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JBright
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UX7mWxb.jpg) by: BisuDagger Saturday, May 18 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_5 ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/3/30/Writers_Icon.png/15px-Writers_Icon.png){kind=icon} ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) twitch.tv | youtube | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/36/Kr.png) youtube![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oBSiY.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LBr19.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L5xSY.png)  Flash <Newkirk Redevelopment Precint> aLive<Akilon Wastes> <Korhal Floating Island> <Naro Station> <Neo Planet S> <Bel'Shir Vestige> <Whirlwind> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall Results] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 18 2013 10:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: how many more losses until EG-TL gets mathematically eliminated? I can't help but feel like they won't get past KT and I think they should be coming close we need Aligulac to figure out the chances of EG-TL getting into the playoffs lol, too bad it doesn't support that | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On May 18 2013 10:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: how many more losses until EG-TL gets mathematically eliminated? I can't help but feel like they won't get past KT and I think they should be coming close Let's see, EG-TL has 11 more matches left I think. So if they win all of them(lol) that would put them at 22-20 which will probably be enough to make the playoffs. If they won 10 out of those 11 then they'd be at 21-21, which might be enough to make it to the playoffs lol. | ||
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Thinasy
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Edit: Nah just kidding, Jaedong Reverse all-killing | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
I got a feelin'... that tonight's gonna be a(n almost) all-kill (into reverse all-kill) night...  Taeja will stop the Flash juggernaught. Come on, Taeja! (but watch, I bet Alive is going to kill Flash and then Hydra will come out and all-kill EG-TL  that would be FPL catastrophe...) | ||
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rj rl
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On May 18 2013 09:46 NovemberstOrm wrote: Someone on EG-TL will ak or reverse ak I FEEL IT. deceived you the force has this time. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
However, I really just want Jaedong to beat Flash in an epic game. The actual match result I do not care as much about. I do not see Flash losing to anyone, though. If he does, it will probably be in a mirror matchup. | ||
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iMrising
United States1099 Posts
On May 18 2013 10:32 Jacmert wrote: (but watch, I bet Alive is going to kill Flash and then Hydra will come out and all-kill EG-TL that would be FPL catastrophe...) Hydra is on CJ entus, not KT Rolster. I doubt Hydra will ever come out on vT however. This is the ultimate, full week of week 5! gl everybody | ||
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NicksonReyes
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+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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StarStruck
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j4vz
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I really llike EG-TL but i also really like Flash, im hoping for an all-kill from Flash. | ||
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TAMinator
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BisuDagger
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by: BisuDagger | ||
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insanet
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On May 18 2013 09:33 The_Templar wrote: Jaedong reverse allkill! I like to play the long odds. LOL, from a KT fan. | ||
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Arceus
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ftI38QGl.jpg) | ||
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WigglingSquid
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On May 18 2013 11:26 Arceus wrote: just remix my old banner for this round with updated players and better font xD + Show Spoiler + I don't think KT's bullets will miss though. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 18 2013 11:26 Arceus wrote: just remix my old banner for this round with updated players and better font xD + Show Spoiler + you didn't like mine? edit: here's a sneak peak at T8 vs Khan ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/92mToOw.jpg) | ||
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Arceus
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fuck Im sniped | ||
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BisuDagger
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sorry I'm trying to theme PL right now with greek gods haha | ||
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BisuDagger
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that will solve the random /url | ||
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Sloke
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Flash < Jaedong Puzzle > Jaedong Puzzle > Taeja Zest > Taeja Zest > JYP | ||
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The_Templar
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Yup. Since I'm a KT fan I believe that it is incredibly likely they will win, therefore Jaedong reverse allkill would be the "long odds". | ||
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Heinsenzerg
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Bagration
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On May 18 2013 11:41 Heinsenzerg wrote: i think alive it´s gonna get mauled, unless some of the tvt volatility swades in his favor You and me both | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On May 18 2013 11:29 BisuDagger wrote: you didn't like mine? edit: here's a sneak peak at T8 vs Khan OMG I had the saddest panda moment ever. I wanted to reply with "YOU HAVE TO SHOP IN JD FOR APHRODITES FACE" But... | ||
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Arceus
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On May 18 2013 11:32 BisuDagger wrote: sorry I'm trying to theme PL right now with greek gods haha I'll admit that I know none of the OP's gods O_O hows about doing Saint Seiya theme instead | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On May 18 2013 11:52 Arceus wrote: I'll admit that I know none of the OP's gods O_O hows about doing Saint Seiya theme instead i know that artemis is the goddess of hunt i think atleast | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 18 2013 11:52 Arceus wrote: I'll admit that I know none of the OP's gods O_O hows about doing Saint Seiya theme instead Maybe round 6, I'm feeling a huge manga theme in the future. On May 18 2013 11:50 Badfatpanda wrote: OMG I had the saddest panda moment ever. I wanted to reply with "YOU HAVE TO SHOP IN JD FOR APHRODITES FACE" But... And yeah that's super sad. I miss him on that team but I thine overall it has helped Team 8 force themselves to become a team and grow talent from within. But JD on the face would have been amazing I agree. side note: EG really lacks team photos, what the hell is up with that *__* | ||
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Proseat
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Come on, EG-TL, take care of Flash and Wooki and win this! | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 11:02 j4vz wrote: I dont think anyone beside Taeja and Jaedong have a chance to take out Flash, its not that Jaedong is that good but he knows how to punish Flash. I really llike EG-TL but i also really like Flash, im hoping for an all-kill from Flash. Thing is aLive is actually decent at TvT. He's more than capable of taking a game off Flash. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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oogieogie
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On May 18 2013 11:57 Za7oX wrote: oh shit 4m till it starts all kill inc | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 12:11 [OGN]Remmy wrote: OMG Jaedong is smiling :3 Maybe he just recalls the days with Flash. The days he used to be Flash's whipping boy?  | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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the must-be tactic in TVT | ||
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stuchiu
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Flash's HPM: 200 Step your game up Alive. | ||
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Laryleprakon
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I hope Flash wins every game with hellbat drops ^_^ | ||
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petered
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tl2212
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i want them to send out ZENIO!!!!!!!! | ||
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Heinsenzerg
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Bagration
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On May 18 2013 12:17 tozi wrote: best players in the world + hellbats = not imba? Flash's micro was pretty good, wouldn't you say? | ||
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rj rl
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On May 18 2013 12:17 Yhamm wrote: TvT on a shitty map with hellbats make really a shitty match :/ really shitty comments don't help anything bro so try not to be a shitty whiner. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:17 tl2212 wrote: tl-eg does not understand their strengths and weaknesses. alive is best TvP i want them to send out ZENIO!!!!!!!! u a little stupid ma friend? | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:17 Laryleprakon wrote: Hellbat/viking new meta! I hope Flash wins every game with hellbat drops ^_^ please no... | ||
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SniXSniPe
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Seriously... I whine about it everytime: I detest hellbats. Kills the beauty of marine/tank vs marine/tank or even just bio vs mech play (WoL style). | ||
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tozi
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plogamer
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On May 18 2013 12:16 Heinsenzerg wrote: tvt drops is the new zvz early lingbane ^ This. It will even out. Here's counting on Taeja to show us something that beats hellbat drops. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Laryleprakon
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Hopefully a bit longer! | ||
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teddyoojo
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On May 18 2013 12:18 hzflank wrote: Terran is so broken in TvT :p u say that jokingly but its true | ||
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Kommander
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Is it a stretch to say that Terran is OP in TvT? :p | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 12:19 Za7oX wrote: shit just got real folks Nah. TaejA cannon fodder? | ||
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WoodLeagueAllStar
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Taeja can prove a lot with this game. Boys been slippin a bit, beat Flash and start flexing your skills dawg!!! | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:18 rj rl wrote: really shitty comments don't help anything bro so try not to be a shitty whiner. oh right, I forgot, Flash is playing so everything is beautiful and so nice and so awesome | ||
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Shellshock
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On May 18 2013 12:20 Kommander wrote: Is it a stretch to say that Terran is OP in TvT? :p MC has been saying it for years | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:19 Raskit wrote: I've been out of the loop for the past month because of exams. Has TvT devolved to hellbat vs hellbat every game? or is it just Flash being Flash? It's not every game but it is common, that map is pretty good for that strat as well. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:19 trinxified wrote: TvT used to be the best matchup ever... Now reduced to Hellbat rubble. Time to join the mirror matchup hell club. PvP and ZvZ welcomes TvT with open arms. :p | ||
