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When does Naniwa play Jaedong?
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On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote:On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote:On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote:On June 30 2013 15:13 BackSideAttack wrote:On June 30 2013 15:06 LighT. wrote:
Sage beating soO is like the first real upset of the tournament, otherwise they've all gone the way its supposed to go. Polt beating Dear is an upset. that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be.
I dont think Innovation is the only one. Plenty of players like Soulkey, Flash, sOs, Rain have made deep runs in these types of formats. Suggesting they are all capable of winning. It is not like they come to these events and just bomb out in the early rounds.
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On June 30 2013 16:21 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 16:17 Baroninthetree wrote:On June 30 2013 16:09 StarStruck wrote:On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote:On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote:On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote:On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote:On June 30 2013 15:13 BackSideAttack wrote:On June 30 2013 15:06 LighT. wrote:
Sage beating soO is like the first real upset of the tournament, otherwise they've all gone the way its supposed to go. Polt beating Dear is an upset. that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be. You do realize it's been a while since Polt has competed in Korea. I think he would find it as difficult as the rest. Just ask guys like Life and Leenock. I agree that Polt will struggle in Korean WCS. Kepsa players are always favor in these format with their excellent preparing and coaching. But then again, MLG is another story. Just look at Dear, Stats, and Soo. If this was in OSL format, i am sure they'd perform much better. I wouldn't say Dear, Stats and Soo have individual league prowess and that's why when I saw the qualifier results I furrowed my eyebrow. These guys are like you said, more known for their Pro League results than individual accomplishments and even then that's severely limited. To be honest I'm not at all shocked.
Kespa just needs to send out their best player to more foreign tournaments to claim more territories. Its actually amazing that Dear Stats and Soo made out after all. I would say tip top elephant must be save for the OSL.
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On June 30 2013 16:22 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote:On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote:On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote:On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote:On June 30 2013 15:13 BackSideAttack wrote:On June 30 2013 15:06 LighT. wrote:
Sage beating soO is like the first real upset of the tournament, otherwise they've all gone the way its supposed to go. Polt beating Dear is an upset. that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be. I dont think Innovation is the only one. Plenty of players like Soulkey, Flash, sOs, Rain have made deep runs in these types of formats. Suggesting they are all capable of winning. It is not like they come to these events and just bomb out in the early rounds.
It's a typo. My bad. What i mean is innovation is the only one who did it.
I am sure tip top elephants like soulkey flash sos rain have great chance. I really hope kespa send them out more.
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On June 30 2013 16:29 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 16:21 StarStruck wrote:On June 30 2013 16:17 Baroninthetree wrote:On June 30 2013 16:09 StarStruck wrote:On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote:On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote:On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote:On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote:On June 30 2013 15:13 BackSideAttack wrote:On June 30 2013 15:06 LighT. wrote:
Sage beating soO is like the first real upset of the tournament, otherwise they've all gone the way its supposed to go. Polt beating Dear is an upset. that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be. You do realize it's been a while since Polt has competed in Korea. I think he would find it as difficult as the rest. Just ask guys like Life and Leenock. I agree that Polt will struggle in Korean WCS. Kepsa players are always favor in these format with their excellent preparing and coaching. But then again, MLG is another story. Just look at Dear, Stats, and Soo. If this was in OSL format, i am sure they'd perform much better. I wouldn't say Dear, Stats and Soo have individual league prowess and that's why when I saw the qualifier results I furrowed my eyebrow. These guys are like you said, more known for their Pro League results than individual accomplishments and even then that's severely limited. To be honest I'm not at all shocked. Kespa just needs to send out their best player to more foreign tournaments to claim more territories. Its actually amazing that Dear Stats and Soo made out after all. I would say tip top elephant must be save for the OSL.
Stop with the BS already. It's not surprising that all Kespa players qualified for the 3rd day. In fact they still have a very good chance to win the entire tournament. It so stupid for you to make fun of Kespa players after they dominate WCS for a year or so. Rain won tournaments, Roro won tournaments, Innovation won tournaments, Soulkey won tornaments in SC2. What are you talking about? All your arguments made up.
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On June 30 2013 16:04 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 16:02 Bunn wrote:
What matches would you recommend watching from day 2? The entire series of HerO vs HyuN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOXzJyRjak&list=SPn9kCgJGjpyJPXpfsLCr5E5PvZspeMc1V
Thanks, that was good!
Any other recommendations?
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Well, no real upsets... ut props for mlg.. This is just as good as dreamhack, rest up to the players.
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Just watched HerO vs HyuN game 3 , what an amazing ZvP it was, end to end action almost every tactic used by both players. Best ZvP i have seen in years
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On June 30 2013 18:58 monkybone wrote:
Funny how some old achievements are highlighted and others are not. Polt's super-tournament win is there, but QXC's all kill of IM is nowhere mentioned despite his lackluster list of achievements.
maybe because it's not a tournament win
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On June 30 2013 18:58 monkybone wrote:
Funny how some old achievements are highlighted and others are not. Polt's super-tournament win is there, but QXC's all kill of IM is nowhere mentioned despite his lackluster list of achievements. They did mention that on the stream though. I think day9 brought it up.
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What happens if Dear plays Polt again? Does he have to win 2 series in a row against him?
I hope Jaedong can beat Dear, I think he has a good shot at winning the tournament if he does.
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On June 30 2013 19:22 Elroi wrote:
What happens if Dear plays Polt again? Does he have to win 2 series in a row against him?
I hope Jaedong can beat Dear, I think he has a good shot at winning the tournament if he does.
Had QXC beaten Dear, I think JD would've been in the finals. This way he has to play extended series versus Dear, and he's starting 0-2. ((
Good win over Stats and hopefully he beats Naniwa to avenge the dreamhack semifinals loss. I'm sure if he didn't threw that one game vs Nani he would've beaten Leenock in finals!
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On June 30 2013 19:22 Elroi wrote:
What happens if Dear plays Polt again? Does he have to win 2 series in a row against him?
I hope Jaedong can beat Dear, I think he has a good shot at winning the tournament if he does.
dear would play a bo7 against polt but be down 2-0
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On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote:On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote:On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote:On June 30 2013 15:13 BackSideAttack wrote:On June 30 2013 15:06 LighT. wrote:
Sage beating soO is like the first real upset of the tournament, otherwise they've all gone the way its supposed to go. Polt beating Dear is an upset. that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be.
You think that players like Flash, Rain, Soulkey, etc, couldn't win this MLG? Dear isn't exactly a top-tier player, and even in Proleague he hasn't been doing great lately, and Stats has been purely a Proleague player for a long time now. This is also the first time for both of them to play outside of Korea.
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Just watched Polt vs Naniwa... hilarious :D
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