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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 02 2013 09:56 GMT
#641
On July 02 2013 18:54 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:51 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:49 Scarecrow wrote:
Khaldor really undermining his reputation with those tweets. Should just keep the whine to himself.

With how he used to treat wolf in his casts + how he constantly does shit like this + his overly arrogant and insecure nature I honestly thought he'd be booted out of gom by now. Guess not.


oh so thats true nobody actually likes this guy
why they keep him ?


Khaldor does a lot for the community. He does have opinions that aren't necessarily correct or are tainted by bias.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 09:57:32
July 02 2013 09:56 GMT
#642
On July 02 2013 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:50 painkilla wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:48 PVJ wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:40 Dodgin wrote:
I see khaldor complaining about storyline issues because of this format, but I think losing a bit of " storylines " is just fine when we get really good quality games because of the prep time.

We have a storyline with you complaining about everything, OGN does. should be enough!

TOLD.

And really, why does he do this? Seems so unnecessary and uptight behaviour. And I would even argue it creates better storylines since you can't figure out for weeks who's going through and in what position.

I like him as a caster which makes stupid stuff like this even sadder.


A normal sport fan (not some bw nerds) would expect in a group of 4 , round robin format, 2 matchs of the group will be play on the same day. I think the complaint is pretty valid.


the complaint is valid but it sounded like he did not consider the upside of this format over the classic dual tournament format.

then again I won't say that Khaldor did not consider it, only that he did not seem like it.


Again, this isn't about round robin vs Dual tournament. It is about whether we should have only 2 players from 1 group play or have all 4 players play on the same day. If you look at something like the World Cup (round robin), all 4 countries will play their matches (1 match) on the same day.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 09:58:44
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#643
There they are. I'm not disappointed anymore. Fantastic!

Bomber outsmarting himself by not dropping Hellbats.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#644
--- Nuked ---
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#645
lol this matchup really went full retard in HotS
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#646
On July 02 2013 18:55 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:54 Heartland wrote:
Why did all of this turn into an anti-Khaldor-fest? :/


Because he keeps tweeting stupid shit.

No because people can't handle someone having a different opinion than theirs...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1252 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#647
Worst matchup ever.
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#648
On July 02 2013 18:54 Heartland wrote:
Why did all of this turn into an anti-Khaldor-fest? :/


tbh, he kind of brought it himself. While nails that stick out get pounded, I think he should have kept those comments to himself, or do something that's actually productive to change the format if he really truly is concerned about it ruining WCS KR other than coming off as an angry caster that works for GOM. I could talk more but that'll make me a hypocrite

OT: I really hope Bomber bombers it up! Hopefully in the good way.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
July 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#649
seriously what, bomber should've been way ahead with his opening but somehow bbyong still did shitloads of damage with hellbat drops
hell is other people
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#650
On July 02 2013 18:56 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:50 painkilla wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:48 PVJ wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:40 Dodgin wrote:
I see khaldor complaining about storyline issues because of this format, but I think losing a bit of " storylines " is just fine when we get really good quality games because of the prep time.

We have a storyline with you complaining about everything, OGN does. should be enough!

TOLD.

And really, why does he do this? Seems so unnecessary and uptight behaviour. And I would even argue it creates better storylines since you can't figure out for weeks who's going through and in what position.

I like him as a caster which makes stupid stuff like this even sadder.


A normal sport fan (not some bw nerds) would expect in a group of 4 , round robin format, 2 matchs of the group will be play on the same day. I think the complaint is pretty valid.


the complaint is valid but it sounded like he did not consider the upside of this format over the classic dual tournament format.

then again I won't say that Khaldor did not consider it, only that he did not seem like it.


Again, this isn't about round robin vs Dual tournament. It is about whether we should have only 2 players from 1 group play or have all 4 players play on the same day. If you look at something like the World Cup (round robin), all 4 countries will play their matches (1 match) on the same day.


Yep, and that's much better!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#651
Time to eat dinner while this sorry excuse of a game happens.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 09:58:43
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#652
On July 02 2013 18:55 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:44 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:42 Arceus wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Sup with all the qqing?



I don't really see any problems with this Ro16 format.

Khaldor flames everything non-GOM since Ro32 Day 1. I thought he was a decent guy



Yep lol


I simply think that everything OGN has done so far that is connected with WCS is and was a massive mistake. The WCS Finals were an embaressment and the format right now is just ridiculous. This is NOT the OSL. This is WCS Korea. And in WCS three different region use a format that OGN now completely changes because they dont want to "lose face" by adapting the GSL format.