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tozi
United States506 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:19 Raskit wrote: I've been out of the loop for the past month because of exams. Has TvT devolved to hellbat vs hellbat every game? or is it just Flash being Flash? What does Flash being Flash mean? anyway, no. TVT is still probably the most entertaining mirror matchup. There has lately been a resurgence in mech so hellbat drops have been coming back (Flash especially likes them because hes so good with them) | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:19 Raskit wrote: I've been out of the loop for the past month because of exams. Has TvT devolved to hellbat vs hellbat every game? or is it just Flash being Flash? There is a lot of hellbat dropping in TvT but they aren't all like that. It was mostly dull due to the giant skill gap between players rather than the game itself. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:17 tl2212 wrote: tl-eg does not understand their strengths and weaknesses. alive is best TvP i want them to send out ZENIO!!!!!!!! KT's been leading with Stats/Wooki a lot so Alive was a decent pick | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:21 Kommander wrote: Time to join the mirror matchup hell club. PvP and ZvZ welcomes TvT with open arms. :p But...but...we don't like you... | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:22 [OGN]Remmy wrote: No songs between matches? Mind is all you need | ||
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Raskit
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On May 18 2013 12:21 tozi wrote: What does Flash being Flash mean? Flash especially likes them because hes so good with them You answered your own question . I'd hate to see it be hellbat vs hellbat all the time. TvT can be such a beautiful match-up. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
MINDMINDMINDMIND And where's mind now? I'm kinda missed him and found him in the report as practice mate from Life last time. EDIT: typo for Spoiler tag | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:24 Raskit wrote: You answered your own question . I'd hate to see it be hellbat vs hellbat all the time. TvT can be such a beautiful match-up. Remember when blue flame got nerfed and for like a month we had nothing but pure marine vs marine TvT? This could be even worse than that. | ||
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Whatson
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On May 18 2013 12:26 forsooth wrote: Remember when blue flame got nerfed and for like a month we had nothing but pure marine vs marine TvT? This could be even worse than that. I honestly preferred marine medivac wars lols | ||
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suicideyear
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
And Flash is drinkin dat bottle | ||
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tozi
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[OGN]Remmy
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On May 18 2013 12:29 suicideyear wrote: i think that if taeja doesn't win here then flash just goes on to all-kill again I agree with you so much. | ||
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Shellshock
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On May 18 2013 12:29 Topin wrote: it should be illegal to send Flash first STX using INnoVation first, too. Gotta farm those 4-0s if possible. So many teams close in the standings | ||
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Dodgin
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On May 18 2013 12:29 LighT. wrote: Absolutely packed today Full studio? I haven't been looking at the stream between games. | ||
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suicideyear
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On May 18 2013 12:30 Dodgin wrote: Full studio? I haven't been looking at the stream between games. you can always know when it's full when SpoTV goes overboard on crowd shots. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
李 is the surname of Lee 运 means fortune, life or so. 好 means good, well. So the name means Lee with good luck/fortune. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:30 Dodgin wrote: Full studio? I haven't been looking at the stream between games. Very close to full, really nice to see. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:30 WigglingSquid wrote: TaeJa is one tick ahead in SCV production. Clearly Flash is behind now. TaeJa's gas was 1 tick faster than Flash's. 1 tick closer to hellbats. Flash might as well gg now | ||
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sage_francis
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On May 18 2013 12:30 ladyumbra wrote: I miss blue flame hellion drops, they were at least pretty to watch. they are still pretty good in tvt | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
I'm so used to the sarcasm from WoL about this that I almost flamed | ||
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forsooth
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On May 18 2013 12:33 LighT. wrote: For the love of god Flash please go bio, no mech T_T You. Get out. | ||
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j4vz
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teddyoojo
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i think its gg | ||
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Zariel
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
The koreans going MINE MINE MINE is epic. | ||
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Dodgin
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See you in hell | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:35 Shellshock1122 wrote: I dont get why you would just drop 1 widow mine at each base in TvT if you dropped them in the same base then 1 scan takes out both of them. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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How many poor SCVs got killed?:O | ||
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WigglingSquid
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On May 18 2013 12:36 Dodgin wrote: Every TvT ever until a balance patch happens is going to be like this isnt it See you in hell Hell is empty and all the devils are here, playing our TvTs. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
fixed | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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Heinsenzerg
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LETS MAKE THIS A GOOD GAME NOW | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:38 Dodgin wrote: We should just make it so Hellbats do 0 damage to Terran units fixed Opposite of the spore crawler buff, I like it. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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On May 18 2013 12:39 Neptuneajax wrote: On another note, can someone please explain to me how in the hell hellbats are considered bio and able to be healed? Hellbats OP Terran OP | ||
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negativedge
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On May 18 2013 12:39 forsooth wrote: Opposite of the spore crawler buff, I like it. make it so SCVs can upgrade flame retardant suits form the CC | ||
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forsooth
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On May 18 2013 12:39 Neptuneajax wrote: On another note, can someone please explain to me how in the hell hellbats are considered bio and able to be healed? I dunno, does it make any less sense than marines and marauders in big metal suits being healed by magical green beams? | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
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damn those vikings. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
Ouch, bad for TaeJa for losing that double drop. | ||
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oogieogie
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On May 18 2013 12:42 forsooth wrote: I dunno, does it make any less sense than marines and marauders in big metal suits being healed by magical green beams? well when you consider that it is a robot being healed by a magical green beam then yes | ||
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WoodLeagueAllStar
United States806 Posts
New TvT = New Star Trek - Drops everytime, constant exciting action but accused of being a lot dumber with lower character development <trollface> | ||
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suicideyear
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yrt123
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NovemberstOrm
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jekku
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On May 18 2013 12:45 [OGN]Remmy wrote: So the next one is Jaedong! Nerdgasm | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:44 oogieogie wrote: well when you consider that it is a robot being healed by a magical green beam then yes It's a magical green beam. The target is irrelevant, the clue is in the word Magical. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:44 oogieogie wrote: well when you consider that it is a robot being healed by a magical green beam then yes It's not really a robot, more of a man-operated vehicle that can transform into a flamethrowing battle suit. :p | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:44 oogieogie wrote: well when you consider that it is a robot being healed by a magical green beam then yes It's still a dude in a metal suit in any case. Hellbats have drivers. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:46 NovemberstOrm wrote: taeja aint dead yet. base down, down in supply, cant afford to max :/ | ||
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rj rl
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ps: have anyone ever seen thors' second AA mode used in a promatch? | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:48 rj rl wrote: Finally someone's aware of taeja's proxy bullshit and it's punished. ps: have anyone ever seen thors' second AA mode used in a promatch? I can't recall when but yes, I have seen it. It's not especially good though. | ||
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sparklyresidue
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ETisME
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his tank contain was soooo spread thin | ||
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WigglingSquid
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On May 18 2013 12:48 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Don't be turtle TaeJa. Have you ever been bitten by a turtle? It hurts. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote: How is Flash letting his lead slip away, he's not seriously getting outplayed in lategame TvT by a guy with broken wrists is he? O_O air transition should be too much | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote: How is Flash letting his lead slip away, he's not seriously getting outplayed in lategame TvT by a guy with broken wrists is he? O_O Never underestimate the Terran with the broken wrists. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:49 WigglingSquid wrote: Have you ever been bitten by a turtle? It hurts. Made me lel | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote: How is Flash letting his lead slip away, he's not seriously getting outplayed in lategame TvT by a guy with broken wrists is he? O_O His air transition is in progress and much further along than Taeja's, he's in fine shape. | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:49 sparklyresidue wrote: I will be hearing comsat scans in my sleep tonight! Dont laugh but that happened to me once | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
SO good. | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:50 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Flash goes air units? COOOOOOL Did you see his game vs fantasy? | ||
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gg. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
rofl, whole game had the players mixed up. Was wondering why Flash was totally outmicroing taeja before getting beat down by macro. Makes sense now. | ||
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Heinsenzerg
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On May 18 2013 12:52 FuRong wrote: That was beautiful. really? it was a shitty game | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
