On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
thanks for clearing that up
Where's ESF qualifiers? Or did they not buy?
KESPA ran this qualifier, not MLG. This is how they decided who they would send to the event.
On June 05 2013 15:14 Shellshock1122 wrote: Here are the full Ro32 and Ro16 with a few names I couldnt find. Thanks to the people pointing out a few so far
Since I don't see Flash/Innovation, I'm guessing that they're already qualified through MLG Winter and will be going. I hope so, because I really want to see Flash (again).
On June 05 2013 13:43 RiceAgainst wrote: Since I don't see Flash/Innovation, I'm guessing that they're already qualified through MLG Winter and will be going. I hope so, because I really want to see Flash (again).
Flash isn't going to MLG because of Asian Indoor & Martial Arts Games. Life gave up his spot for MLG and Flash was the replacement.
On June 05 2013 13:42 iKill[ShocK] wrote: wrong herO on group C?
Yeah CJ herO. TLPD-ize isn't case sensitive I guess :/
Innovation was knocked out by Sacsri 2-1 in the Ro16 Soulkey was knocked out by Labyrinth 2-1 in the Ro32 Fantasy was knocked out by Myungsik 2-0 in the Ro16 Parting was knocked out by Hoejja 2-1 in the Ro32
On June 05 2013 14:09 Clefairy wrote: Innovation was knocked out by Sacsri 2-1 in the Ro16 Soulkey was knocked out by Labyrinth 2-1 in the Ro32 Fantasy was knocked out by Myungsik 2-0 in the Ro16
On June 05 2013 14:11 Dodgin wrote: I don't get it, I thought MLG was an open bracket tournament? What are they playing for, free travel?
It just says they're playing for KeSPA representative spots.
Isn't a Kespa representative spot the same as everyone else's spots though? I was under the impression that there would be no seeding in this tournament or special treatment for certain players.
I have to imagine this is just Kespa being weird and only letting 3 of their players go to MLG when they could easily have bought more player passes.
On June 05 2013 13:43 RiceAgainst wrote: Since I don't see Flash/Innovation, I'm guessing that they're already qualified through MLG Winter and will be going. I hope so, because I really want to see Flash (again).
Flash isn't going to MLG because of Asian Indoor & Martial Arts Games. Life gave up his spot for MLG and Flash was the replacement.
Oh, wow. I really wanted to see Flash. I hope that Bisu goes through so that there's still some players I can look forward to. GO BISU GO!!!
Flash had decided to go to the '2013 Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games'. This means he can't go to MLG Anaheim????
Two events are at the same time.
Flash is the Korean national representative of 2013 Asian Indoor-Martial Arts Games. Life and SoS have decided not to go because there is no prize money. So instead Flash is going. Flash had expressed that he is willing to go even without the prize money. But this event is at the same time with MLG Anaheim. Let's see if Flash is going to not do the national representative and go to MLG to earn points.
Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
lol was it mentioned anywhere that Parting lost to Hoejja 1-2 in the first round? at least that's what I found with the names. Could be translating wrong
also argued unofficial world champ Bear played in the qualifiers so he's still alive. he managed to beat Paralyze in the Ro32 before RorO got his revenge in the Ro16 2-1
I also do not understand this tournament. They're running qualifiers for an open bracket tourney? Makes no sense to me. Innovation and Soulkey can just go if their team sends them.
Only explanation is what others have pointed out that kespa is just controlling who is allowed to go over with this tourney. I don't like that idea though because there's no free will from the players. It's an open bracket! If a player wants to go and his team is willing to pay for it, then he should be allowed to go. There shouldn't be this extra barrier of entry to go with this tournament.