There's not doubt in my mind that in the next season OGN runs they have to adapt to the normal WCS format. You can hate me for my opinion all you want, but from at tournament organizers point (and I'm talking about Blizzard/WCS here, not OGNs past) there's just no sense to the development for WCS Korea this season.


It's less about your opinion and more about how you are expressing it
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 09:58:42
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#653
On July 02 2013 18:57 hifriend wrote:
lol this matchup really went full retard in HotS


It's sad, Bomber looked to have handled everything nicely but then it all just falls apart

edit: still ahead though.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#654
Bbyong hardblocked on supply helps.
The Bomber boy
Latto
Profile Joined April 2011
235 Posts
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#655
TvT used to be one of my favorite matchups but now it's just plain stupid... fuck hellbats seriously
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 09:59:44
July 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#656
On July 02 2013 18:57 hifriend wrote:
lol this matchup really went full retard in HotS

I laughed so hard when tasteless mentioned bomber probably regretted not getting hellbats, because he's right.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
July 02 2013 09:59 GMT
#657
On July 02 2013 18:55 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:44 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:42 Arceus wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Sup with all the qqing?

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351997772351803395

I don't really see any problems with this Ro16 format.

Khaldor flames everything non-GOM since Ro32 Day 1. I thought he was a decent guy

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351999086230114306

Yep lol


I simply think that everything OGN has done so far that is connected with WCS is and was a massive mistake. The WCS Finals were an embaressment and the format right now is just ridiculous. This is NOT the OSL. This is WCS Korea. And in WCS three different region use a format that OGN now completely changes because they dont want to "lose face" by adapting the GSL format.

There's not doubt in my mind that in the next season OGN runs they have to adapt to the normal WCS format. You can hate me for my opinion all you want, but from at tournament organizers point (and I'm talking about Blizzard/WCS here, not OGNs past) there's just no sense to the development for WCS Korea this season.


seriously man, i'm watching starcraft since before you prolly ever heard the game name and you sound pretty ignorant
if it wasn't for this osl format, you wouldn't be living and casting in korea right now
show some respect to real pros you should try emulate rather than shit on since you're so fucking bad at what you're trying to do

thanks.

User was temp banned for this post.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 02 2013 09:59 GMT
#658
I don't share the opinion Khaldor has, but why bash him? He can have whatever opinion he likes to have. He doesn't enjoy the format and he dislikes the production. While I personally do not agree, some points he makes are not blatant bashing. Besides that, he constantly delivers content to the community so I really feel the hate towards him is too much and especially the same thing the people are accusing him off.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 10:00:37
July 02 2013 09:59 GMT
#659
On July 02 2013 18:55 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:44 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:42 Arceus wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Sup with all the qqing?

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351997772351803395

I don't really see any problems with this Ro16 format.

Khaldor flames everything non-GOM since Ro32 Day 1. I thought he was a decent guy

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351999086230114306

Yep lol


I simply think that everything OGN has done so far that is connected with WCS is and was a massive mistake. The WCS Finals were an embaressment and the format right now is just ridiculous. This is NOT the OSL. This is WCS Korea. And in WCS three different region use a format that OGN now completely changes because they dont want to "lose face" by adapting the GSL format.

There's not doubt in my mind that in the next season OGN runs they have to adapt to the normal WCS format. You can hate me for my opinion all you want, but from at tournament organizers point (and I'm talking about Blizzard/WCS here, not OGNs past) there's just no sense to the development for WCS Korea this season.

and the normal wcs format is gsl code s and a? come on dude thats just fucking retarded. its not like gomtv did a particularly good job at representing wcs korea. they just did their usual stuff...code s and code a.

edit: the problem with his opinion is the way he states it and that he is working for the opposing company
FTD
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 02 2013 09:59 GMT
#660
On July 02 2013 18:55 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 18:44 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:42 Arceus wrote:
On July 02 2013 18:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Sup with all the qqing?

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351997772351803395

I don't really see any problems with this Ro16 format.

Khaldor flames everything non-GOM since Ro32 Day 1. I thought he was a decent guy

https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/351999086230114306

Yep lol


I simply think that everything OGN has done so far that is connected with WCS is and was a massive mistake. The WCS Finals were an embaressment and the format right now is just ridiculous. This is NOT the OSL. This is WCS Korea. And in WCS three different region use a format that OGN now completely changes because they dont want to "lose face" by adapting the GSL format.

There's not doubt in my mind that in the next season OGN runs they have to adapt to the normal WCS format. You can hate me for my opinion all you want, but from at tournament organizers point (and I'm talking about Blizzard/WCS here, not OGNs past) there's just no sense to the development for WCS Korea this season.


How does that make the format ridiculous? Why does it matter if the games in a group are spread out over a few days as opposed to all played on one? Who actually cares if it makes for quality games?
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