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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 18 2013 04:20 GMT
#541
On May 18 2013 13:18 LuckyFool wrote:
tuned in just in time to see Flash get pwnt in a cheesy game....sadness! Surprised Flash didn't scout it.


Like I said earlier, it was a really big deal when flash used his scouting scv to block the natural rather than check out the main. He caught the proxy too late and therefore didn't start his CC on the high ground.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 18 2013 04:20 GMT
#542
On May 18 2013 13:16 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:16 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
ugh PvP - Hero's bane of existence....

maybe before but in hots his pvp has been pretty sick he has a 70% winrate


To be fair a lot of those wins come from Dreamhack. He is still 5-3 PvP in SPL though, including 3 wins against hero[join] and a win against Rain.
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
May 18 2013 04:20 GMT
#543
On May 18 2013 13:18 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:15 NovemberstOrm wrote:
HerO has a 72% winrate in hots pvp record is 13-5

Pretty impressive since he started off so horribly in HoTS. IIRC he was like 0-8 overall or something to start the expansion


Even with that streak he's still a beast in PvP this is why you don't question it when he's sent out against Rain/PartinG in the ace.

6-0'd adelscott, verdi and puzzle wow beast.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 18 2013 04:20 GMT
#544
On May 18 2013 13:19 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:16 theMagus wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:11 poisui wrote:
Does Flash not study Hero's games? Hero cheeses like 75% of the games that I have seen from him. T_T


i don't think flash extensively studies other players' games apart from a few people. he just pretty much does his own thing haha.

Yea..pretty much..
You cheese vs Flash? 14cc
You macro vs Flash? 14cc
Standard vs Flash? 14cc
A game of Mafia? 14cc


Because he believes that he can stop it in it's tracks every time. Talk about a stubborn/confident player in his abilities.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 18 2013 04:21 GMT
#545
On May 18 2013 13:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I hope Hero wins the next 2 games just because I want to see how good Stats is, especially now that he's acting as KT's final boss. Flash and Wooki getting all the playtime :/.

Youre guaranteed to see lots of Stats next week. hold your horses
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 18 2013 04:21 GMT
#546
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.
指原莉乃 應援
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#547
lol Flash isn't happy :p
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#548
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#549
On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.

Though Flash played fine until the oracle.
I think he really underestimated Hero's aggression. His completely let down his defence completely and it cost him
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#550
On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.


I wasn't the biggest BW follower, but I remember Flash slumping in 2011 I believe when he would 14 CC every game and everyone cheesed him constantly until he stopped being so greedy.

Am I remembering that correctly?
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 18 2013 04:24 GMT
#551
On May 18 2013 13:20 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:18 StarStruck wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:15 NovemberstOrm wrote:
HerO has a 72% winrate in hots pvp record is 13-5

Pretty impressive since he started off so horribly in HoTS. IIRC he was like 0-8 overall or something to start the expansion


Even with that streak he's still a beast in PvP this is why you don't question it when he's sent out against Rain/PartinG in the ace.

6-0'd adelscott, verdi and puzzle wow beast.


Why are you only looking at his last dreamhack results? lol.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 18 2013 04:24 GMT
#552
So Hero beat Flash with cheese. Figured :p. No EGTL Protoss is beating Flash in a macro game.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 18 2013 04:24 GMT
#553
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 18 2013 04:25 GMT
#554
On May 18 2013 13:23 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.


I wasn't the biggest BW follower, but I remember Flash slumping in 2011 I believe when he would 14 CC every game and everyone cheesed him constantly until he stopped being so greedy.

Am I remembering that correctly?

No.
He would 14cc every game, everyone cheesed him, beat him
He still went 14cc, everyone still cheesed him but this time they couldnt beat him.
And cheese vs 14cc was no longer effective
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 18 2013 04:25 GMT
#555
On May 18 2013 13:23 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.

Though Flash played fine until the oracle.
I think he really underestimated Hero's aggression. His completely let down his defence completely and it cost him


He was definitely behind at that point. Really should have started his CC on the high ground.

Still, the oracle followup was pretty brilliant because at that point Flash was counting on his bunkers rather than marine numbers to hold off aggression at the front.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 18 2013 04:25 GMT
#556
On May 18 2013 13:24 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:20 StarStruck wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:19 LighT. wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:16 theMagus wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:11 poisui wrote:
Does Flash not study Hero's games? Hero cheeses like 75% of the games that I have seen from him. T_T


i don't think flash extensively studies other players' games apart from a few people. he just pretty much does his own thing haha.

Yea..pretty much..
You cheese vs Flash? 14cc
You macro vs Flash? 14cc
Standard vs Flash? 14cc
A game of Mafia? 14cc


Because he believes that he can stop it in it's tracks every time. Talk about a stubborn/confident player in his abilities.

Reminds me of Life vs Mvp in the GSL finals. Mvp goes for Blue Flame Hellion every game. Life was like fuck roaches, I can kill 12 blue flame hellions with drones and lings.

To his credit he did though...


Oh we know damn well how cocky Life lings can be.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 18 2013 04:25 GMT
#557
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 18 2013 04:26 GMT
#558
On May 18 2013 13:25 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 13:23 petered wrote:
On May 18 2013 13:21 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Greedy terrans are easy to be cheesed down these days, especiall Flash who is really excel at Macro.


I wasn't the biggest BW follower, but I remember Flash slumping in 2011 I believe when he would 14 CC every game and everyone cheesed him constantly until he stopped being so greedy.

Am I remembering that correctly?

No.
He would 14cc every game, everyone cheesed him, beat him
He still went 14cc, everyone still cheesed him but this time they couldnt beat him.
And cheese vs 14cc was no longer effective


haha, I stand corrected.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
May 18 2013 04:26 GMT
#559
Does Hero normally shake so much?
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 18 2013 04:26 GMT
#560
On May 18 2013 13:24 Havik_ wrote:
So Hero beat Flash with cheese. Figured :p. No EGTL Protoss is beating Flash in a macro game.


flash VERY rarely loses macro games from what i've seen

that's why everyone cheeses him to win
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