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
On June 05 2013 14:09 Clefairy wrote: Innovation was knocked out by Sacsri 2-1 in the Ro16 Soulkey was knocked out by Labyrinth 2-1 in the Ro32 Fantasy was knocked out by Myungsik 2-0 in the Ro16 Parting was knocked out by Hoejja 2-1 in the Ro32
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
Thanks. I've just been searching the names on liquipedia to find out because I have no idea. Do you by any chance know who either 신동원 or 박근일 is from bracket B? + Show Spoiler [B] +
Ro32 Fantasy bye Kop 1-2 Myungsik Light1-2 Beach Best 2-0 Rudy 신동원 2-0 박근일 Savage 2-0 Piano Stork 2-1 Hanbin Parting 1-2 Hoejja Soulkey 1-2 Labyrinth Shine 2-1 HS Last 0-2 Dark Bbyong 2-0 Penguin Roro bye Paralyze 1-2 Bear Soo 2-0 Miso Classic 2-1 Rare
Ro16 Fantasy 0-2 Myungsik Beach 2-0 Best 신동원 1-2 Savage Stork 2-1 HoeJJa Labyrinth 0-2 Shine Dark 0-2 Bbyong Roro 2-1 Bear soO 2-1 Classic
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
Thanks. I've just been searching the names on liquipedia to find out because I have no idea. Do you by any chance know who either 신동원 or 박근일 is from bracket B?
It is hard to find them now from smartphone when I get to computer I will try to find them.
On June 05 2013 14:55 Canucklehead wrote: I also do not understand this tournament. They're running qualifiers for an open bracket tourney? Makes no sense to me. Innovation and Soulkey can just go if their team sends them.
Only explanation is what others have pointed out that kespa is just controlling who is allowed to go over with this tourney. I don't like that idea though because there's no free will from the players. It's an open bracket! If a player wants to go and his team is willing to pay for it, then he should be allowed to go. There shouldn't be this extra barrier of entry to go with this tournament.
It makes even less sense when you consider that last year SKT sent Rain to MLG Fall by themselves, into the open bracket, outside of the " Kespa " group stage invites.
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
Thanks. I've just been searching the names on liquipedia to find out because I have no idea. Do you by any chance know who either 신동원 or 박근일 is from bracket B? + Show Spoiler [B] +
Ro32 Fantasy bye Kop 1-2 Myungsik Light1-2 Beach Best 2-0 Rudy 신동원 2-0 박근일 Savage 2-0 Piano Stork 2-1 Hanbin Parting 1-2 Hoejja Soulkey 1-2 Labyrinth Shine 2-1 HS Last 0-2 Dark Bbyong 2-0 Penguin Roro bye Paralyze 1-2 Bear Soo 2-0 Miso Classic 2-1 Rare
Ro16 Fantasy 0-2 Myungsik Beach 2-0 Best 신동원 1-2 Savage Stork 2-1 HoeJJa Labyrinth 0-2 Shine Dark 0-2 Bbyong Roro 2-1 Bear soO 2-1 Classic
박근일/SpeeD (previously was on clan MvP SpeeDMvP) 신동원/Hydra
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
Thanks. I've just been searching the names on liquipedia to find out because I have no idea. Do you by any chance know who either 신동원 or 박근일 is from bracket B? + Show Spoiler [B] +
Ro32 Fantasy bye Kop 1-2 Myungsik Light1-2 Beach Best 2-0 Rudy 신동원 2-0 박근일 Savage 2-0 Piano Stork 2-1 Hanbin Parting 1-2 Hoejja Soulkey 1-2 Labyrinth Shine 2-1 HS Last 0-2 Dark Bbyong 2-0 Penguin Roro bye Paralyze 1-2 Bear Soo 2-0 Miso Classic 2-1 Rare
Ro16 Fantasy 0-2 Myungsik Beach 2-0 Best 신동원 1-2 Savage Stork 2-1 HoeJJa Labyrinth 0-2 Shine Dark 0-2 Bbyong Roro 2-1 Bear soO 2-1 Classic
On June 05 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote: Does anyone know who 이제현(삼성전자, P) (lost to TY in round 1) and 이우재(삼성전자, T) (lost to Stats first round) are? Nothing came up on liquipedia when I searched their names. I'm pretty sure I got the rest of the Ro32 right for group A earlier rounds in case people were interested + Show Spoiler [A] +
On June 05 2013 15:03 jellyjello wrote: Currently I'd put Janbi and sOs ahead of Rain in the protoss power ranking.
and no, not even close. as much as i love sos and jangbi rain is much better than both of them atm
LOL Rain is "not" much better than either of them. It's just not possible with the way the Protoss race is designed. It has a very low skill ceiling cap compare to other races, which is also why there doesn't ever appear to be the #1 Protoss player at any given time, which is also why PvP always comes down to 1) build order loss, or 2) Colossus micro.
