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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#4661
On June 18 2013 03:00 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 03:00 Pippi wrote:
Life goes through the tourney with a 10-0, just to get knocked out by a 2-1 from Sjow. One could only imagine the rage.

What? Life dropped 2 maps in this tournament already. One to miniraser and one to PiG

10 series.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
June 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#4662
I'm honestly still feeling that afterglow of happiness when I see an underdog topple a massive favourite. I think I will never be the same again.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
June 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#4663
On June 18 2013 03:00 Beyonder wrote:
Is Incontrol dying or


he was sick / lost his voice early on.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4664
I still believe Jinro's GSL run was a bigger upset.

People tend to disregard the advantage of home for e-sports but anyone who watches afk-sports knows the disparity between playing at home vs on the road. Koreans especially, don't travel very well.

What Jinro did to the Koreans in Korea surpasses this.
bisu fanboy
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4665
The only good thing about Life losing early is that I can go to bed now. Tough break for Life, I feel like he wasn't taking it seriously enough, but that could just be me rationalizing his loss
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4666
Terrible terrible damage done to Life's stock as a code S player. I hope he won't be the laughing stock of his team when he goes back to korea. Like ....

"Yo what happened you lost to a foreigner ? Was it Stephano, yeah he's pretty good and ZvZ is volatile, don't be so depressed bro !"

"Well, I lost to ...... SjoW ......" *bursts out in tears

" WAIT WHAT ? WHO ? ....................... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !" "He forgot to plug his mouse !" "We should send Life him to America so he can ladder with ppl his level XD !" "We should make a sticky to help him remember that hotkey for morphing Lair into Hive, he forgot it"

*Entire team rolling on the floor laughing, Life exits and heads over the closest bar to get hammered and forget about his pain*

Poor Life :/ Straight back into dishwasher team after Dreamhack T_T;
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4667
just a strange man.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4668
On June 18 2013 02:59 DoubleB wrote:
wait.. WAIT! ... WAAAAIT!!!!! I turned off the stream after half of game 1 Sjow vs Life... and now I see sjow won?! IS THIS REAL LIFE?


I am always suprised how often this happens to people, or how many posts like this I read, why would you turn of the stream after the first map in a bo3?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4669
On June 18 2013 03:00 Beyonder wrote:
Is Incontrol dying or

Those are reports
Moderator
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4670
On June 18 2013 03:01 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:58 DusTerr wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:52 Pandain wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:49 Musicus wrote:
So what do you guys think?

Poll: Sjow vs Life, biggest upset ever in sc2?

Yes! (97)
 
73%

No! (31)
 
23%

Not an upset. (4)
 
3%

132 total votes

Your vote: Sjow vs Life, biggest upset ever in sc2?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No!
(Vote): Not an upset.




I'm trying to remember how unknown thorzain was at the time of TSL, he was already a bit hyped due to taking out fruitdealer(and slightly because of nony), but he was going against the best player in the world.



Just don't know.

Poll: Biggest upset ever?

Sjow-Life (40)
 
74%

Thorzain-MC (9)
 
17%

Haypro-Nestea/almost MVP (5)
 
9%

54 total votes

Your vote: Biggest upset ever?

(Vote): Thorzain-MC
(Vote): Sjow-Life
(Vote): Haypro-Nestea/almost MVP




I think the difference here is that LIFE is considered not just one of the best players in the world but also probably the best ZvT player in the world. It's been a while, but I feel that MC (durring TSL3) was not considered super strong in PvT.

Second, Thorzain not only was already on a roll before meeting MC. Sjow hasn't really done anything this tournament that made anyone think that he's anything other than a former "occasional online cup winner".

I think this is by far a greater upset than Tfunk>MC (although that's still one of the top 5 series of all time in my book).


How many Life HoTS ZvTs have we seen?

Around 20 maps I guess?
The Bomber boy
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4671
Hyun's laugh there was awesome, I love that him and Stardust are quite confident in English at this point.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4672
sjow beat life????? wut???
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 18:03:39
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4673
On June 18 2013 02:57 jekku wrote:
To be fair I think the problem is ppl overhype Life way too much. If he was on a kespa team he would be good but not great (on second thought he might improve alot cause the crazy practice regiments). I just think Kespa players are pulling away from the esf players.