PPPPPPPP | ||
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suicideyear
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"thank you, starcraft gods. no more hellbat drops." | ||
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Thinasy
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What, how was this a shitty game? | ||
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Bagration
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Why do you think so? | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:52 Scarecrow wrote: Taeja mules piss me off. This is why I love Flash, such insane play to stay alive that long That was Flash's mule. Actually, do you even know Flash won? | ||
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Azera
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On May 18 2013 12:52 raf3776 wrote: the only best thing could be is flash wins the next game and then game 4 jaedong comes out to reverse all kill yes please | ||
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Rulker
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no it wasnt | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:52 Scarecrow wrote: Taeja mules piss me off. This is why I love Flash, such insane play to stay alive that long L O L | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:53 Kommander wrote: Watch Jaedong win a 3rd time vs Flash with a ling baneling bust :p That would be HerO. | ||
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Bagration
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On May 18 2013 12:53 plogamer wrote: Anyone catch that swagger from Flash? He walks like a pro boxing champ. He walks like a champion because he is a champion, and today he gets to farm EG TL for PL wins. | ||
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iamahydralisk
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On May 18 2013 12:52 Scarecrow wrote: Taeja mules piss me off. This is why I love Flash, such insane play to stay alive that long Are you confused? Your statement of "such insane play to stay alive that long" applies way more to Taeja than Flash here... Taeja was considerably behind for nearly the entire game, but he managed to stay in it for a long time through really smart play. | ||
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poisui
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On May 18 2013 12:49 WigglingSquid wrote: Have you ever been bitten by a turtle? It hurts. Have you ever seen battle cruisers shoot a turtle. | ||
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tl2212
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On May 18 2013 12:53 petered wrote: I always feel bad for Taeja. In my mind he is still a fantastic players but 1) he is obviously hampered by wrist issues and 2) he is always getting sent out against the other team's best players, making it hard to get momentum. yeah, they really just need to use him in a situation where he can just cheese and end the game quickly. | ||
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ETisME
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On May 18 2013 12:52 Scarecrow wrote: Taeja mules piss me off. This is why I love Flash, such insane play to stay alive that long what? @@ just hope you know that flash won. | ||
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Thinasy
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On May 18 2013 12:54 Heinsenzerg wrote: it´s just my opinion Of course its your opinion, we just wanted to know why you thought it was a shitty game | ||
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StarStruck
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He must be dazed and confused. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:54 Thinasy wrote: Of course its your opinion, we just wanted to know why you thought it was a shitty game Maybe he's an EGTL fan. | ||
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Heinsenzerg
Argentina2279 Posts
i used to love tvt | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:54 poisui wrote: Have you ever seen battle cruisers shoot a turtle. No but Ive seen a cattle with a turtle on top. | ||
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Whatson
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On May 18 2013 12:55 Heinsenzerg wrote: early game hellbat galore it´s something i´ve quickly grown to hate i used to love tvt Doesn't make it a shitty game lol | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:54 Bagration wrote: He walks like a champion because he is a champion, and today he gets to farm EG TL for PL wins and some practice matches FTFY  | ||
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plogamer
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On May 18 2013 12:54 Bagration wrote: He walks like a champion because he is a champion, and today he gets to farm EG TL for PL wins. No denying that. Dat swagger was sexy, just sayin' | ||
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Kommander
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On May 18 2013 12:55 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Flash's win ratios to 3 races are all around 60%. It's just amazing. Standard Flash if you ask me :p | ||
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isaachukfan
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Thinasy
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I agree on the hellbat drop part in early game, but the rest of the game was beautiful | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
YES I TOOK OUT HIS BC Phew.. All **** there's 3 more!? **** THIS! | ||
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Heinsenzerg
Argentina2279 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:56 Dodgin wrote: It wasn't a shitty game but I REALLY dislike the fact that the hellbat drops in the early game decides who wins, yeah the game didn't end there but someone of Flash's skill level isn't going to lose a game after being so ahead. It was just a 15 minute death animation. pretty much this | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:55 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Flash's win ratios to 3 races are all around 60%. It's just amazing. 2 wins today boosts his sc2 tvt to 70% (47-20) | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Not standard flash. STill has around 10%+ to go. sOs I think is 70%+ across the board | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:56 Porishan wrote: You won't see any amazing mech vs mech game like that, tbh mech vs mech in TvT is always considered boring matchup but that game is incredible good You must be confused, mech TvT has been good since we first started seeing it in WoL. | ||
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LighT.
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On May 18 2013 12:57 iamho wrote: Time to get out the brooms.. JD hits Flash pretty hard.. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:56 Dodgin wrote: It wasn't a shitty game but I REALLY dislike the fact that the hellbat drops in the early game decides who wins, yeah the game didn't end there but someone of Flash's skill level isn't going to lose a game after being so ahead. It was just a 15 minute death animation. To each his own I guess. I think hellbat fights are pretty micro and multi-task intensive, and it's mostly skill dependent. Adds a bit more action to the early game TvT which I personally don't mind too much, unless my favorite players die to it. | ||
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sage_francis
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On May 18 2013 12:54 Thinasy wrote: Of course its your opinion, we just wanted to know why you thought it was a shitty game well, the guy is also complaining about the lovely plastic chairs we are seeing in PL for ages... just love to complain i guess ^^ | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:57 LighT. wrote: Not standard flash. STill has around 10%+ to go. sOs I think is 70%+ across the board Oh right lol Flash sucks, only 60% win rate | ||
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
Ahhh such a good movie. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:56 MrMotionPicture wrote: Where's the Mind Time Here it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i82CUzNzgRA | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:57 LighT. wrote: Not standard flash. STill has around 10%+ to go. sOs I think is 70%+ across the board sOs General 120/174 (69%) vP 44/66 (67%) vT 38/54 (70%) vZ 38/54 (70%) such weak PvP | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
Not that Flash needs anymore hype than he already has, but in my mind he is undoubtedly the best RTS player of all time. The way he transitioned from being top dog in BW to being a top 5 player in SC2 in about 6 months is just mind boggling. I always believed that RTS skill is mostly hard work and dedication over innate talent, but Flash obviously has something the rest of us don't. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
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On loop until the next game hahah | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:58 Shellshock1122 wrote: sOs General 120/174 (69%) vP 44/66 (67%) vT 38/54 (70%) vZ 38/54 (70%) such week PvP Seven days of playing PvP makes one week | ||
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WigglingSquid
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On May 18 2013 12:54 poisui wrote: Have you ever seen battle cruisers shoot a turtle. Well, the best analogy would be predatory birds hunting turtles. They can't pierce through the carapace or reach inside the shell, so they just pick them up and let them fall from a high enough height as to kill the poor turtle on impact and crack the shell. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:59 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I thought it's TaeJa not Taeja. :O But the chart shows it's Taeja. It has always been Taeja | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:58 Shellshock1122 wrote: sOs General 120/174 (69%) vP 44/66 (67%) vT 38/54 (70%) vZ 38/54 (70%) such week PvP 67%? What a scrub. :<! | ||
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Heinsenzerg
Argentina2279 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:58 sage_francis wrote: well, the guy is also complaining about the lovely plastic chairs we are seeing in PL for ages... just love to complain i guess ^^ im bitter today sorry | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:59 petered wrote: Not that Flash needs anymore hype than he already has, but in my mind he is undoubtedly the best RTS player of all time. The way he transitioned from being top dog in BW to being a top 5 player in SC2 in about 6 months is just mind boggling. I always believed that RTS skill is mostly hard work and dedication over innate talent, but Flash obviously has something the rest of us don't. Divinity? | ||
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Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:59 petered wrote: Not that Flash needs anymore hype than he already has, but in my mind he is undoubtedly the best RTS player of all time. The way he transitioned from being top dog in BW to being a top 5 player in SC2 in about 6 months is just mind boggling. I always believed that RTS skill is mostly hard work and dedication over innate talent, but Flash obviously has something the rest of us don't. Flash is what happens when a genius works his ass off. | ||
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ETisME
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On May 18 2013 12:57 Bagration wrote: To each his own I guess. I think hellbat fights are pretty micro and multi-task intensive, and it's mostly skill dependent. Adds a bit more action to the early game TvT which I personally don't mind too much, unless my favorite players die to it. the biggest problem with hellbat is that the one who is doing hellbat drops are always easier with the multi tasking side because of the medviac pick up micro. you can constantly position and reposition the units and just pick up if needed. there is technically no GOOD defensive micro because of it. | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:58 Shellshock1122 wrote: sOs General 120/174 (69%) vP 44/66 (67%) vT 38/54 (70%) vZ 38/54 (70%) such weak PvP sOs is a monster lol. Those winrates are amazing considering how he has such a wonky style across all matchups, especially in PvZ. | ||
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LighT.
