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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12193 Posts
May 16 2013 09:51 GMT
#541
On May 16 2013 18:49 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:47 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone else noticing that innvoation goes mass marines/window mines every game vs. zerg? I would think roro would watch his replays and not go for the build that mass marines/wm counters.


(I'm not saying it's broken, I'm just saying it's a solid build that doesn't outright get "countered" by something)


Which is a diplomatic way of saying the same thing, btw.
No will to live, no wish to die
Decendos
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1338 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#542
why does he go pool first vs no gas proxy? its way better to go hatch first imo
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#543
On May 16 2013 18:51 nkr wrote:
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On May 16 2013 18:50 JazVM wrote:
I dont know why people call it "overhyping" anyway. He looks completely unbeatable.


it's easier to hate than to love

QFT! irelevant from context
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#544
On May 16 2013 18:50 Insoleet wrote:
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On May 16 2013 18:49 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 Foxxan wrote:
bad decision with spire imo, just go for more upgrade and get speedupg for banes, and mass those things for a while, his eco was good....


Yeah, that's what he did, and that's why he lost.

He had the speed upgrade and he wasted all his gas on upgrades that didn't help him in that fight. If he'd have spent that 300-400 gas on Mutas, he would have cleaned that up.

I know it's really impossible to make a long-term (upgrades) vs short-term (3-4 mutas) decision in the moment, but in this case, one was a game loss.


Muta wouldnt have helped lol

4 muta against a drop ? Against marine medivac mine ? -.-

He just needed a faster lair for faster banespeed. Maybe lair before melee upgrade would have been a good idea.


He was way behind and had to gamble. Innovation didn't do the standard 3CC follow up to the 2rax and consequently Roros ecogamble fell apart.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#545
On May 16 2013 18:51 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:50 JazVM wrote:
I dont know why people call it "overhyping" anyway. He looks completely unbeatable.


it's easier to hate than to love


Spoken like a true EG fan

Innovation looks unbeatable in his current form, at least in TvZ. Better hope Bomber wins to at least bring a different matchup to the table because I don't see Symbol or Soulkey taking games off this slayer of champion nerds.
In Inca we trust
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#546
Omg I can't stand up. Everyone's gonna see the boner Innovation just gave me.
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#547
On May 16 2013 18:46 [Silverflame] wrote:
Innovation is Innovation. This is not Terran! Pls Blizzard this is not the truth. ;D


There's nothing to be ashamed of when good players are winning.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#548
On May 16 2013 18:50 Elroi wrote:
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On May 16 2013 18:47 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:44 Tsubbi wrote:
best zerg vs best terran, total stomp lol


Quit your balance whining, Roro is not the best Zerg. That's Life, with Roro and Soulkey trailing. And Roro's TvZ looked lacklustre (as much as that was possible) in WoL.

you saw what he did to life? Anyway, I think Soulkey is the best bet for a zerg to beat Bogus.

Life has spoken about those games and from the sound of it, it's not his optimal play. He DID play worse that he has. His ZvT has been fixed afaik.
The Bomber boy
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#549
oh wtf? It's nearing the 1hr mark and Bogus hasn't 3-0'd RorO yet? Pick up the pace yo!

Thought I could wake up to Bomber vs Symbol and skip the stomp :p
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syno
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland150 Posts
May 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#550
On May 16 2013 18:50 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I hope Soulkey will not lose to sOs because he can win vs Innovation in finals.

So can sOs.
He stomped Innovation before.
Good Brain
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
May 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#551
On May 16 2013 18:50 McBengt wrote:
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On May 16 2013 18:48 Brett wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 McBengt wrote:
First I would like congratulate Innovation on being probably the best terran in the world, if not just the best player straight up.

Secondly I would like to congratulate twitch on being more shit than I believed to be possible, surpassing even justintv in sheer shitness.

Watch on Gom. I've got zero issues.


I am, with the terrible resolution that follows. Just annyoing that twitch can't get their shit together for one day. It's not like an isolated incident, it's been beyond terrible every day for weeks now.


Twitch has been fine for me all the time up to today
and the GOM resolution is fine/better than twitch for me
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#552
On May 16 2013 18:52 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:51 nkr wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:50 JazVM wrote:
I dont know why people call it "overhyping" anyway. He looks completely unbeatable.


it's easier to hate than to love


Spoken like a true EG fan

Innovation looks unbeatable in his current form, at least in TvZ. Better hope Bomber wins to at least bring a different matchup to the table because I don't see Symbol or Soulkey taking games off this slayer of champion nerds.