How can someone who won literally everything in just a few months be overhyped? I mean, the result this Dreamhack are definitely disappointing from him and the last GSL wasn't great (But it WAS the group of death, two of the best players had to drop out). Innovation did lose to rather unknown players as well, it just happens sometimes. And you should really consider one fact: Life's 16, he goes to school beside his SC2 career.
And again: He won almost everything he could possibly win (GSL, Blizzard Cup, Iron Squid, 2x MLG)... someone like him can't possibly be overhyped to be honest.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4674
On June 18 2013 02:56 Caladan wrote:
Also thanks to all producers of Dreamhack. Excellent job!
Really great production, organization, players, audience, staff and tournament!
This is all far superior to most other esports tournaments at the moment (especially looking at current WCS season and MLG...).

Excellent job with the constant technical difficulties, several 1,5hour breaks with maybe a 5minute interview during that and about 200 people there with plenty of empty seats.
why even
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4675
On June 18 2013 03:00 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 03:00 Pippi wrote:
Life goes through the tourney with a 10-0, just to get knocked out by a 2-1 from Sjow. One could only imagine the rage.

What? Life dropped 2 maps in this tournament already. One to miniraser and one to PiG


Ok, I meant 10-0 in sets. I understand your misunderstanding!
Toast and coffe
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4676
StarDust <3
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4677
On June 18 2013 03:02 ChApFoU wrote:
Terrible terrible damage done to Life's stock as a code S player. I hope he won't be the laughing stock of his team when he goes back to korea. Like ....

"Yo what happened you lost to a foreigner ? Was it Stephano, yeah he's pretty good and ZvZ is volatile, don't be so depressed bro !"

"Well, I lost to ...... SjoW ......" *bursts out in tears

" WAIT WHAT ? WHO ? ....................... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !" "He forgot to plug his mouse !" "We should send Life him to America so he can ladder with ppl his level XD !" "We should make a sticky to help him remember that hotkey for morphing Lair into Hive, he forgot it"

*Entire team rolling on the floor laughing, Life exits and heads over the closest bar to get hammered and forget about his pain*

Poor Life :/ Straight back into dishwasher team after Dreamhack T_T;


Nah it'll be more like, Fuck I lost to Sjow.

And Bomber will say, I told you Sjow was legit.
Moderator
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4678
On June 18 2013 03:01 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:59 ZenithM wrote:
Imagine Life vs Sjow in WoL TvZ. How would you rate Sjow's chances of taking a Bo3? :D
How things have changed haha.


Is this a subtle jab at balance?
O.o

You can take it as a subtle jab at current balance or a huge uppercut at WoL's balance. I'm Terran and I like Terran winning, so take your pick ;D
Jonton
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom49 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4679
Stardust is such a great player, I can't wait to see what he can do in this game.
RIP KT_Violet
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
June 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#4680
On June 18 2013 02:54 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 02:48 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:44 vthree wrote:
On June 18 2013 02:41 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
sjow played well but widow mines need a change they are too easy to use for such high reward. A 2nd tier foreigner shouldn't be able to compete with a tier 1 Korean


Just like banelings? Both banelings and widow mines force micro.

When the tier 1 Korean tried to fight 3-3 marines with mutas head on?


banelings require a lot more to use. widow mine is a shift click and set for game. never have to go back there. a bane mine you have to activate. and if you are talking about splitting required vs banes yeah but you can see them coming. widow mines just get left all over beccause they activate themselves


But you can morph 20 banelings at once. Mines once borrowed are stationary while banelings can chase after you on creep. Zergs also have lings to help surround. All Life needed was an overseer to clear the mines but he rushed to tried to finished the game. He also ran in with his lings and banes to Sjow's production with sim city instead of taking out the forth. If it was just mines being OP that made Life lose to Sjow's. Then Life would have a hard time vs any Korean Terran in GSL/OSL.


so going to have an overseer with every spawning group, ever? The mines are too easy to set all over the map. they dont need to move because they target themselves. sjow played well, life played bad, but life still should have cleaned him if not for the efficiency of mines. Ive said mines are too easy to use for their dmg since HOTS release. Just this shows it's some bs when 2nd tier foreigner can even claim a game off a Korean
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