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Those former rookie of the year Kespa toss are scary ;_; | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:01 Myles wrote: Please God, spare EG-TL today. He said no and then took a swig from the bottle. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:01 Kommander wrote: sOs is a monster lol. Those winrates are amazing considering how he has such a wonky style across all matchups, especially in PvZ. it's only wonky because everyone else hasn't started playing like him ! | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:02 jesteRp wrote: To all the people complaining about TvT being all hellbat drops, imagine this: dropships held 4 hellbats as cargo instead of 2 pre-patch. Just because it was dumb prepatch doesn't mean it's not dumb now. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:03 LighT. wrote: Sort of funny, On-air, sOs aka sHy was the first player to beat a eSF player ST_Ace and now he's coming this far Those former rookie of the year Kespa toss are scary ;_; sOs has David Kim's blessing. The GSL is his! | ||
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United States6565 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:04 Zenbrez wrote: Just because it was dumb prepatch doesn't mean it's not dumb now. people would rather see 8 marines in a medivac, because that's what they're used to, I guess. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:04 Azera wrote: Proxy oracles please! Probably good idea, Flash doesnt have maphax for sc2 yet | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
I know that Macro Flash won't do that stuff. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:01 ETisME wrote: the biggest problem with hellbat is that the one who is doing hellbat drops are always easier with the multi tasking side because of the medviac pick up micro. you can constantly position and reposition the units and just pick up if needed. there is technically no GOOD defensive micro because of it. It's like that period of time where every protoss on ladder in PvP went for 4gate. If you didn't 4gate, you most likely died to a 4gate, but then you were behind to everything else, so do you take the risk and go 3gate tech or do you just 4gate and hope he 4gated? It's a terrible analogy, but it kind of makes sense. | ||
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Canada5973 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:05 Alejandrisha wrote: people would rather see 8 marines in a medivac, because that's what they're used to, I guess. I'd rather see 8 marines because they're destructible. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 13:05 Alejandrisha wrote: people would rather see 8 marines in a medivac, because that's what they're used to, I guess. Haven't you people heard. 1 viking drop is the new psychological warfare game. | ||
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Dodgin
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On May 18 2013 13:05 Alejandrisha wrote: people would rather see 8 marines in a medivac, because that's what they're used to, I guess. or It's because marines don't do insane damage to light units in a radius | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
I'm trying to learn some new good builds for PvT... | ||
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Whatson
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You think I only go 14cc? HA. 1rax FE | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:02 jesteRp wrote: To all the people complaining about TvT being all hellbat drops, imagine this: dropships held 4 hellbats as cargo instead of 2 pre-patch. the 4 slot was a buff. Made the hellbat drops more cost effective and if they drop 4 hellbats they unload with double speed and are harder to prevent since there are 2 drop ships. Overall I would say it helps people more then hurting them. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:10 Whatson wrote: Okay, the game is even now No, Hero has a significant lead | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:11 poisui wrote: Does Flash not study Hero's games? Hero cheeses like 75% of the games that I have seen from him. T_T Dumb comment is dumb. Hero is generally macro focused player. he pulled out a cheese because he is playing against a strong macro player who favors greedy builds. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:13 Highways wrote: Hero disgraceful cheeser He played Flash like a fiddle. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:14 Heinsenzerg wrote: i think credit for this one is for coach park Coach Park is the reason for every EG-TL win duh. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:13 Highways wrote: Hero disgraceful cheeser - #1 Terran Hater | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:13 Highways wrote: Hero disgraceful cheeser Your favorite players cheese. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:14 AgentW wrote: Hmmm, so Zest here? Snipe for PvP? Zest used to be invincible in PvP when they first switched over fully, but he's looked vulnerable in the matchup lately. Let's go HerO! | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:15 ooni wrote: Why the fk is GSTL on the same time as SC2Proleague? so we can watch something during the 20 minutes of downtime between the games | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:14 ggrrg wrote: Seeing Flash's greedy builds being denied by cheese was a pleasure in bw and is still a pleasure in sc2 This. I love Flash, but i'm all smiles right now. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:15 NovemberstOrm wrote: HerO has a 72% winrate in hots pvp record is 13-5 Pretty impressive since he started off so horribly in HoTS. IIRC he was like 0-8 overall or something to start the expansion | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:15 iiAreJordan wrote: My hero <33 I hope EGTL is able to pull the miracle. They're only down a game relax. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:11 poisui wrote: Does Flash not study Hero's games? Hero cheeses like 75% of the games that I have seen from him. T_T i don't think flash extensively studies other players' games apart from a few people. he just pretty much does his own thing haha. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:13 Highways wrote: Hero disgraceful cheeser It is not disgraceful to punish a player who plays extremely greedy all the time like that. This is a strategy game for goodness sake. It is smart to mix in some variety or else you let players get away with building too few units in the early game. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:16 xXFireandIceXx wrote: ugh PvP - Hero's bane of existence.... maybe before but in hots his pvp has been pretty sick he has a 70% winrate | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:16 Shellshock1122 wrote: Pretty impressive since he started off so horribly in HoTS. IIRC he was like 0-8 overall or something to start the expansion Even with that streak he's still a beast in PvP this is why you don't question it when he's sent out against Rain/PartinG in the ace.  | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:17 tozi wrote: that was a disappointing match. I thought it wouldve been a great game between those two. Hero just didn't want to go macro i guess << cant say i blame hiim i agree. hero just did what he had to do there. it was his biggest chance of getting the win. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:16 theMagus wrote: i don't think flash extensively studies other players' games apart from a few people. he just pretty much does his own thing haha. Yea..pretty much.. You cheese vs Flash? 14cc You macro vs Flash? 14cc Standard vs Flash? 14cc A game of Mafia? 14cc | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:15 AgentW wrote: Zest used to be invincible in PvP when they first switched over fully, but he's looked vulnerable in the matchup lately. Let's go HerO! isn't Zest winning all his PvP's recently? heck, kt even beat WJS twice with zest and stats | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:18 LuckyFool wrote: tuned in just in time to see Flash get pwnt in a cheesy game....sadness! Surprised Flash didn't scout it. Like I said earlier, it was a really big deal when flash used his scouting scv to block the natural rather than check out the main. He caught the proxy too late and therefore didn't start his CC on the high ground. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:16 NovemberstOrm wrote: maybe before but in hots his pvp has been pretty sick he has a 70% winrate To be fair a lot of those wins come from Dreamhack. He is still 5-3 PvP in SPL though, including 3 wins against hero[join] and a win against Rain. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:18 StarStruck wrote: Even with that streak he's still a beast in PvP this is why you don't question it when he's sent out against Rain/PartinG in the ace. 6-0'd adelscott, verdi and puzzle wow beast. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:19 LighT. wrote: Yea..pretty much.. You cheese vs Flash? 14cc You macro vs Flash? 14cc Standard vs Flash? 14cc A game of Mafia? 14cc Because he believes that he can stop it in it's tracks every time. Talk about a stubborn/confident player in his abilities. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:19 NicksonReyes wrote: I hope Hero wins the next 2 games just because I want to see how good Stats is, especially now that he's acting as KT's final boss. Flash and Wooki getting all the playtime :/. Youre guaranteed to see lots of Stats next week. hold your horses | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro. Though Flash played fine until the oracle. I think he really underestimated Hero's aggression. His completely let down his defence completely and it cost him | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro. I wasn't the biggest BW follower, but I remember Flash slumping in 2011 I believe when he would 14 CC every game and everyone cheesed him constantly until he stopped being so greedy. Am I remembering that correctly? | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:23 petered wrote: I wasn't the biggest BW follower, but I remember Flash slumping in 2011 I believe when he would 14 CC every game and everyone cheesed him constantly until he stopped being so greedy. Am I remembering that correctly? No. He would 14cc every game, everyone cheesed him, beat him He still went 14cc, everyone still cheesed him but this time they couldnt beat him. And cheese vs 14cc was no longer effective | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:23 LighT. wrote: Though Flash played fine until the oracle. I think he really underestimated Hero's aggression. His completely let down his defence completely and it cost him He was definitely behind at that point. Really should have started his CC on the high ground. Still, the oracle followup was pretty brilliant because at that point Flash was counting on his bunkers rather than marine numbers to hold off aggression at the front. