EPT[GSTL] LG-IM vs. PRIME 2013 Season 1 - Page 28
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Dodgin
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 18 2013 07:51 masterbreti wrote: I only posted one example of that sort of mindset. mkp was able to get away with a lot more than everyone else. stuff that wouldn't be appropriate to post on TL. But even others things like mkp being very loud in the middle of practice, doing really kinda stupid stuff and distracting others from proper practice. I think mkp more just lacks maturity, whereas someone like Creator has it in spades. Seriously Creator is one of the more hardworking players, whether that has changed I am not sure, I have not spoken to creator in a few months. mkp just doesn't worry or care about anyone else around him, I don't think he ever had that part of his brain developed. He has been in and out of teamhouses since he was like 15-16, that he forgets sometimes that this isn't his personal playhouse. Personally I was shocked as well they didn't to in house rankings and barely (if ever) practiced against each other. It was very disappointing after a few weeks i had arrived at the house, I was just left to my own devices really and had to work on my own. I wish I had went to a different house, I would have improved much faster than I did at the prime house. They don't have a practice schedule, so players either slack off (most of primes players skill declines can be attributed to this), or they work themselves too hard. If Gerrard would just hire a coach who could get everyone into a strict practice regime, it would work wonders for prime. Prime players would have less stress, and would have free time to have fun (I remember a story about this actually, Gerrard was out for the evening and Byun was playing LoL, Classic saw me watching byun play and told me that I had to keep it a secret because Gerrard would get mad if he saw anyone playing other games than starcraft). Stuff like that really is why prime won't be successful. I remember When they won the GSTL last year, I was in the house at the time. They slacked off pretty much constantly after they won, after they overworked themselves to the bone beforehand. They don't have any balance in their lives, and Gerrard take every chance he gets to save a penny, not even hiring a maid or proper cook to come around to make sure they get fresh food. Thank you for your insights. Usually I hate it when people who have no inside information make claims of "OMG Prime disbanding!", because that type of irrational fear-mongering really hurts teams. However, as someone who has lived in the Prime house, it's actually pretty amazing and interesting to hear about some of the management problems the team is having. And that does trouble me about Prime's future after hearing about your thoughts. | ||
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Rollora
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On May 17 2013 19:20 GunSec wrote: wtf i am confused, I thought maru had this win after he killed the 3rd expansion TvP doesn't work that way. Just see Parting vs Flash in Code S, where Flash was ahead by 1 or 2 bases whole time and still loses. Problem is Protoss wins if they got this one perfect engagement in mid/lategame. If Terran wins this engagement Protoss still can warp in HT and lots of chargelots to win time to get the composition back they need, which takes several times as long for the terran, that is why you should always a-move vs a terran as soon as he has lost his army, it almost always works ;-) But well in this case Maru had no eco left compared to the flash game. I was more upset about the MKP vs First game: Mkp had like 5 Upgrades (stim, combat shield, 1-1 etc) and still loses his first battle to this allin who has only (50 50 costing) gatewaytech behind. I think TvP is getting more and more boring, even below thel evels of PvZ in WoL On May 17 2013 20:13 teddyoojo wrote: it SHOULDNT have mattered u dont need ghosts when u are 60 supply up it just made no sense this is TvP  Its a game of counters, and if you don't have the counters to storm... well in sc2 you insta-lose. I hate it too, but this is how the game is designed and it is considered "balanced" cause there is a counter possible to it. Doesn't matter if countering one unit is several times harder (and doesnt kill, like EMP vs Storms) as using the unit it counters On May 17 2013 20:23 teddyoojo wrote: wtf kind of gg timing is that? 70 to 90 army supply u can still try in tvP when your economy is murdered and the protoss sees you coming? He just warps in lots of units and moves over you as if you never existed. Plus: first could always warp in in at the back of Byuns base. On May 17 2013 22:02 mechengineer123 wrote: but terran is op, right? or have we moved on? Stop jocking Terran will always be considered OP cause there are always two other races that complain (and ofc its the other way around with their races).But what terran is missing is a good counter to these Protoss lategame deathballs with storms. | ||
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Rollora
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On May 17 2013 19:24 KingOfNoodles wrote: He pulled like 40 scvs for that attack, and they all died. As Khaldor and Wolf said, it was 11 scvs vs 60 probes wolf actually did the math and said it is 2 scvs :D well he counted 1 + 1 or so ;-) | ||
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Rollora
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On May 17 2013 19:42 trwkling wrote: It's truly depressing to be an MKP fan these days it was like this before: MKP showed up with incredible micro at the beginning of gsl abou 2010 or 11 i think, at least that is when he got into my attention. Shortly after that he lost and lost and lost lots of games, due to stupid marine only instead of good composition games. He came back and was at first the runner-up-champion, later he won MLG, so there are 2 possible things: either he doesn't feel well/happy anymore (maybe with the team or sc2 in general) or he comes back like before | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17726 Posts
On May 18 2013 08:18 Bagration wrote: Thank you for your insights. Usually I hate it when people who have no inside information make claims of "OMG Prime disbanding!", because that type of irrational fear-mongering really hurts teams. However, as someone who has lived in the Prime house, it's actually pretty amazing and interesting to hear about some of the management problems the team is having. And that does trouble me about Prime's future after hearing about your thoughts. This is so sad, I want Prime to be bought by a proper team. Maybe FXO since they're a pretty small team too. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 18 2013 17:39 slowbacontron wrote: Poor opterown, I'm sure he can't be happy hearing this stuff about his favorite players. i already know this haha | ||
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opterown
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