On June 05 2013 14:55 Canucklehead wrote: I also do not understand this tournament. They're running qualifiers for an open bracket tourney? Makes no sense to me. Innovation and Soulkey can just go if their team sends them.
Only explanation is what others have pointed out that kespa is just controlling who is allowed to go over with this tourney. I don't like that idea though because there's no free will from the players. It's an open bracket! If a player wants to go and his team is willing to pay for it, then he should be allowed to go. There shouldn't be this extra barrier of entry to go with this tournament.
I'm guessing that kespa will be paying for few players to go and this is their way of choosing them.
Thanks Dimano. I'm missing 3 more names 장태민 (lost to ZerO) and is a Samsung Protoss so is that Shark? 김한샘 looks like Woongjin Zerg so maybe Kassia? 박진혁 a zerg
On June 05 2013 14:55 Canucklehead wrote: I also do not understand this tournament. They're running qualifiers for an open bracket tourney? Makes no sense to me. Innovation and Soulkey can just go if their team sends them.
Only explanation is what others have pointed out that kespa is just controlling who is allowed to go over with this tourney. I don't like that idea though because there's no free will from the players. It's an open bracket! If a player wants to go and his team is willing to pay for it, then he should be allowed to go. There shouldn't be this extra barrier of entry to go with this tournament.
I'm guessing that kespa will be paying for few players to go and this is their way of choosing them.
Yeah I understand that. I just wish that if stx wanted to send innovation, he'd be allowed to go. However, all teams are under kespa and they make the rules, so stx wouldn't be allowed to make their own decision about this. I'd like it more if kespa was offering free trips for this tourney, but teams could still choose to send players from their own budget.
On June 05 2013 15:14 Shellshock1122 wrote: Here are the full Ro32 and Ro16 with a few names I couldnt find. Thanks to the people pointing out a few so far
In sc2 the difference in skill is so slim that a qualifier like this becomes a bit of a coin flip. Its a shame that no one of the best players managed to qualify.
Man count me as being disappointed in the results. A chance to have gosu kespa players at mlg and we got 3 underwhelming representatives. We got the WCS AM koreans of Kespa!
On June 05 2013 15:04 ROOTT1 wrote: booooooooo the bracket is in korean, anywho gogo jangbi <3. rain/sos/jangbi top 3 p's
On June 05 2013 15:03 jellyjello wrote: Currently I'd put Janbi and sOs ahead of Rain in the protoss power ranking.
and no, not even close. as much as i love sos and jangbi rain is much better than both of them atm
LOL Rain is "not" much better than either of them. It's just not possible with the way the Protoss race is designed. It has a very low skill ceiling cap compare to other races, which is also why there doesn't ever appear to be the #1 Protoss player at any given time, which is also why PvP always comes down to 1) build order loss, or 2) Colossus micro.
pvp he isnt but pvt pvz he is, thus hes much better than both of them
Kespa teams are crazy deep, so many upsets. Just blows my mind that sacsri could 2-0 Innovation. Cool that Hoejja's ready for the playoffs with a 2-1 of Parting :D
On June 05 2013 14:09 Clefairy wrote: Innovation was knocked out by Sacsri 2-1 in the Ro16 Soulkey was knocked out by Labyrinth 2-1 in the Ro32 Fantasy was knocked out by Myungsik 2-0 in the Ro16 Parting was knocked out by Hoejja 2-1 in the Ro32
you gonna be kidding ... soulkey and inno lost in bo3 vs noobys ?
So what exactly happens now? Are those 3 the only kespa-players to attend Anaheim? What exactly does this qualification mean, since there is an open bracket?
So is there a clear reason why a qualifier was held? I mean, anyone can just sign up and go to MLG (and I believe everyone is seeded equally this time, right?). Is it because Kespa decided only winners of this tournament get let out of their other obligations? Or this is who they pay for flights for? Or is MLG paying for the flights? Or did player passes sell out so quickly people couldn't get them?
can't imagine MLG is thrilled that Rain, Bisu, TY and JangBi all got eliminated so close to/in the finals...instead they get Stats, Dear and soO not saying they're bad players, but they're definitely not draws!
