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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#5001
2v2 fungames in the bg?
yo
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#5002
Dat game 2...
Jaedong <3
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#5003
On June 09 2013 14:44 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:32 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
How long from now to finals?



page 251 will die now.

what?


Page 75 day 2. Check it out.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#5004
On June 09 2013 14:43 Vanadium wrote:
"Statistically, they should've both been ducks."



This b stream has easily made the event for me. Doa and monte are decent but when day9 and apollo are there it just becomes amazing
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#5005
On June 09 2013 14:44 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:32 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
How long from now to finals?



page 251 will die now.

what?


This is true. The prophecy will be fulfilled. NUUUU.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5006
On June 09 2013 14:43 samurai80 wrote:
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On June 09 2013 14:38 Assirra wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:36 samurai80 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:23 SHODAN wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:01 Entirety wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:59 Shock710 wrote:
On June 09 2013 13:58 Evangelist wrote:
Best terran in the world is so clearly Mvp it is ridiculous. I don't know how many times the guy has to prove it. He can't even feel his mouse hand clicking anymore and he gave Innovation an absolute pounding.

mvp is great and such a smart player, but not feeling the mouse is a bit over the top lol


It's actually not over the top. Just yesterday in the OGN couch Mvp stated that when he's in the booth with the headset, he can't hear his clicks so he doesn't know if he's actually clicking...

He can't feel his clicks, man.


this is so sad. mvp, what a man


unlike flash apparently his condition cannot be helped by surgery either.


I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months.


its what I've been told.

Unless you are Mvp's doctor himself, how do you know so precisely about how bad his wrists are ? Maybe he actually recovered. It's been like 6 months for him in code B, he would have time for the surgery people were talking about. Or maybe the wrists problem is a urban legend and wasn't even that terrible in the first place...

Yea because he was lying yesterday during the interview. Please don't talk about stuff you clearly are too ignorant for.
The man needs to rely on hearing to know if he double clicks ffs.

What I mean if I have always thought strange that a player constantly says he can't play because his wrists are destroyed, but this doesn't looks like it when he plays. It's like people saying lag to be the reason whey they made a blunder. they may as well be lying, no one knows.

That would be an extremely douchey thing to do, just like accusing someone of making that up without evidence is extremely douchey
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5007
what is this interview ?
whats with all the duck/goose stuff lol
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5008
On June 09 2013 14:44 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:32 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
How long from now to finals?



page 251 will die now.

what?


WCS Finals Day 2 LR thread page 75, died for 10 mins.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44235 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5009
On June 09 2013 14:40 packrat386 wrote:
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On June 09 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:31 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:26 goody153 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:
[quote]
now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL


losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused.

how big of a loser is MKP then Lol?


I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG.


He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all


Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.

even though nobody asked

if i ranked terran players from the top

1. flash
2. innovation
3.mvp or taeje

reasons:

flash has both insane micro and very brilliant in strategies
innovation has well the best micro (i think) but not as good as flash .. because flash is flexible and better in tvt
mvp has well insane decision making and is probably the most flexible of them all and does not crack under pressure even though he has bad micro .. idk about macro though

and taeje is really good .. very flexible


ranked based solely on WoL achievements, your top 2 don't have squat.

As for right now I think that putting flash above INnoVation is pure fanboyism. Flash gets a lot of hype, but outside proleague he hasn't gone the distance yet. Proleague is SUCH a different tournament from individual tournaments that I think his stats there, while impressive, cause people to overestimate his ability.

Putting Flash above Innovation is as far-fetched as putting Innovation above Flash.
They're on the same level...it's really hard to argue otherwise unless you want to make the argument
"The results on WCS KR is what matters and everything else that happened doesnt matter"


I will totally make that argument. GSL/WCS KR are the only tournaments where players get to showcase mechanics, strategy, AND series planning/mental fortitude. Proleague just doesn't really cut it with Bo1s and/or All kill where the players either prep a very particular snipe or just try to be prepped in general to take on all comers. Flash is really good at both of those formats because he has sick mechanics so in a take on all comers scenario hes ahead. I think the fact that Flash has really struggled to make it far in the GSL indicates that he isn't in championship winning form strategically and mentally. Maybe Bogus is a Kong, but Flash doesn't even have that luxury in SC2.


idk man .. i think flash is better than innovation .. they met couple of times and flash has majority of the wins .. and innovation also said flash is better than him on interviews though .. even if innovation said that it is not a reliable source of who is better .. no flamewars intended .. im also no flash fanboy .. i just think hes better
this is a quote
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5010
twitch.tv/ogntest for the korean stream with this 2v2
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5011
Ducks get to chill.

