. extended series would finally make sense.
And sick storylines.
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Meh, I'll miss Nani/Luci tomorrow :/
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On July 10 2013 05:22 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:17 turdburgler wrote:On July 10 2013 05:15 DeathProfessor wrote:On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match. SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening. extended series would finally make sense. And sick storylines.
Imagine preparing the builds with a bank accounted for!
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On July 10 2013 05:27 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 05:22 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On July 10 2013 05:17 turdburgler wrote:On July 10 2013 05:15 DeathProfessor wrote:On July 10 2013 05:12 packrat386 wrote:On July 10 2013 05:11 Abominous wrote:
Someone should explain to BabyKnight that unlike in Ancient Egypt, you're not taking your bank with you in the underworld (challenger league)... that would be hilarious. If you lose in the premier league you get to start with as much money as you had left in your last match. SC2 tournaments would be pretty insane if that were possible, actually I would be really interested to see how it would change the game but yeah it ain't happening. extended series would finally make sense. And sick storylines. Imagine preparing the builds with a bank accounted for!
The bunker bank account would finally become a legit strategy.
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well i dont think anyone had ret picked for coming out of this group, but im happy he did.
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I was really pulling for BabyK there, but it's nice to see Ret find some success again.
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thorzain no
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I feel ThorZaIN's pain all the way from LA
Get your stuff together you know you are 3 times as good as this when you actually play good.
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Very cool to see both Welmu & Ret advance.
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give thorzain some time. he will figure it out.
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On July 10 2013 05:33 turdburgler wrote:
well i dont think anyone had ret picked for coming out of this group, but im happy he did.
Ofcourse I picked Ret. Silly non believers.
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I used to cheer for Thorzain, but there was a tourney (I forget which one) where the map was half-split against a zerg where he had the clear advantage. Instead of capitalizing on that advantage he stretched the game out to something like 1.5 hours just doing stupid shit and never attacking even though there was no way for the Zerg to win. I know you gotta do what you gotta do to win, but that was not the play of a champion, or even a competitor. Good luck in the future Thorzain, but you lost a fan that day.
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