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On June 05 2013 02:46 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 02:27 Darmuth wrote:Okay I missed the drawing but I'm really confused here. When I happened upon the thread I saw the rules in the OP but they make no sense with the results. in particular... 3. 2 more players will be seeded into Group A. Region will be selected by Lottery, and the next rank from the region will be seeded in.
4. Repeat step 3 for groups B ~ D Now this is where it throws me, I am assuming rank has to to where they finished in their respective regions, so if this is how it went, group A by lottery drew NA first, well the next rank in there would have been Revival who finished 2nd, not Alive who finished 3rd/4th, and then EU would have been drawn and then the next rank should have been Stephano who finished 2nd not TLO who finished 5. And this goes on with the groups. At least by how I'm interpreting the rules the first 3 people in each group should be: Group A: Soulkey - Revival - Stephano Group B: Mvp - Ryung - Symbol Group C: HerO - ForGG - sOs Group D: INnoVation - aLive - DIMAGA With RorO - TLO - Alicia - KangHo left to be determined by random draw And in just doing this I see how unbalanced this is giving a huge leg up to later groups, so I have to missing a piece to the puzzle here. So where am I going wrong? Or if someone could just point me to the VOD of the drawing (English casting please) so I can see what happened myself, cause I have to be misinterpreting the rules somehow. They only seeded in the three WCS winners and the 2nd place of host country Korea (Innovation). Everyone else was drawn from pods so that each group had one player from KR, AM, and EU. So for soulkey's group they drew from the AM pod and the EU pod. For the last four players, they were put in one container and drawn randomly for each remaining group spot.
AH so ...
3. 2 more players will be seeded into Group A. Region will be selected by Lottery, and the next rank from the region will be seeded in."
...from the OP was pretty much wrong then. Was random region, and once that was figured out random from within region now see that makes a lot more sense.
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anybody know something about VOD disponibility for this event?
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Group C MY BODY IS READDDDDDY !
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It was just a lottery placement guys, not worth watching VOD of it
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Haha, Korean hell! That should really be the name of it...Atleast for the foreigners ^_^
Cool video! Hope that the foreigners can make us proud! =)
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On June 05 2013 00:50 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 00:07 vandelayindustries wrote:
So I'm a bit confused still—we do need to purchase the premium ticket to get access to any VODs? I asked on GOM's forum yesterday but got no response. I wonder as well. I would like to watch the VOD as the live stream is on at times when I'm at work. This is part of the conclusion of this first season where WCS KR was produced by GOM. I have a year-long premium+ subscription with GOM. Yet I cannot watch anything of the season finals now. I wish Blizzard actually helped out in this regard, as OGN is hard to interact with. Or is Doa around and can help with this?
To come back to this, going by the graphic on this page:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1finals/premiumzone/
I assume the slightly yellow colored boxes signify what's included in a ticket and that all the yearly GSL passes cover the WCS final VOD's too.
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2 of the 3 Protoss in the same group, lame. 
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On June 05 2013 04:19 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 00:50 Proseat wrote:On June 05 2013 00:07 vandelayindustries wrote:
So I'm a bit confused still—we do need to purchase the premium ticket to get access to any VODs? I asked on GOM's forum yesterday but got no response. I wonder as well. I would like to watch the VOD as the live stream is on at times when I'm at work. This is part of the conclusion of this first season where WCS KR was produced by GOM. I have a year-long premium+ subscription with GOM. Yet I cannot watch anything of the season finals now. I wish Blizzard actually helped out in this regard, as OGN is hard to interact with. Or is Doa around and can help with this? To come back to this, going by the graphic on this page: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1finals/premiumzone/I assume the slightly yellow colored boxes signify what's included in a ticket and that all the yearly GSL passes cover the WCS final VOD's too.
Yeah but I'm not sure that the WCS global finals don't count as an Extra Tournament.
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On June 05 2013 04:36 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 04:19 Derez wrote:On June 05 2013 00:50 Proseat wrote:On June 05 2013 00:07 vandelayindustries wrote:
So I'm a bit confused still—we do need to purchase the premium ticket to get access to any VODs? I asked on GOM's forum yesterday but got no response. I wonder as well. I would like to watch the VOD as the live stream is on at times when I'm at work. This is part of the conclusion of this first season where WCS KR was produced by GOM. I have a year-long premium+ subscription with GOM. Yet I cannot watch anything of the season finals now. I wish Blizzard actually helped out in this regard, as OGN is hard to interact with. Or is Doa around and can help with this? To come back to this, going by the graphic on this page: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1finals/premiumzone/I assume the slightly yellow colored boxes signify what's included in a ticket and that all the yearly GSL passes cover the WCS final VOD's too. Yeah but I'm not sure that the WCS global finals don't count as an Extra Tournament.
Ah yes they could play it like that.
Would be insane if Gom screws over yearly pass holders even more after devaluing the pass all year long already.
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hoping that Alive beats Stephano and Hero can beat Symbol so we have a slightly more balanced Ro8
but if Ryung and Mvp can both get out of their group, we can lose Alive to Stephano, that's cool.
Hoping for:
Soulkey, Stephano
Mvp, Ryung
sOs, Hero
Innovation, Roro
But I'm thinking Losira makes it out of group B and Symbol out of C, unfortunately.