On June 05 2013 21:10 daybreakk wrote: can't imagine MLG is thrilled that Rain, Bisu, TY and JangBi all got eliminated so close to/in the finals...instead they get Stats, Dear and soO not saying they're bad players, but they're definitely not draws!
Innovation 1-2 Sacsri too? Am I interpreting that right? No innovation at MLG?
On June 05 2013 21:02 HellKey wrote: Bisu and individual leagues :|
Personally I thought this was a pretty good run for Bisu. Makes his situation in sc2 look a lot more hopeful. Took down some solid players and Jangbi is no slouch.
On June 05 2013 21:02 HellKey wrote: Bisu and individual leagues :|
Personally I thought this was a pretty good run for Bisu. Makes his situation in sc2 look a lot more hopeful. Took down some solid players and Jangbi is no slouch.
On June 05 2013 21:02 HellKey wrote: Bisu and individual leagues :|
Personally I thought this was a pretty good run for Bisu. Makes his situation in sc2 look a lot more hopeful. Took down some solid players and Jangbi is no slouch.
On June 05 2013 21:02 HellKey wrote: Bisu and individual leagues :|
Personally I thought this was a pretty good run for Bisu. Makes his situation in sc2 look a lot more hopeful. Took down some solid players and Jangbi is no slouch.
On June 05 2013 21:39 Noobity wrote: These results say to me that even the GSL system is incredibly flawed, and we're really not seeing the best games still.
On June 05 2013 21:39 Noobity wrote: These results say to me that even the GSL system is incredibly flawed, and we're really not seeing the best games still.
On June 05 2013 21:39 Noobity wrote: These results say to me that even the GSL system is incredibly flawed, and we're really not seeing the best games still.
Time to grab dem pitchforks gogo.
i wouldn't've minded seeing a huge open season or super tournament again
On June 05 2013 21:39 Noobity wrote: These results say to me that even the GSL system is incredibly flawed, and we're really not seeing the best games still.
Time to grab dem pitchforks gogo.
i wouldn't've minded seeing a huge open season or super tournament again
Super Tourney :DDDDD
But seriously, dafuq did Sacsri do to 2-1 Bogus. Major props, not an easy feat.
On June 05 2013 22:05 hangarninetysix wrote: So only the winners qualify?
Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
On June 05 2013 14:09 Clefairy wrote: Innovation was knocked out by Sacsri 2-1 in the Ro16 Soulkey was knocked out by Labyrinth 2-1 in the Ro32 Fantasy was knocked out by Myungsik 2-0 in the Ro16 Parting was knocked out by Hoejja 2-1 in the Ro32
Quite the upsets right there :l Earlier rounds can be kind of cheesy though..
On June 05 2013 15:14 Shellshock1122 wrote: Here are the full Ro32 and Ro16 with a few names I couldnt find. Thanks to the people pointing out a few so far
On June 05 2013 22:05 hangarninetysix wrote: So only the winners qualify?
Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
I can understand not knowing Dear, but soO's been in Code S before, and it's impossible not to recognize Stats
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
No given reason afaik, but the most likely reason is that Kespa only want to send a limited amount of players.
On June 05 2013 22:05 hangarninetysix wrote: So only the winners qualify?
Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
I can understand not knowing Dear, but soO's been in Code S before, and it's impossible not to recognize Stats
On June 05 2013 22:13 ELlminator1 wrote: Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
On June 05 2013 22:13 ELlminator1 wrote: Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
Stats is one of the best known players o_O
not really, especially when the average sc2 fan hears "kespa player" he will probably thinking of bogus, flash, rain, soulkey well before going "oh stats too"
On June 05 2013 22:05 hangarninetysix wrote: So only the winners qualify?
Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
But that's how you start to give shits. It would get kinda stale if we only watched the same group of players every time. Forever.
On June 05 2013 14:22 Megiddosc wrote: MLG has said over and over that they are reserving spots for pros. It's obvious that they'd reserve some for KeSPA.
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
thanks for clearing that up
Where's ESF qualifiers? Or did they not buy?
KESPA ran this qualifier, not MLG. This is how they decided who they would send to the event.
On June 05 2013 22:13 ELlminator1 wrote: Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
Stats is one of the best known players o_O
not really, especially when the average sc2 fan hears "kespa player" he will probably thinking of bogus, flash, rain, soulkey well before going "oh stats too"
Not Bogus, they think Innovation I think of Killer, Hiya, Lomo, BackHo, Perferman...