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:24 Emzeeshady wrote: Reminds me of Life vs Mvp in the GSL finals. Mvp goes for Blue Flame Hellion every game. Life was like fuck roaches, I can kill 12 blue flame hellions with drones and lings. To his credit he did though... Oh we know damn well how cocky Life lings can be. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:25 LighT. wrote: No. He would 14cc every game, everyone cheesed him, beat him He still went 14cc, everyone still cheesed him but this time they couldnt beat him. And cheese vs 14cc was no longer effective haha, I stand corrected. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:24 Havik_ wrote: So Hero beat Flash with cheese. Figured :p. No EGTL Protoss is beating Flash in a macro game. flash VERY rarely loses macro games from what i've seen that's why everyone cheeses him to win | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:25 LighT. wrote: No. He would 14cc every game, everyone cheesed him, beat him He still went 14cc, everyone still cheesed him but this time they couldnt beat him. And cheese vs 14cc was no longer effective Yeah, he would slightly alter timings and the littlest of details in his build such that cheese vs 14cc was near impossible. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:24 StarStruck wrote: Why are you only looking at his last dreamhack results? lol. I'm looking at the majority of his wins. Why are you only looking at HIS results? Wooki is fucking 9-2 in PL PvP only, and who's the beast - right, hero. lol. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:26 fluidin wrote: flash VERY rarely loses macro games from what i've seen that's why everyone cheeses him to win Makes sense. That's what he's known for. Innovation and Life are the only players I recall beating him in long macro games IIRC. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:27 rj rl wrote: I'm looking at the majority of his wins. Why are you only looking at HIS results? Wooki is fucking 9-2 in PL PvP only, and who's the beast - right, hero. lol. Sorry fellah, but we call that selective reasoning and there's a lot more substance than that. Who said they both cannot be PvP beasts? HerO knows how to play. P.S. I wasn't only looking at HerO's results so don't put words in my mouth. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:27 Kommander wrote: Yeah, he would slightly alter timings and the littlest of details in his build such that cheese vs 14cc was near impossible. Flash bet his opponent has no balls to cheese him. cuz he is Flash. But whenever his oppoent cheeses him, like what JD did last time, Flash is doomed | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:27 Havik_ wrote: Makes sense. That's what he's known for. Innovation and Life are the only players I recall beating him in long macro games IIRC. As much as I hate to admit it, for HoTS you can add Parting to that list :<... | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:28 Azera wrote: PROXIES FROM ZEST! wrong guy | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:31 [OGN]Remmy wrote: zest is the top winnin Toss in Toss League, so it's obvious. What's obvious? *raises eyebrow* | ||
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So it's not that Flash doesn't like mind games. It's just that he figured that playing mind games hurts his solid play more than it benefits. He can, but he won't. And to come to that realisation, takes really deep thinking and discipline. | ||
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I can't tell LOL | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:33 megapants wrote: i dont like thatttttt why'd he go up the ramp when he has the oracle coming soon Yeah really questionable decision making. Lost a lot to the nexus cannon. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:39 LighT. wrote: Wow..both are them are playing brilliantly that's what i'd expect | ||
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THAT ORACLE | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:43 Havik_ wrote: HerOverrated. How can you not like that smexy play? | ||
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2 base all game | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:48 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Mass Chargin Voids are just OP. In my experience, any number of charged or uncharged void rays are OP against colossi. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:48 sevia wrote: PvP is weird I thought it could get any weirder than WoL PvP, but I was wrong. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:48 [OGN]Remmy wrote: Mass Chargin Voids are just OP. Really? How about the fact that Hero had no anti air whatsoever? | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:49 Shellshock1122 wrote: Zest 6 game PvP win streak against HerO, Trap, Dear, Stork, sOs, and free Holy cow, that's quite the list. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:49 rj rl wrote: gg hero, your proxies won't be missed. Don't blame him for getting creative. It will always be in his opponents head. I remember Jangbi used to go for proxies all the time in BW to the point other players would get paranoid. o; | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:50 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote: What's wrong with Alive, Revival and Oz. They all started strong and then simply faded away I know that Revival is in WCS NA Code A. | ||
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Just needs to add PartinG and Rain to it and we can have a tea party! | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:50 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote: What's wrong with Alive, Revival and Oz. They all started strong and then simply faded away Back to washing dishes | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:50 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote: What's wrong with Alive, Revival and Oz. They all started strong and then simply faded away They are pretty good but not Proleague caliber players. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:52 petered wrote: JD with da triple. calling it now. When he will have to go through a line of Protoss starting with Wooki? I don't think so bub. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:51 LighT. wrote: Hes all ike Rain, Parting, Jangbi. COMING FOR YOU! His last loss was against HS of all people | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:50 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote: What's wrong with Alive, Revival and Oz. They all started strong and then simply faded away They're nothing wrong with them. Alive's Oz's been playing solidly actually. Kespa guys have been sniping them hard, and studying extensively in non-all kill format. They're low-mid tier players overall, Alive being more mid tier. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:52 StarStruck wrote: When he will have to go through a line of Protoss starting with Wooki? I don't think so bub. He might get a few wins then lose to Stats again. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:53 NicksonReyes wrote: He might get a few wins then lose to Stats again. That would be fun. I have no problem watching more games. Get those reps in JD. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:53 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I feel upset with JD cuz he's not that good at zvp Hes said in interviews, he's really brushed up on ZvP and he has quite confidence in him, so lets see how he does | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:53 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I feel upset with JD cuz he's not that good at zvp But hey, he is pretty good at JvP | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:53 tl2212 wrote: i really wanted to see JD vs flash It would pretty one sided in FLash's favor. I haven't seen JD play in a while, but last I checked Flash was way ahead of him. I also remember Jaedong being terrible vs protoss. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:54 Bagration wrote: That was a nice PvP. Yea when it isnt Colosseus wars, PvPs are quite entertaining On a sidenote..crazy how he predicted when Life was going to win the game before the game even happened.. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:55 Havik_ wrote: It would pretty one sided in FLash's favor. I haven't seen JD play in a while, but last I checked Flash was way ahead of him. I also remember Jaedong being terrible vs protoss. Youre forgetting the fact that JD beat Flash the last time they played each other. JD has those Shine One-Hit KO timings that are quite effective vs him | ||
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ladyumbra
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On May 18 2013 13:50 StarStruck wrote: Don't blame him for getting creative. It will always be in his opponents head. I remember Jangbi used to go for proxies all the time in BW to the point other players would get paranoid. o; I remember originally hating hero because every time I saw him at MLG he was doing voidray stalker all ins against terran. Then I loved him for his cute micro tricks and his warp prisms in PvZ , now I'm just all mrggle again when he cheeses. I like him better when he's playing fancy but closer to standard. Which is weird because I like cheese. I had a thing for July's tendency to baneling bust and Hongun's faith in blink stalker all ins. I have no idea why hero is held to a higher standard. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:55 Havik_ wrote: It would pretty one sided in FLash's favor. I haven't seen JD play in a while, but last I checked Flash was way ahead of him. I also remember Jaedong being terrible vs protoss. But I think jd has beat flash a few times punishing flash greedy play... | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: His last loss was against HS of all people Well..Haruhi IS God so I mean..sort of makes sense. | ||
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gobbledydook
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On May 18 2013 13:55 Havik_ wrote: It would pretty one sided in FLash's favor. I haven't seen JD play in a while, but last I checked Flash was way ahead of him. I also remember Jaedong being terrible vs protoss. Except in Starcraft 2, JD is 2-0 against Flash. | ||
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On May 18 2013 13:58 SCST wrote: Holy cow . . . PvP is incredibly fun to watch now. Sad about Hero though =/ If they replaced colosseus with reavers.. eh? eh??? | ||
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Scarecrow
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On May 18 2013 14:00 iamho wrote: Whoa JD has a <50% winrate in this season's proleague.. Winner's league can be a bit deceptive. At best he usually gets 1 kill then gets sniped, which doesn't lend to a >50% winrate. | ||
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LighT.