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On June 05 2013 04:49 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 04:36 packrat386 wrote:On June 05 2013 04:19 Derez wrote:On June 05 2013 00:50 Proseat wrote:On June 05 2013 00:07 vandelayindustries wrote:
So I'm a bit confused still—we do need to purchase the premium ticket to get access to any VODs? I asked on GOM's forum yesterday but got no response. I wonder as well. I would like to watch the VOD as the live stream is on at times when I'm at work. This is part of the conclusion of this first season where WCS KR was produced by GOM. I have a year-long premium+ subscription with GOM. Yet I cannot watch anything of the season finals now. I wish Blizzard actually helped out in this regard, as OGN is hard to interact with. Or is Doa around and can help with this? To come back to this, going by the graphic on this page: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1finals/premiumzone/I assume the slightly yellow colored boxes signify what's included in a ticket and that all the yearly GSL passes cover the WCS final VOD's too. Yeah but I'm not sure that the WCS global finals don't count as an Extra Tournament. Ah yes they could play it like that. Would be insane if Gom screws over yearly pass holders even more after devauling the pass all year long already.
agreed. i would appreciate my yearly ticket allowing me to watch at least the VODs from the actual GOMTV broadcast for this event.
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On June 05 2013 05:06 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 04:49 Derez wrote:On June 05 2013 04:36 packrat386 wrote:On June 05 2013 04:19 Derez wrote:On June 05 2013 00:50 Proseat wrote:On June 05 2013 00:07 vandelayindustries wrote:
So I'm a bit confused still—we do need to purchase the premium ticket to get access to any VODs? I asked on GOM's forum yesterday but got no response. I wonder as well. I would like to watch the VOD as the live stream is on at times when I'm at work. This is part of the conclusion of this first season where WCS KR was produced by GOM. I have a year-long premium+ subscription with GOM. Yet I cannot watch anything of the season finals now. I wish Blizzard actually helped out in this regard, as OGN is hard to interact with. Or is Doa around and can help with this? To come back to this, going by the graphic on this page: http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1finals/premiumzone/I assume the slightly yellow colored boxes signify what's included in a ticket and that all the yearly GSL passes cover the WCS final VOD's too. Yeah but I'm not sure that the WCS global finals don't count as an Extra Tournament. Ah yes they could play it like that. Would be insane if Gom screws over yearly pass holders even more after devauling the pass all year long already. agreed. i would appreciate my yearly ticket allowing me to watch at least the VODs from the actual GOMTV broadcast for this event.
The season finals are an integral part of WCS hosted by the Korean region as the starter this year. Would be really dumb if it was excluded from the yearly passes.
Can somebody subscribed to their Twitch channel confirm whether they have the VOD there?
http://twitch.tv/wcs_gsl/videos
I'm fairly certain it is here:
http://twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos
But I don't want to subscribe there as well when I already hold a premium+ yearly pass for gomtv.net (as it used to be). If the group selection stream feed from OGN was recorded on GOM's Twitch channel, I really REALLY hope they will also make it available on gomtv.net to their original subscribers.
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poor Dimaga 
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So is this 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3 or 1 plays 2 and 3 plays 4? Or has that not been announced yet
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I hate how the GSL group of death means there's no Life, Parting or Flash in this tournament. WCS is such a mess. Either region lock the shit or give Koreans 12 out of the 16 seeds and bump the GSL prizepool to 4x the other WCS tournies. The current format just robs us of seeing the best players compete against each other while simultaneously stomping on the neck of the entire non-korean scene.
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On June 05 2013 05:43 Ksi wrote:
I hate how the GSL group of death means there's no Life, Parting or Flash in this tournament. WCS is such a mess. Either region lock the shit or give Koreans 12 out of the 16 seeds and bump the GSL prizepool to 4x the other WCS tournies. The current format just robs us of seeing the best players compete against each other while simultaneously stomping on the neck of the entire non-korean scene.
Blame PartinG's ego, he started this.
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On June 05 2013 05:43 Ksi wrote:
I hate how the GSL group of death means there's no Life, Parting or Flash in this tournament. WCS is such a mess. Either region lock the shit or give Koreans 12 out of the 16 seeds and bump the GSL prizepool to 4x the other WCS tournies. The current format just robs us of seeing the best players compete against each other while simultaneously stomping on the neck of the entire non-korean scene.
that's not quite how it works. two people advance from the group, so the group of death actually had nothing to do with Parting not being in this tournament. he did make it to the round of 8, he just lost there and in his 5th/6th place consolation match. i see what you're saying in general though, but i'm not sure either of Flash or Life are significantly stronger than the 6 WCS KR guys that made it, especially not Flash.
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On June 05 2013 05:51 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 05:43 Ksi wrote:
I hate how the GSL group of death means there's no Life, Parting or Flash in this tournament. WCS is such a mess. Either region lock the shit or give Koreans 12 out of the 16 seeds and bump the GSL prizepool to 4x the other WCS tournies. The current format just robs us of seeing the best players compete against each other while simultaneously stomping on the neck of the entire non-korean scene. that's not quite how it works. two people advance from the group, so the group of death actually had nothing to do with Parting not being in this tournament. he did make it to the round of 8, he just lost there and in his 5th/6th place consolation match. i see what you're saying in general though, but i'm not sure either of Flash or Life are significantly stronger than the 6 WCS KR guys that made it, especially not Flash.
on the flipside, Rain who is the best proleague player and probably best Protoss disnt even make it through the gsl ro32. Thats just how it is in tournaments. The best are the guys that make it, not the ones who were good in other tournaments.
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That's what makes the GSL so interesting because practically every round/group stage you will have at least two heavy weights going head to head against one another. I think we need to see more heavy weights facing one another on a more frequent basis to bring up the entertainment factor.
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