Fun fact so far is that the 1 tvz that innovation has lost in hots in official games so far is to soulkey. I think soulkey has a chance versus innovation, any other zerg right now doesn't seem like it.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#553
On May 16 2013 18:52 Decendos wrote:
why does he go pool first vs no gas proxy? its way better to go hatch first imo


yeah, that one I didn't get, and the proxy hatch was also quite stupid, as Innovation was just like "poke up-->Not enough stuff, there is something fishy--> scout--> there it is"
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2876 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#554
On May 16 2013 18:52 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:50 Insoleet wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:49 dcemuser wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 Foxxan wrote:
bad decision with spire imo, just go for more upgrade and get speedupg for banes, and mass those things for a while, his eco was good....


Yeah, that's what he did, and that's why he lost.

He had the speed upgrade and he wasted all his gas on upgrades that didn't help him in that fight. If he'd have spent that 300-400 gas on Mutas, he would have cleaned that up.

I know it's really impossible to make a long-term (upgrades) vs short-term (3-4 mutas) decision in the moment, but in this case, one was a game loss.


Muta wouldnt have helped lol

4 muta against a drop ? Against marine medivac mine ? -.-

He just needed a faster lair for faster banespeed. Maybe lair before melee upgrade would have been a good idea.


He was way behind and had to gamble. Innovation didn't do the standard 3CC follow up to the 2rax and consequently Roros ecogamble fell apart.


precisely. you have to take those risks as roro in that position. if innovation just sat back for a big explosion and roro wasn't preparing for THAT, he would've gotten stomped even harder.
aka wilted_kale
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#555
On May 16 2013 18:50 Brett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:48 EpiK wrote:
why are people complaining about tasteless's overhyping. Artosis does it all the time. At least innovation deserves it.

Yeah, people are complaining more tonight (when it's actually warranted) than they have back in the Nestea days when he was getting swept in every series but hyped to all hell.... Odd.

Well with Nestea it was just a funny nickname, here it is actually claiming someone is the best ever. You can say it once if you want, but god dam it gets obnoxious after a while.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#556
On May 16 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:50 Elroi wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:44 Tsubbi wrote:
best zerg vs best terran, total stomp lol


Quit your balance whining, Roro is not the best Zerg. That's Life, with Roro and Soulkey trailing. And Roro's TvZ looked lacklustre (as much as that was possible) in WoL.

you saw what he did to life? Anyway, I think Soulkey is the best bet for a zerg to beat Bogus.

Life has spoken about those games and from the sound of it, it's not his optimal play. He DID play worse that he has. His ZvT has been fixed afaik.

I guess we'll see eventually, but innovation would be the clear favorite in my eyes at least.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#557
On May 16 2013 18:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:49 Cereb wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 Sc2Null wrote:
anyone else noticing that innvoation goes mass marines/window mines every game vs. zerg? I would think roro would watch his replays and not go for the build that mass marines/wm counters.


(I'm not saying it's broken, I'm just saying it's a solid build that doesn't outright get "countered" by something)


Which is a diplomatic way of saying the same thing, btw.

no it's not, as long as it has builds that trade evenly with it then it's fine, if every build had a counter then we would never see close games lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#558
On May 16 2013 18:53 syno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:50 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I hope Soulkey will not lose to sOs because he can win vs Innovation in finals.

So can sOs.
He stomped Innovation before.


Not to mention that Innovation is very beatable in TvP.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#559
Innovation looks very scary at the moment, but the most unbeatable player award still goes to Squirtle from S2 of 2012. 14 game win streak, killed everyone, and then ran into broken man Mvp who used his experience to beat him.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#560
On May 16 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 18:50 Elroi wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:47 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 16 2013 18:44 Tsubbi wrote:
best zerg vs best terran, total stomp lol


Quit your balance whining, Roro is not the best Zerg. That's Life, with Roro and Soulkey trailing. And Roro's TvZ looked lacklustre (as much as that was possible) in WoL.

you saw what he did to life? Anyway, I think Soulkey is the best bet for a zerg to beat Bogus.

Life has spoken about those games and from the sound of it, it's not his optimal play. He DID play worse that he has. His ZvT has been fixed afaik.


He's not going to come out and say "I played my best" after losing 2-0. Don't read into him saying 'I didn't play well' too much.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
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