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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 17:06 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 16:56 Dodgin wrote:
I have instamad tagged as " idiot ", not sure why you guys are replying to him. like 20 of his posts are calling mvp a code b level player. If he is in code B, he is a code B level player, what's wrong about that? If he comes back to WCS Korea next year, he's in code B to qualify. Fanboys just can't bear with the butthurt facts. By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues. What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level.
How about ForGG, who demolished sOs (2nd WCS S1 Finals, WCS KR Premier League Ro4, 2nd best Protoss in Proleague)?
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I give zero credit for anyone who fled Korea, and thats because I loved mvp. He coulda played in the OSL by now. Look at how handsome Yugioh is
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On June 26 2013 17:17 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 17:06 edgeOut wrote:
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If he is in code B, he is a code B level player, what's wrong about that? If he comes back to WCS Korea next year, he's in code B to qualify. Fanboys just can't bear with the butthurt facts.
By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues. What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level. How about ForGG, who demolished sOs (2nd WCS S1 Finals, WCS KR Premier League Ro4, 2nd best Protoss in Proleague)?
All noobs, cleary.
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On June 26 2013 17:17 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:15 Dodgin wrote:On June 26 2013 17:13 LighT. wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 Dodgin wrote:On June 26 2013 17:01 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 16:54 HolyArrow wrote:On June 26 2013 16:44 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 16:43 Dodgin wrote:On June 26 2013 16:41 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 16:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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And who cares about that exactly? These guys aren't competing in WCS AM/EU because "omg Kespa!". Mvp made the semifinals and almost knocked out Innovation, HerO has been great in Proleague going head to head with the best of them, Ryung hasn't really played vs Kespa players much so hard to say. Nestea, MC, MMA, Violet are not at the same level they used to be.
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He was recently summoned in a bloodlusty ritual Of course they left KR because "omg Kespa!" MVP made it to the semifinals by beating up on foreigners and esf players. Hero is around .5 in PL which is good and all, but in AM he can win Championships and go for the big money. I don't blame any of them for doing this you know. Look at code S. Look who advanced. It's mostly Kespa guys. 8-4 so far. I'm not saying that no ESF players will remain in the scene. Guys like Parting for example who are smart enough to switch to SKT will most likely stay. Players who are on Teams like Startale or IM which are run pretty similar to Kepsa teams will have a chance as well. Some people are just darn good and may get deep runs despite being on a inferior Team (Symbol) But overall Kespa teams and players are taking over. Except for Team 8 and CJ, they are pretty bad. Yeah i would put them below Im and Startale right now. But I think Startale and IM would be the only teams capable of even competing in PL and I have strong doubts that startale would do better than Cj or Team 8 Why would IM and ST be the only teams capable of competing in PL when MVP and Axiom-Acer are both ahead of them in the GSTL? Dude. Who are the best players in GSTL right now? Ryung and Vampire(Super) Who are the best players in PL? Rain, Flash, Innovation. Not to take anything away from Ryung and Vampire, but i doubt they are on the same level as Rain flash or innovation. IM and Startale have deep rosters with a lot of talent and could compete. While as Axiom acer is 20-14 in GSTL. which is good but you gotta remember. Ryung is 10-4. the rest of the team is 10-10. In a PL format that means, that you loose games with something like a 4-2 score most of the time. And in the alkill rounds i really doubt that Ryung or Vampire could take out super aces like Flash, Rain, Innovation or Roro I don't think Team MVP would do horribly, they have a large roster, actually I think MVP is better than Startale right now in terms of proleague format. Startale's lineup would probably be something like this Core players: Life Bomber Curious Avenge Supporting players: Sound Golden Hack MVP's Core players: vampire tails nakseo(monster) keen dream Supporting players: drg sniper finale noblesse shine MVP has more options, as well as more protoss. But ST's core is stronger than MVP's ST is basically KT in a nutshell. One godly player: Flash/Life Two crazy good back ups: Bomber/Curious vs Zest/Stats Player on the rise: Crazy hydra/Avenge Used to be good: Hack vs Action Rest: Garbage vs Garbage. I really don't think Startale's core is that much better than MVP's at all, in fact I think It's really weak lately. Bomber is in slump mode again, Life seems to be declining, Curious just got knocked out of OSL 0-2. Avenge is the only one really going strong. I feel like you are overvaluing GSTL results. Let's see if Bomber is in slump mode towmorrow.
When I say Avenge is looking strong I'm mostly referring to his games in challenger/code a where he went on a good run and almost took out flash in R3.
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So Mvp fell to Code B in Korea losing to soo of all people and all of a sudden people are saying he's not Code B? It's hard to get into Code A again just look at those who dropped off today. Okay, he took innovation to 5 but that's all he did. He beat losira forgg and ryung. Meh.
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On June 26 2013 17:18 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:17 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:
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By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues.
What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level. How about ForGG, who demolished sOs (2nd WCS S1 Finals, WCS KR Premier League Ro4, 2nd best Protoss in Proleague)? All noobs, cleary.