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KT should sent out Ho Young Lee,, their terran addition who sort of looks like flash. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 13:57 ladyumbra wrote: I remember originally hating hero because every time I saw him at MLG he was doing voidray stalker all ins against terran. Then I loved him for his cute micro tricks and his warp prisms in PvZ , now I'm just all mrggle again when he cheeses. I like him better when he's playing fancy but closer to standard. Which is weird because I like cheese. I had a thing for July's tendency to baneling bust and Hongun's faith in blink stalker all ins. I have no idea why hero is held to a higher standard. I still consider him one of those Protoss' who thinks outside of the box and here's the thing. His micro has to be spot on or else he's dead just like every other toss. He still tries to make a lot of cute plays. | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:02 Scarecrow wrote: Winner's league can be a bit deceptive. At best he usually gets 1 kill then gets sniped, which doesn't lend to a >50% winrate. Even prior to WL he was a few games below 500, no? I thought he ws something like 7-10? | ||
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Whatson
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On May 18 2013 14:04 StarStruck wrote: I still consider him one of those Protoss' who thinks outside of the box and here's the thing. His micro has to be spot on or else he's dead just like every other toss. He still tries to make a lot of cute plays. There were games at either MLG or on stream where he tried to do 2base collosi warp prism harassment. There were a few games where a viking sniped the warp prism + collosi and he died 2 minutes later. | ||
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orangeorange
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On May 18 2013 14:08 teddyoojo wrote: so guys, zest took out the hatch with 800 mins for free lol glad i'm not the only one who noticed that. "he spends 800 to 900 minerals to take down the hatch for free!" | ||
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Edit: And when you base race, you're supposed to put down spines! | ||
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How long until JD figures ZvP? | ||
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Poll: Recommend Set 5? Yes (9) No (3) If you have time (2) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 5? Poll: Recommend Set 6? If you have time (5) Yes (3) No (1) 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Set 6? | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:13 Mohdoo wrote: I seriously don't understand EGTL. They perform so unbelievably bad in proleague. It makes no sense at all. They always look leagues worse than they do in any other environment. Remember GSTL? The level of competition in PL is quite a bit higher than any other team-league they've ever played in. | ||
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some1 make t8 vs khan thread and use bannerby: BisuDagger | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:13 Supah wrote: I don't get it, were Mutas really that weak in BW? Hell no. They could be microed to precision. | ||
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zyzq
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On May 18 2013 14:15 mango_destroyer wrote: taeja seems happy lol taeja is always happy win or lose. i like his attitude lol | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:16 [OGN]Remmy wrote: EG-TL may quit the next season's SPL? Just because they arent getting into the playoffs? that would be weird... | ||
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rj rl
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On May 18 2013 14:13 Mohdoo wrote: I seriously don't understand EGTL. They perform so unbelievably bad in proleague. It makes no sense at all. They always look leagues worse than they do in any other environment. is should be because "any other environment" is basically foreign tournaments for most of their players, and foreign tournaments you know - it's not really the same. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
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On May 18 2013 14:14 Whatson wrote: Remember GSTL? The level of competition in PL is quite a bit higher than any other team-league they've ever played in. Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. | ||
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LighT.
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On May 18 2013 14:16 [OGN]Remmy wrote: EG-TL may quit the next season's SPL? Theyve invested heavily though..but at this rate they just might.. not good with sponsors..but then again they are getting attention.. | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:16 RKC wrote: Zest looks unimpressed. Is he the next he-who-shalt-not-be-named? new zerg bonjwa? | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:14 Whatson wrote: Remember GSTL? The level of competition in PL is quite a bit higher than any other team-league they've ever played in. Yes and the other teams have more depth. This is one of the issues I addressed as soon as they made the announcement of TL-EG partnership. EG really needed TaeJa and HerO for depth but if the boys aren't running hot it equals trouble. The other teams have solid line-ups and fair competition inhouse to evaluate who to send out. They need more bodies and more healthy competition inside the house. | ||
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LighT.