On June 05 2013 22:05 hangarninetysix wrote: So only the winners qualify?
Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
But that's how you start to give shits. It would get kinda stale if we only watched the same group of players every time. Forever.
Well, it didn´t work out so great for WCS NA, even though the players were better known, but still no stars.
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
thanks for clearing that up
Where's ESF qualifiers? Or did they not buy?
KESPA ran this qualifier, not MLG. This is how they decided who they would send to the event.
But Kespa or eSF players could still buy regular passes like every other player would, right? At least from your side of things?(Kespa possibly limiting by themselves the amount of players they send out being set aside)
On June 05 2013 22:31 Mambo wrote: Why does kespa get special reserved spots?
KESPA, ESF, and all top global teams were contacted prior to registration opening to gauge interest. We put a portion of passes to the side outside of public sale so that top players had a chance to purchase. This is how we have always operated the open bracket sales process.
thanks for clearing that up
Where's ESF qualifiers? Or did they not buy?
KESPA ran this qualifier, not MLG. This is how they decided who they would send to the event.
I think it's fair enough , as long as MLG is not paying their trips since it is open to everybody.
On June 06 2013 01:08 TBone- wrote: Uh, why was this kespa only qualifier? If so there better be qualifiers for everybody else.
I believe this was an internal thing for kespa They could send a bunch of players if they wanted (it's open, after all), but then decided to send only 3 (or MLG saved only 3 slots for them). Then, they ran a tournament to see who would be the 3 players. The end.
On June 06 2013 01:08 TBone- wrote: Uh, why was this kespa only qualifier? If so there better be qualifiers for everybody else.
I believe this was an internal thing for kespa They could send a bunch of players if they wanted (it's open, after all), but then decided to send only 3 (or MLG saved only 3 slots for them). Then, they ran a tournament to see who would be the 3 players. The end.
On June 05 2013 22:13 ELlminator1 wrote: Not sure. Hope it isn't the case. We got 3 relatively unknown Koreans which will likely make it very far in the tournament but i couldn't give two shits about them.
Stats is one of the best known players o_O
not really, especially when the average sc2 fan hears "kespa player" he will probably thinking of bogus, flash, rain, soulkey well before going "oh stats too"
On June 06 2013 01:08 TBone- wrote: Uh, why was this kespa only qualifier? If so there better be qualifiers for everybody else.
I believe this was an internal thing for kespa They could send a bunch of players if they wanted (it's open, after all), but then decided to send only 3 (or MLG saved only 3 slots for them). Then, they ran a tournament to see who would be the 3 players. The end.
Correct.
So all the other KesPa players who didn't win these qualifiers will not be going to MLG?
So, to summarize, it will be three KeSPA players only that will go to play in the MLG Annaheim Spring Championship open bracket and these three players are Stats, soO, and Dear? Correct?
On June 06 2013 01:08 TBone- wrote: Uh, why was this kespa only qualifier? If so there better be qualifiers for everybody else.
I believe this was an internal thing for kespa They could send a bunch of players if they wanted (it's open, after all), but then decided to send only 3 (or MLG saved only 3 slots for them). Then, they ran a tournament to see who would be the 3 players. The end.
Correct.
So all the other KesPa players who didn't win these qualifiers will not be going to MLG?
Correct. Kespa decided to only send over three players, so that is it.
There is a 128 player bracket and you invited only three players from the whole Kespa ? The level at this MLG will be so low... I don't think I'll be watching :/
On June 06 2013 03:44 NazDreG wrote: There is a 128 player bracket and you invited only three players from the whole Kespa ? The level at this MLG will be so low... I don't think I'll be watching :/
Not MLG´s fault, kespa decided to only send three players, if I understood everything correctly.
Its so sad to see all the top players throw their matches...even flash and life giving up their seeds. The best players just don't have any incentive to go there anymore. MLG will be a crap tourney from now on it seems, it's sad rly
On June 06 2013 05:37 bilivaxyto wrote: Its so sad to see all the top players throw their matches...even flash and life giving up their seeds. The best players just don't have any incentive to go there anymore. MLG will be a crap tourney from now on it seems, it's sad rly
Actually, Life gave up on the tourney flash is going (whatever the name is) to go to MLG Flash only got his seed there because Life gave up
ok 3 spots are reserved for 3 kespa players.but how is other 125 spots? Who can participate in MLG Spring? Anyone who want ? or some qulifiers are held?