ForGG tapped into his elephant powers and showed his final form
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On June 26 2013 17:17 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 17:06 edgeOut wrote:
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If he is in code B, he is a code B level player, what's wrong about that? If he comes back to WCS Korea next year, he's in code B to qualify. Fanboys just can't bear with the butthurt facts.
By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues. What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level. How about ForGG, who demolished sOs (2nd WCS S1 Finals, WCS KR Premier League Ro4, 2nd best Protoss in Proleague)?
Stop debating with that "MVP is a looser" troll.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
jjakji with Kespavacs hahaha
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On June 26 2013 17:17 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 17:06 edgeOut wrote:
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If he is in code B, he is a code B level player, what's wrong about that? If he comes back to WCS Korea next year, he's in code B to qualify. Fanboys just can't bear with the butthurt facts.
By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues. What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level. Proof of that being a bo5 loss to INnoVation with 2-3 (WCS KR Premier Runner Up, WCS Global Champion) ? Great! You really have it figured out.
Until he comes back and qualify for KR challenger league, he's still a dropout from KR challenger league. Plenty of good players stuck in there, he's not alone.
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On June 26 2013 17:19 Kyaaaaa wrote:
So Mvp fell to Code B in Korea losing to soo of all people and all of a sudden people are saying he's not Code B? It's hard to get into Code A again just look at those who dropped off today. Okay, he took innovation to 5 but that's all he did. He beat losira forgg and ryung. Meh.
Ryung's last 9 games
Ryung 1–0 Bomber 1758
2013-06-21 1615 Ryung 1–0 Curious 1917
2013-06-21 1517 Ryung 1–0 Panic 1354
2013-06-21 1615 Ryung 1–0 Life 2107
2013-06-12 1728 Ryung 1–0 LucifroN 1875
2013-06-12 1728 Ryung 1–0 HeRoMaRinE 1337
2013-06-12 1478 Ryung 1–0 MaNa 1556
2013-06-12 1728 Ryung 1–0 LucifroN 1875
2013-06-12 1543 Ryung 1–0 hOpe
meh ?
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jjakji is trying to pull a Flash composition.
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On June 26 2013 17:17 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 17:16 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:14 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:12 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:11 lichter wrote:On June 26 2013 17:10 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 Ysellian wrote:On June 26 2013 17:09 edgeOut wrote:On June 26 2013 17:08 robson1 wrote:On June 26 2013 17:06 edgeOut wrote:
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If he is in code B, he is a code B level player, what's wrong about that? If he comes back to WCS Korea next year, he's in code B to qualify. Fanboys just can't bear with the butthurt facts.
By that logic. Innovation is a Code B level player. Everyone is a code b level player in 2/3 Leagues. What, how is innovation in code B? Innovation would be in the qualifiers if he were to join AM or EU There are no codes in AM and EU. And there is no such thing as "Code B". This is what the community calls the Code A Qualifiers. So with your logic there is no such thing as "Code B level". jokes on you bro OK, MVP is below code A level player. I didn't first call it code B. There's no such thing as Code A and Code S now too, though. Code A is now Challenger League, and Code S is only for GOMTV productions, while OGN call their tournament Starleague. WCS considers them Premier Leagues. OK, Mvp is below WCS KR challenger league level. oh shut up
You are so nice.
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On June 26 2013 17:19 Kyaaaaa wrote:
So Mvp fell to Code B in Korea losing to soo of all people and all of a sudden people are saying he's not Code B? It's hard to get into Code A again just look at those who dropped off today. Okay, he took innovation to 5 but that's all he did. He beat losira forgg and ryung. Meh.
He did fall out during WOL tho, really hard to compare peoples skill level in a new game and that's all that is happening in this thread.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 26 2013 17:19 Kyaaaaa wrote:
So Mvp fell to Code B in Korea losing to soo of all people and all of a sudden people are saying he's not Code B? It's hard to get into Code A again just look at those who dropped off today. Okay, he took innovation to 5 but that's all he did. He beat losira forgg and ryung. Meh.
Apparently Losira beating Life and JangBi is meh
Catzerg so underappreciated 
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Dam. Widow mine + Thor is pretty good vs mutas xD
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On June 26 2013 17:19 Kyaaaaa wrote:
So Mvp fell to Code B in Korea losing to soo of all people and all of a sudden people are saying he's not Code B? It's hard to get into Code A again just look at those who dropped off today. Okay, he took innovation to 5 but that's all he did. He beat losira forgg and ryung. Meh.
Well he is not even trying to get back in code A thanks to Blizzard's system that screwed over all the code B players when it was announced. It's true he fell in code B but how long was that ago? going by recent results seems more logical to determine skill level.
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United States97276 Posts
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Hooray! Let's just hope jjakji won't be knocked out instantly this time around. 
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Yeahhhh Jjakji!
My dark summoning worked! Glad I sacrificed that virgin goat for you.
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EPT