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On May 18 2013 14:17 TeslasPigeon wrote: Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) Also..all proleague teams depths are shalow Look at KT.. Same Flash/Zest/Stats/ ACtion or Crazy-hydra every time Look at Samsung Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality every time. Or even STX: Innovation/Hyvaa/(insert 2 STX Toss) all the time. only SKT T1 and Woongjin can boast about depth | ||
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Whatson
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On May 18 2013 14:17 TeslasPigeon wrote: Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. They sucked in GSTL. They were dead-last. They got 5-2d by NSH_Tassadar. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:17 TeslasPigeon wrote: Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. It's not just snipes. Like I said, they rely a lot on certain players to run hot and yes they need more bodies in the house. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:20 Whatson wrote: They sucked in GSTL. They were dead-last. They got 5-2d by NSH_Tassadar. SlayerS Coca and Puzzle helped them that one season man. You'd think that A.G. would have re-introduced to the mix. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:20 LighT. wrote: Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) Also..all proleague teams depths are shalow Look at KT.. Same Flash/Zest/Stats/ ACtion or Crazy-hydra every time Look at Samsung Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality every time. Or even STX: Innovation/Hyvaa/(insert 2 STX Toss) all the time. only SKT T1 and Woongjin can boast about depth Let's be honest here. Taeja, HerO, JD are guaranteed, teams know they will be sent out, everybody else is a major step below. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:20 Whatson wrote: They sucked in GSTL. They were dead-last. They got 5-2d by NSH_Tassadar. This is true. But that team lacked Taeja, Hero, JD, Oz, Alive, Revival. Basically...the entire EG-TL Roster they're boasting right now outside of JYP | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19238 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:16 NicksonReyes wrote: So, so far this round, KT has won 16 games. 8 from Wooki, 7 from Flash and 1 from Stats. Halfway through the round, they haven't sent out anyone other than Flash and Wooki yet except in their first match where Stats was KT's starter. The funny part is KT is still not a very strong team. Round 6 will send them back down the rankings. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:20 LighT. wrote: Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) Also..all proleague teams depths are shalow Look at KT.. Same Flash/Zest/Stats/ ACtion or Crazy-hydra every time Look at Samsung Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality every time. Or even STX: Innovation/Hyvaa/(insert 2 STX Toss) all the time. only SKT T1 and Woongjin can boast about depth They rely on those players because they're running hot so ofc you'll see those combos. Those rosters have more meat. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:21 StarStruck wrote: SlayerS Coca and Puzzle helped them that one season man. You'd think that A.G. would have re-introduced to the mix. I think JYP was also one of the best players on SlayerS_EG during GSTL? He got put into ace quite a bit. I remember Zenex vs Liquid very well actually. It was one of the first matches signaling Life's reign of domination. | ||
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Bagration
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On May 18 2013 14:23 LighT. wrote: This is true. But that team lacked Taeja, Hero, JD, Oz, Alive, Revival. Basically...the entire EG-TL Roster they're boasting right now outside of JYP They had Taeja for the match against NSH. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:22 Whatson wrote: Let's be honest here. Taeja, HerO, JD are guaranteed, teams know they will be sent out, everybody else is a major step below. Whats your point though.. KT is guaranteed to send: Stats/Flash/Zest SKT T1: Fantasy/Rain/Parting Samsung: Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality STX: INnovation/Rain/Trap All teams basically have 3-4 guys guaranteed to play. | ||
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Shellshock
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On May 18 2013 14:23 LighT. wrote: This is true. But that team lacked Taeja, Hero, JD, Oz, Alive, Revival. Basically...the entire EG-TL Roster they're boasting right now outside of JYP ? Tassadar beat Taeja that day | ||
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LighT.
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Scratch Taeja then T_T; but you get my point >< | ||
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NicksonReyes
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On May 18 2013 14:23 BisuDagger wrote: The funny part is KT is still not a very strong team. Round 6 will send them back down the rankings. They're just hiding how much the rest of the team is improving in HotS right now. They're just hiding the fact that Flash and Wooki are actually their 2 worst players. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:25 LighT. wrote: Whats your point though.. KT is guaranteed to send: Stats/Flash/Zest SKT T1: Fantasy/Rain/Parting Samsung: Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality STX: INnovation/Rain/Trap All teams basically have 3-4 guys guaranteed to play. The difference is the guys that are a step below. On EGTL, who's your next guy after Taeja, HerO, and JD? That player will most likely be weaker than any other guy that gets sent out. | ||
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RKC
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On May 18 2013 14:27 NicksonReyes wrote: They're just hiding how much the rest of the team is improving in HotS right now. They're just hiding the fact that Flash and Wooki are actually their 2 worst players. I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:20 LighT. wrote: Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) lol thats not deep at all (deep enough for WCS NA though). And they dont even have a decent ace. | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote: I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... heh, that's happened a few times. Mafia Zerg. Watch yourself. O-o | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:28 Whatson wrote: The difference is the guys that are a step below. On EGTL, who's your next guy after Taeja, HerO, and JD? That player will most likely be weaker than any other guy that gets sent out. For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around. | ||
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On May 18 2013 14:24 Whatson wrote: I think JYP was also one of the best players on SlayerS_EG during GSTL? He got put into ace quite a bit. I remember Zenex vs Liquid very well actually. It was one of the first matches signaling Life's reign of domination. He won a few games and he was EG's boyo but Coca and Puzzle were doing a lot of the heavy carrying, no? | ||
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StarStruck
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On May 18 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote: For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around. It depends though. Some guys cannot handle being in individual leagues and PL at the same time. Sometimes they get rest; other times they don't, so meh. | ||
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LighT.
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On May 18 2013 14:30 Arceus wrote: lol thats not deep at all (deep enough for WCS NA though). And they dont even have a decent ace. Theyre certainly not the deepest team. But they certainly dont possess the least depth. T8, KT and STX have similar depth. except T8's core is minimally better than EG-TL's and KT and STX possess a super ace and a reliable 2nd hand man. Taeja + JD has been inconsistent | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote: I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... Yep, wait until it's time for KT sends 4 zergs in a row again. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5TgGtDB.jpg) | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:33 StarStruck wrote: He won a few games and he was EG's boyo but Coca and Puzzle were doing a lot of the heavy carrying, no? Yeah, JYP basically just got sent out when nobody else was left CoCa was a monster that season, something like 11-5 in matches? EDIT: 11-4 | ||
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RKC
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On May 18 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote: For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around. No one doubts their talent. The only question, I fear, is their training schedule. I don't know how's it like, but from EG's emphasis on streaming and marketing, maybe the environment doesn't breed them to be better players? Maybe if Coach Park stays, and implements some real hard-core training, we can see some real improvement. The worst thing is that JD's true talent may actually be stifled in EG I'm not suggesting EG's training is bad or anything, maybe it's just something the Koreans aren't used to, and mentally it stifles them. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote: For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around. you miss the fact that people like CH, hyvaa, Shine, Trap etc all reach code S. They arent better than say Flash/Bogus but they keep improving over time meanwhile EGTL ace lost to some random in WCS Code A Round 1 | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:38 Arceus wrote: you miss the fact that people like CH, hyvaa, Shine, Trap etc all reach code S. They arent better than say Flash/Bogus but they keep improving over time meanwhile EGTL ace lost to some random in WCS Code A Round 1 In IPLTAC, Taeja could carry Liquid by either all-killing or 4-killing and the rest of TL would find a way to scratch out a win. That's not the case right now, because there are players on each team that are either on an equal level or better than him. In fact, Taeja couldn't even carry the team in GSTL, because snipers got sent out and killed him and it turns out that besides HerO, everybody else on TL was a big step below the regular Koreans. | ||
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jellyjello
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On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote: I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... Right, and Woongjin Terrans will dominate at the same time. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:07 jellyjello wrote: Right, and Woongjin Terrans will dominate at the same time. KT playoffs zergs is a thing... Multiple times they carried KT into the finals, when stats and flash were LOSING. All the way up to the finals against SKT in the last BW SPL, ALL of KT's zergs won against opponents that you would consider superior. Action Hoejja Crazy-Hydra Perfective going nearly perfect records. It was insane. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:33 Caihead wrote: KT playoffs zergs is a thing... Multiple times they carried KT into the finals, when stats and flash were LOSING. All the way up to the finals against SKT in the last BW SPL, ALL of KT's zergs won against opponents that you would consider superior. Action Hoejja Crazy-Hydra Perfective going nearly perfect records. It was insane. Hoejja is still currently on something like 6-playoffs-win streak. | ||
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
Them siege lines by Flash! <3 | ||
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crashonly
Finland418 Posts