I hope the highlight of MLG Anaheim is: "Who in the world is this guy named Stats? And how did he overcome all to become the MLG Champion??" But knowing KT's success in individual leagues...:<..
Wow all the top KesPa players won't be there then... Well actually I guess Stats is a very good player, but not comparable to INnoVation, Soulkey, Flash, or Rain in my opinion. He's on the same level as Zest and them (WHO ALSO AREN'T GOING T___T) Edit: Forgot to mention Bisu is #1
On June 06 2013 05:37 bilivaxyto wrote: Its so sad to see all the top players throw their matches...even flash and life giving up their seeds. The best players just don't have any incentive to go there anymore. MLG will be a crap tourney from now on it seems, it's sad rly
Actually, Life gave up on the tourney flash is going (whatever the name is) to go to MLG Flash only got his seed there because Life gave up
I think Life gave up his spot before he learned MLG would not be inviting him and it would be just an open bracket tournament. As of now it's uncertain whether he's going.
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
On June 06 2013 05:37 bilivaxyto wrote: Its so sad to see all the top players throw their matches...even flash and life giving up their seeds. The best players just don't have any incentive to go there anymore. MLG will be a crap tourney from now on it seems, it's sad rly
They have incentive, it's a matter of personal priority. Flash and Life have opposite priorities.
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
On June 06 2013 08:55 SAFenix wrote: Wow all the top KesPa players won't be there then... Well actually I guess Stats is a very good player, but not comparable to INnoVation, Soulkey, Flash, or Rain in my opinion. He's on the same level as Zest and them (WHO ALSO AREN'T GOING T___T) Edit: Forgot to mention Bisu is #1
That's why he beat Rain because he's not comparable right? Jangbi and Innovation had excuses because they also compete in GSL this week but Rain has no excuses for not performing good. Anyway there were some qualifiers, your boy lost, deal with it.
i wouldn't want to win that qualifier either if it meant traveling halfway across the world to compete for a measly $10k against 127 other people. i question the incentives kespa and MLG provide these players since this event has hardly any hype and barely any prestige left after WCS castrated it.
How about explaining who actually qualified? Is it just the 3 people that won in finals (Stats, soO, Dear)? Why put BISU BISU BISU if he didn't qualify? Or did ro4 people all qualify, which would mean Rain actually qualified?
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
Of course they threw their games. Theres just no point going to MLG for them anymore. Even flash who actually had a seed+paid trip gave it up
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
Of course they threw their games. Theres just no point going to MLG for them anymore. Even flash who actually had a seed+paid trip gave it up
As I just said, if they didn't want to go, they'd just not play. Why would they waste their time playing in the qualifiers just to intentionally lose?
On June 06 2013 10:44 tomastaz wrote: Anyone else feel like the top players just threw this? Is there a reason to not care about mlg? There's still decent prize money...but why?
Nobody threw their games. If they didn't want to play, they could just decline. That being said, first prize is only $5,000 this time, which is less than 4th was last MLG, so it may not be such a high priority now, and these kinds of qualifiers are notorious for being very unpredictable.
Of course they threw their games. Theres just no point going to MLG for them anymore. Even flash who actually had a seed+paid trip gave it up
Flash is one of the few progamers who can pursue career in politics when he's old, congressman/KeSPA chairman view him as one of the flag of e-sports. They want him to participate in the Asian indoor games, the team probably wants him to be there too.
On June 07 2013 11:51 covetousrat wrote: FFs and I thought Bisu won Group C...
Yeah seriously would prefer the OP to remove that. So upsetting to see. On topic, Bisu still unable to win a PvP to save his life. That's too bad.
On June 07 2013 08:03 lysergic wrote: How about explaining who actually qualified? Is it just the 3 people that won in finals (Stats, soO, Dear)? Why put BISU BISU BISU if he didn't qualify? Or did ro4 people all qualify, which would mean Rain actually qualified?
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2013 MLG Spring Championship/KeSPA Qualifiers
