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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
May 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#821
On May 05 2013 07:38 gamerdude12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.


Maybe she realizes the stupidity of MLG's decision and wants the make the right choice. that's what I would do in her place. we really do need more people like her in esports


MLG's mistake was stupid, but the decision itself I think is pretty ambiguous and up for debate
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#822
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.

it's like the first time they try to solve an admin issue they fucked up themselves

like the Chinese players who got told by an admin they were in the brackets and weren't, countless of players at offline MLGs who got told the wrong times to show up and got a default loss

it'd be as if they told the people who got knocked out by Hyun in the Premier qualifiers to play their bracket again, as if they had replayed the whole bracket after they DQed Comm, etc.

no matter how they decide, it isn't consistent at all
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#823
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.


Not really. As she might think mija has better chances in lower bracket then moosegrill
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revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
May 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#824
TaeJa's micro is just too good. Also hendralisk going Leeroy Jenkins time after time didn't help at all.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#825
On May 05 2013 07:38 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:36 Bagration wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I don't see why the casters are saying TaeJa is behind despite holding off an all-in so smoothly.


Right when the all in finished, the worker count was 17 to 40+.

To clarify, my previous post refers more to the latter parts of the game after the Roach/Bane all-in. TaeJa held his third and was ahead in upgrades, yet the casters would occasionally say TaeJa was behind in some aspects despite only having a small deficit in worker numbers.


ah, makes sense. I agree that taeja caught up fairly quickly and I was confident he was giong to win long before the casters were. The key moment to me was when hendra sent only a fraction of his army to defend his third, thinking taeja was going to drop everywhere. Instead that small group of marines ended taking out an easy 30 supply or so forcing hendra to keep making units rather than solidify his advantage with tech and more economy. Really poor play by him imo, but still highlights just how insanely good taeja is.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#826
On May 05 2013 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:38 gamerdude12345 wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.


Maybe she realizes the stupidity of MLG's decision and wants the make the right choice. that's what I would do in her place. we really do need more people like her in esports


MLG's mistake was stupid, but the decision itself I think is pretty ambiguous and up for debate

These mistakes shouldn't be happening in the first place such amateurish ones too -_-
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trudodyr
Profile Joined March 2011
182 Posts
May 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#827
On May 05 2013 07:40 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:37 Mouzone wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:36 Jknighty wrote:
Wait is Genna Miya's team manager? If so and she made Miya drop to loser's that's totally bawler.


When MLG can't make the right call more sensible people have to step up. Props to her.

Tbh I really don't agree with people here, that is to say one call was the right one. Here I am assuming that MLG admins told Miya the wrong time(and it wasn't his mistake at all), but if so you just have to decide who to fuck over, Miya or Moosegills, Sasq. and Demu. A terrible decision to make, but quite frankly I think the worst decision you can make is to let non-admin make it.

If they're going down the Comm route again, Miya should get DQed.
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#828
On May 05 2013 07:41 revoN wrote:
TaeJa's micro is just too good. Also hendralisk going Leeroy Jenkins time after time didn't help at all.

What does the second part of your sig say? (after Quake)
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#829
Taeja said that he got injured on his wrist but he could still played so well. I strongly suspect that he doesn't put his heart on SPL cuz EG has no chance to go play-offs, and he could concentrate all to his own game.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#830
Come on MLG, can't believe we're having another administrative fuck-up.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#831
Im still waiting for plainsix to defend MLG again^^
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1111 Posts
May 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#832
On May 05 2013 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:38 gamerdude12345 wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.


Maybe she realizes the stupidity of MLG's decision and wants the make the right choice. that's what I would do in her place. we really do need more people like her in esports


MLG's mistake was stupid, but the decision itself I think is pretty ambiguous and up for debate


How though?
Demu and Moose had already started there Bo3... if the admin was the cause of the problem, you deal with that admin and give Moose the bye... it's pretty ridiculous to deal with it in any other way
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
May 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#833
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.

The community is very anti-Korean now because of Blizzard. Maybe she just doesn't want the anger being misdirected at her player.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
May 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#834
This is the worst game to cast out of all the winners round 3 games.... lol
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#835
On May 05 2013 07:41 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:38 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:36 Bagration wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I don't see why the casters are saying TaeJa is behind despite holding off an all-in so smoothly.


Right when the all in finished, the worker count was 17 to 40+.

To clarify, my previous post refers more to the latter parts of the game after the Roach/Bane all-in. TaeJa held his third and was ahead in upgrades, yet the casters would occasionally say TaeJa was behind in some aspects despite only having a small deficit in worker numbers.


ah, makes sense. I agree that taeja caught up fairly quickly and I was confident he was giong to win long before the casters were. The key moment to me was when hendra sent only a fraction of his army to defend his third, thinking taeja was going to drop everywhere. Instead that small group of marines ended taking out an easy 30 supply or so forcing hendra to keep making units rather than solidify his advantage with tech and more economy. Really poor play by him imo, but still highlights just how insanely good taeja is.

It wasn't really poor play by Hendralisk but a brilliant one by Taeja. He sent his medivacs north while Hendralisk had vision of them and then when he didn't he quickly turned around and assaulted the 3rd again. Hendralisk's move was quite logical, and in that situation it was really the best option he had.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#836
On May 05 2013 07:41 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:38 gamerdude12345 wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:37 Waxangel wrote:
dunno if the miya-demu thing is clear cut at all

if it was MLG's fault that Miya was late, then I can see how they think it's the fairest solution to let him in late

very complex issue!

perplexing that Genna would not take her player's side tho, giving your players near unconditional support publically is like a given in most sports. I feel like there's some info we are missing regarding the circumstances.


Maybe she realizes the stupidity of MLG's decision and wants the make the right choice. that's what I would do in her place. we really do need more people like her in esports


MLG's mistake was stupid, but the decision itself I think is pretty ambiguous and up for debate

could turn out as a good PR move though. Consider this. They have Miya drop down so people are happy about that. Then Miya could still qualify if he manages to beat KawaiiRice and Top. Maybe they assume Miya could qualify anyways and it wont matter + good publicity? It's a risk because Miya could lose, but I feel like it could be a small possibility.
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revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#837
On May 05 2013 07:42 Yorke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:41 revoN wrote:
TaeJa's micro is just too good. Also hendralisk going Leeroy Jenkins time after time didn't help at all.

What does the second part of your sig say? (after Quake)

It means that I like Quake & StarCraft.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#838
It'd be cool if they had someone give a statement about the issues at hand on stream but it seems like the stream production is just about completely disconnected from the administrative side of things.

Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#839
On May 05 2013 07:44 revoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 07:42 Yorke wrote:
On May 05 2013 07:41 revoN wrote:
TaeJa's micro is just too good. Also hendralisk going Leeroy Jenkins time after time didn't help at all.

What does the second part of your sig say? (after Quake)

It means that I like Quake & StarCraft.

Wooo! Respect
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
May 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#840
On May 05 2013 07:42 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Taeja said that he got injured on his wrist but he could still played so well. I strongly suspect that he doesn't put his heart on SPL cuz EG has no chance to go play-offs, and he could concentrate all to his own game.

he doesn't have ANY reason NOT to play in SPL as he basically dropped out of GSL.
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