Soulkey is cool.
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5012
On June 09 2013 14:40 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:31 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:26 goody153 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:21 packrat386 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:16 Bagration wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:15 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 Daogin wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:12 StarStruck wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:10 BigFan wrote:
[quote]
now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL


losing in two finals straight makes you the biggest loser ever? I'm confused.

how big of a loser is MKP then Lol?


I don't even consider MKP a loser. O.o He did win a few things back-to-back. albeit MLG.


He is the 3rd most accomplished Terran of WOL after all


Wait so you think the progression is Mvp, MMA, MKP? I don't think so.

even though nobody asked

if i ranked terran players from the top

1. flash
2. innovation
3.mvp or taeje

reasons:

flash has both insane micro and very brilliant in strategies
innovation has well the best micro (i think) but not as good as flash .. because flash is flexible and better in tvt
mvp has well insane decision making and is probably the most flexible of them all and does not crack under pressure even though he has bad micro .. idk about macro though

and taeje is really good .. very flexible


ranked based solely on WoL achievements, your top 2 don't have squat.

As for right now I think that putting flash above INnoVation is pure fanboyism. Flash gets a lot of hype, but outside proleague he hasn't gone the distance yet. Proleague is SUCH a different tournament from individual tournaments that I think his stats there, while impressive, cause people to overestimate his ability.

Putting Flash above Innovation is as far-fetched as putting Innovation above Flash.
They're on the same level...it's really hard to argue otherwise unless you want to make the argument
"The results on WCS KR is what matters and everything else that happened doesnt matter"


I will totally make that argument. GSL/WCS KR are the only tournaments where players get to showcase mechanics, strategy, AND series planning/mental fortitude. Proleague just doesn't really cut it with Bo1s and/or All kill where the players either prep a very particular snipe or just try to be prepped in general to take on all comers. Flash is really good at both of those formats because he has sick mechanics so in a take on all comers scenario hes ahead. I think the fact that Flash has really struggled to make it far in the GSL indicates that he isn't in championship winning form strategically and mentally. Maybe Bogus is a Kong, but Flash doesn't even have that luxury in SC2.

Ok...so how do you explain the MLG tournament?
How in all-kill/bo1 format..not showcasing mechanics and strategy?
Flash has struggled to make it far in the GSL....well I mean....you know how he was knocked out..it wasnt because of a lack of strategy/lacking mental fortitude at all.
I think with the # of tournaments even with the prestige of WCS KR, its wrong to base it off on the performance of one singular tournament.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#5013
On June 09 2013 14:45 Sigh wrote:
what is this interview ?
whats with all the duck/goose stuff lol


It's from the other day.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5014
Is this game in the background being streamed anywhere?
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5015
Why are they talking about gees and ducks? Are they asking this question because they are children? I can't see that question being asked to a grown up professional sportsman.
-,-
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5016
Do not confuse the Seoul-a-key.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:47:03
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5017
On June 09 2013 14:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:44 Wintex wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:32 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
How long from now to finals?



page 251 will die now.

what?


WCS Finals Day 2 LR thread page 75, died for 10 mins.

Yeah i know about that, you failed! :D

soulkey being a badass.
edit: Soulkey and the others are gonna wonder why foreigners are so fascinated with ducks and geese.
The Bomber boy
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5018
I really hope that the next season's final will be in Europe(and made by DreamHack). I mean... Why the hell Korea ? Production is not that great especially for the english stream. There is no crowd... As always. How much people were watching live ? 100, 200 ? And that is your great final. It's about time to realize that Korea is not the best place for SC2 Tournaments.
On top of that stream numbers are bad because it's played in impossible time for Europe.
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5019
Just woke up - Damn that's an impressive result from Mvp. What a sick player.
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
June 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#5020
hm... Day9 and Apollo have the best SC2 players in the world on stage... and they ask about gose or duck???

What a waste... and what an insult to the audience...
Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
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