Such a shame to see Jaedong get dominated by protosses so often. Would be good if they could use him as a vZ sniper, but that's just not possible when the rest of the team can't win their games. HerO looked good though, and Taeja wasn't bad either. Flash/Wookie are just really strong at the moment. | ||
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well last round EG-TL did manage to go 3-0 up before getting 4-0'd haha | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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PanzerElite
540 Posts
On May 18 2013 19:01 Qikz wrote: FLash vs Taeja is one of the most exciting TvTs I've ever seen in SC2. This is why mech vs mech is better than anything with bio in it. Them siege lines by Flash! <3 Marine tank vs marine tank = best | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Nope, I can't stand marine tank. The marines are just pretty much pointless fodder and whoever kills the other guys marines wins. Mech vs Mech is all about the siege lines and dead zones (even in SC2) where anything that walks in gets killed and it's all about getting the vision advantage rather than whoever has the most marines. | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
i like how KT uses only 3 players this round lol | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
Also, once again, NICE CROWD woo! | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Scoring: KT +4 EG-TL -1 Flash +5 HerO +3 Wooki +6 all other KT players +1 | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 18 2013 20:34 opterown wrote: well last round EG-TL did manage to go 3-0 up before getting 4-0'd haha Notice the trend? On May 18 2013 20:47 {ToT}ColmA wrote: gonna be interesting if they go into another proleague season with eg/tl, performance wise it can probably only be described well not so good lol Why wouldn't they? This is what I call getting your feet wet. You guys placed absolutely ridiculous expectations on these guys to perform when in reality they're very inexperienced when it comes to PL. Their bench is truly reliant on two guys running hot and the rest of the team at least playing mediocre. That's not a good recipe for success. Stephano didn't want to stay, the other foreigners are doing the WCS thing and were unreliable to perform. At the end of the day, you need more players. Heck, even the ESF teams realize they need substantial rosters in order to keep up. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On May 19 2013 00:29 StarStruck wrote: Notice the trend? Why wouldn't they? This is what I call getting your feet wet. You guys placed absolutely ridiculous expectations on these guys to perform when in reality they're very inexperienced when it comes to PL. Their bench is truly reliant on two guys running hot and the rest of the team at least playing mediocre. That's not a good recipe for success. Stephano didn't want to stay, the other foreigners are doing the WCS thing and were unreliable to perform. At the end of the day, you need more players. Heck, even the ESF teams realize they need substantial rosters in order to keep up. Exactly lol Even if they suck, they still bring a ton of fans. Plus it's not like proleague is just gonna kick out the last place team ever season, there HAS to always be a last place haha | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
nah bio vs mech is the best. Bio drops like crazy and mech with solid defense. Way more fun to watch than marine/tank war. Mech vs mech is even better than marines/tank | ||
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Nosforit
Canada260 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:12 sparklyresidue wrote: If you're not going to bring your big guns to the fight (read: Snute), I'm sorry EG-TL, you've got no chance ^^ The fact that you think that Snute is a big gun that should have replaced anyone in the post-starter lineup of HerO, Taeja and Jaedong says a lot imo. | ||
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fluidin
Singapore1084 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:23 Nosforit wrote: The fact that you think that Snute is a big gun that should have replaced anyone in the post-starter lineup of HerO, Taeja and Jaedong says a lot imo. that he's likely kidding? | ||
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote: Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid. I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking. That ruins all the fun of it though. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart. I thought you won't watch joke proleague, why are you in this thread anyway? User was warned for this post | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote: You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize. I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:30 Emzeeshady wrote: I don't want to get off topic here but posts like these really make me think you are a huge troll. Unless you are joking in which case i suppose your sense of humour eludes me. I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote: I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players. You can be a horrible player and an excellent coach, and vice versa. I don't doubt that Hyuk is a good coach (and I know he had a few moments of greatness in BW as a player as well), but that doesn't mean he'd necessarily be competing for GSLs. | ||
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ducken
Australia63 Posts
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HystericaLaughter
Australia720 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
Squirtle vs Hero in ro4 GSL season 2......... | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote: I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players. It depends on what "awesome" is. If you mean skilled. No. He's far worse than most of the A-teamers on SKT T1. 30% is NOT an average player, thats a below average player. You are entitled to an opinion however your voice is a very minisecule one...such that I'm unsure if anyone else holds similar views. Right now, what is ace player at the moment is: ~high 50%+, the Proleague stats indicate exactly that, the mid tier being mid 40% -mid 50%. Hyuk is a captain because he's one of, if not the oldest (havent checked the ages exactly). Korean tradition. Oldest always gets the leadership role, unless you are an exceptional player that can't be discounted (ie. Jaedong). He can get coach because of his loyal services with the SKT, (loyalty is awarded far more in korea), and although his skill may not reflect much, he may still possess a brilliant mind (ie Nestea) with just not the right mechanics to back it up. RIght now what I see is a lot of players who are unable to compete with the high level players, and dropping off, receiving that captain role. (Ie. Hoejja, Calm, Hyuk, Leta) one of the few exceptions being ZerO., their role is to retain moral of the team and act like a model citizen. Also, you guys should refrain from personal attacks. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3397 Posts
Never forget: | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On May 19 2013 04:13 LighT. wrote: It depends on what "awesome" is. If you mean skilled. No. He's far worse than most of the A-teamers on SKT T1. 30% is NOT an average player, thats a below average player. You are entitled to an opinion however your voice is a very minisecule one...such that I'm unsure if anyone else holds similar views. Right now, what is ace player at the moment is: ~high 50%+, the Proleague stats indicate exactly that, the mid tier being mid 40% -mid 50%. Hyuk is a captain because he's one of, if not the oldest (havent checked the ages exactly). Korean tradition. Oldest always gets the leadership role, unless you are an exceptional player that can't be discounted (ie. Jaedong). He can get coach because of his loyal services with the SKT, (loyalty is awarded far more in korea), and although his skill may not reflect much, he may still possess a brilliant mind (ie Nestea) with just not the right mechanics to back it up. RIght now what I see is a lot of players who are unable to compete with the high level players, and dropping off, receiving that captain role. (Ie. Hoejja, Calm, Hyuk, Leta) one of the few exceptions being ZerO., their role is to retain moral of the team and act like a model citizen. Also, you guys should refrain from personal attacks. An average players gets less than 50% winrate is because below average players are sent out very rarely, so the average players will face legends and above average players much more often than below average players, they will definitely get a less than 50% winrate. My rule is if the player gets sent out regularly, then he's an above average player, unless he possess some kind of horrible record. And the reason they are old progamers is because they are good enough to be old progamers. Those below average players are all washed out when they were young. | ||
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
that is some high lvl pvp | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10158 Posts
On May 19 2013 04:19 Gescom wrote: I think LighT hit the nail on the head as far as the 'player coach' role goes. Never forget: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlunYXyatho&list=PL2B473A7B7EE3ABF9 O MY GOD THIS SERIES DUDE NEVER FORGET THE TIME HYUK ALL KILLED! xD cholera's commentary still legendary today. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:21 ducken wrote: I wonder if boxer is a good coach. Part of me wants to believe he spends all of his time just telling players to try crazy strategies. Nah that's what qxc would do if he was a coach | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
I'm not sure about the math here, but I was told that EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs. EG-TL has 10 matches ahead. Even if they win all of them, they will have a standing of 21-21. I think in all SPL, getting into the playoffs can only be case when you have at least one win more than losses. I don't know the math here but it seems like the case. | ||
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
On May 19 2013 06:10 FlaShFTW wrote: O MY GOD THIS SERIES DUDE NEVER FORGET THE TIME HYUK ALL KILLED! xD cholera's commentary still legendary today. Best moment of my life. Every night before I fall asleep, I imagine the day when he returns as a player and Hyuks us all. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 19 2013 06:33 larse wrote: EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs? I'm not sure about the math here, but I was told that EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs. EG-TL has 10 matches ahead. Even if they win all of them, they will have a standing of 21-21. I think in all SPL, getting into the playoffs can only be case when you have at least one win more than losses. I don't know the math here but it seems like the case. I think it may still be theoretically possible, because if they go 4-0 in their next ten matches, they'll have a positive map score. But hoping for that is like hoping to win the lottery. I think EG TL should just try to avoid getting last place and get 7th in the final standings. They'd lose slightly less face that way | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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GolemMadness
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:25 GolemMadness wrote: Fun fact: in HotS, Wooki's PvP is over 80%. yeah it's pretty fucking good. I posted earlier in the thread that he's currently on a pvp win streak with wins against HerO, sOs, free, Stork, Dear, and Trap. pretty nice list | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:28 Shellshock1122 wrote: yeah it's pretty fucking good. I posted earlier in the thread that he's currently on a pvp win streak with wins against HerO, sOs, free, Stork, Dear, and Trap. pretty nice list dayyyyyamn | ||
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GolemMadness
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