EPTthat's pretty funny.
Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career.
But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism.
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1Dhalism
862 Posts
that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote: that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:32 fezvez wrote: Simple questions : - Will the VODs be free or will there be a paywall? - The double elim format stops at the semifinals. For example, if Polt loses in the semi tomorrow, he will be out for good (losing only one game, as opposed to all the people in the loser bracket). Does he have an advantage like starting 1-0? Vods are free, MLG's are here: http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialMLGSC2/videos and NASL's should be available @ Twitch Polt is two matches away from winning this. How will the games turn out depends on who comes out of the lower bracket. e: well, here is on extended series in the semis: http://i.imgur.com/uImTG7D.png?1 No extended series in the final. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:47 nimdil wrote: I guess he points out that supposedly Polt is stagnating in Texas while Dear is playing in Proleague with best terran on the planet as partner. I also think it was a bit unexpected but more because I wasn't sure how good Polt will be against proleague regulars. its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote: that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. From what i understand, Dear never got a chance against Polt. Polt has always been in high Code S level. He's a little bit shaky in last WCS NA. But overall, a solid Code S player. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:44 1Dhalism wrote: that's pretty funny. Polt've won more BO3s in the last month than Dear during his entire career. But of course, why would you bother thinking about match up when you can just go crazy with fanboyism. It's obvious that Dear plays the vast majority of his games in Proleague as Bo1s, so the use of Bo3s as a point to predict his success against Polt is rather silly in my opinion. I think it's reasonable to have considered Dear a favorite against Polt even though Polt is one of my top 3 favorites, because Dear's shown pretty good performance against top tier opponents in a very tough league. There's no need to bash fellow posters for their opinions. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:02 Bunn wrote: What matches would you recommend watching from day 2? The entire series of HerO vs HyuN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOXzJyRjak&list=SPn9kCgJGjpyJPXpfsLCr5E5PvZspeMc1V | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:59 Baroninthetree wrote: From what i understand, Dear never got a chance against Polt. Polt has always been in high Code S level. He's a little bit shaky in last WCS NA. But overall, a solid Code S player. I wouldn't compare the two timelines. He might have been back then, but the competition is pretty stiff. It's a very flimsy way of grouping players man. As the other guy said Polt definitely has more experience than Dear when it comes to this type of format. It is what it is. No biggie. On June 30 2013 16:05 Aegeis wrote: back from Anaheim, really great day so far and really good games. What were the stream numbers like? *insert random crowd comment* :V You guys never change. If you enjoyed it leave it at that. Let MLG worry about that. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote: its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:06 Baroninthetree wrote: You speak my mind mate. Proleague elephant lost half of their strength in a high density tour like MLG without careful preparing and the help of the coach. In fact, the only elephant who can win a major tour without these kind of preparing is innovation in WCS final. Then again, innovation is absolutely a monster. I'd love to see a game between Polt and innovation. Just to know how good Polt can be. You do realize it's been a while since Polt has competed in Korea. I think he would find it as difficult as the rest. Just ask guys like Life and Leenock. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:02 slowbacontron wrote: It's obvious that Dear plays the vast majority of his games in Proleague as Bo1s, so the use of Bo3s as a point to predict his success against Polt is rather silly in my opinion. I think it's reasonable to have considered Dear a favorite against Polt even though Polt is one of my top 3 favorites, because Dear's shown pretty good performance against top tier opponents in a very tough league. There's no need to bash fellow posters for their opinions. I respect you point of view. But i disagree that Dear would be favor over Polt, as long as its a high density tournament like MLG or DH or IEM. The fact is that Dear's most great performances are only in Proleague. which requires a week of coaching and preparing against one single opponent in one map. My conclusion still remains, Dear never got a chance here. Maybe in Proleague or GSL, but not in MLG. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On June 30 2013 15:56 Black Gun wrote: its actually not that hard to keep your mechanics up on your own if you dedicate maybe 4-6 hours a day to playing the game. you dont need the 10-16 hours proleague players put in it to maintain those mechanics.... kespa players imho shine mostly in games where they can prepare with the help of their coaches and teammates, not so much in game to game lan tournaments. the huge perceived skillgap between proleague players and other non-pl pros actually sizes down substantially when the preparation factor is taken out of the equation. Don't forgot that on average Kespa mechanics are also quite a bit better, especially at the top end. Players like Flash, Innovation, Soulkey, Roro, Rain and yes even SOS have really strong mechanics. If you watched their Fpvod you will notice that they have the same apm as esf players but with a lot less spam and more multitasking and micro. Mechanically, Dear was very strong. He had strong micro, macro, and multitasking but he constantly got outsmarted by Polt who set marine traps to kill the oracles and surprised him with a weird but powerful composition. The problem with Polt is that oftentimes his macro will slip (he pooled around 1-1.5k mins at one point) when he tries to micro and his multitasking is solid but not the best (he doesn't watch both his armies at the same time when he tries to do multi-pronged aggression-if you watched the game you would see he sits in storms quite a bit when attacking multiple places at once). But then again he was never known for his mechanics, but rather for his intelligent play and his bio micro at one point in time (although his micro was pretty much non-existent against Dear) | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:10 ymir233 wrote: It feels as though if the toss doesn't go for a random 2base allin, JD should have this in the bag... I think JD has a lot more to worry about than a 2 base all-in but yes let's continue to generalize. Congrats for getting by Stats, but Jaedong is against the fence. I don't know why you think he's only bad at 2-base all-ins because we've seen so many of his ZvP games go awol which weren't 2 base timings/all-ins. Whatever gets you guys to sleep at night. :V | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:09 StarStruck wrote: You do realize it's been a while since Polt has competed in Korea. I think he would find it as difficult as the rest. Just ask guys like Life and Leenock. I agree that Polt will struggle in Korean WCS. Kepsa players are always favor in these format with their excellent preparing and coaching. But then again, MLG is another story. Just look at Dear, Stats, and Soo. If this was in OSL format, i am sure they'd perform much better. | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On June 30 2013 14:48 GolemMadness wrote: Zerglings are so cheap, but they're so good against immortals?! Such an OP unit Holy shit I want fire-breathing zerglings that can be healed by overlords free of charge. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:12 Baroninthetree wrote: I respect you point of view. But i disagree that Dear would be favor over Polt, as long as its a high density tournament like MLG or DH or IEM. The fact is that Dear's most great performances are only in Proleague. which requires a week of coaching and preparing against one single opponent in one map. My conclusion still remains, Dear never got a chance here. Maybe in Proleague or GSL, but not in MLG. You guys know Dear got his pro gaming license by going through the Courage tournament in BW right? It's not like they're completely blindsided by LANs, but yes Polt definitely has the experience advantage on his side. He's more accustomed to the format as well as travel and the fact he's used to living in the States. Soo/Stats/Dear have barely been outside of Korea so this is all pretty new for them. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2013 16:17 Baroninthetree wrote: I agree that Polt will struggle in Korean WCS. Kepsa players are always favor in these format with their excellent preparing and coaching. But then again, MLG is another story. Just look at Dear, Stats, and Soo. If this was in OSL format, i am sure they'd perform much better. I wouldn't say Dear, Stats and Soo have individual league prowess and that's why when I saw the qualifier results I furrowed my eyebrow. These guys are like you said, more known for their Pro League results than individual accomplishments and even then that's severely limited. To be honest I'm not at all shocked. | ||
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