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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 05 2013 19:27 GMT
#941
wow... history repeats itself.. braveheart!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
May 05 2013 19:27 GMT
#942
Wow Tails just all-inning every game or what? I'm a bit disappointed that he thinks that's his best bet :/
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
May 05 2013 19:30 GMT
#943
with the kind of lag he potentially has to deal it's understandable.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 19:31:36
May 05 2013 19:31 GMT
#944
On May 06 2013 04:27 Ameisenmann wrote:
Wow Tails just all-inning every game or what? I'm a bit disappointed that he thinks that's his best bet :/

prob wants to qualify as fast as possible and go to sleep ^^
yo
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
May 05 2013 19:33 GMT
#945
On May 06 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
with the kind of lag he potentially has to deal it's understandable.

I suppose, however you could also argue against that; an all-in like that relies quite a lot on micro (unit control / force fields), which is much harder with lag. I would say just playing a solid game and just out macro your opponent with superior mechanics should be easier with lag, as it relies less on micro.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 05 2013 19:34 GMT
#946
On May 06 2013 04:33 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
with the kind of lag he potentially has to deal it's understandable.

I suppose, however you could also argue against that; an all-in like that relies quite a lot on micro (unit control / force fields), which is much harder with lag. I would say just playing a solid game and just out macro your opponent with superior mechanics should be easier with lag, as it relies less on micro.

That would be my thinking too. But I think that he tried to make an excuse.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#947
Not really, tails is really creative and tries lots of stuff. I like him as a creative genius
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Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
May 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#948
something muta centric might be good for recco, tails playing very very light antiair in his pvzs today.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 05 2013 19:38 GMT
#949
I'm suffering from severe lag over here. Just me or are you guys also getting some?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
May 05 2013 19:38 GMT
#950
On May 06 2013 04:33 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
with the kind of lag he potentially has to deal it's understandable.

I suppose, however you could also argue against that; an all-in like that relies quite a lot on micro (unit control / force fields), which is much harder with lag. I would say just playing a solid game and just out macro your opponent with superior mechanics should be easier with lag, as it relies less on micro.


Valid point, though a macro game against a Zerg who is infamous for his muta play, dunno if that's all that much fun to face especially on that map. But the game was sort of over as soon as the first zerglings got in. He lost so many probes in the beginning and then the surround with the lings next to the third sealed the deal.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 05 2013 19:40 GMT
#951
On May 06 2013 04:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I'm suffering from severe lag over here. Just me or are you guys also getting some?

No problems here. How can a Swede have internet lag??
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
May 05 2013 19:42 GMT
#952
now that's the sort of damage he has to do to make his 2 base push work
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 05 2013 19:42 GMT
#953
On May 06 2013 04:40 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I'm suffering from severe lag over here. Just me or are you guys also getting some?

No problems here. How can a Swede have internet lag??


I know right? Looks like I'm gonna have to blame the Germans then.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 05 2013 19:43 GMT
#954
On May 06 2013 04:38 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:33 dani` wrote:
On May 06 2013 04:30 Doublemint wrote:
with the kind of lag he potentially has to deal it's understandable.

I suppose, however you could also argue against that; an all-in like that relies quite a lot on micro (unit control / force fields), which is much harder with lag. I would say just playing a solid game and just out macro your opponent with superior mechanics should be easier with lag, as it relies less on micro.


Valid point, though a macro game against a Zerg who is infamous for his muta play, dunno if that's all that much fun to face especially on that map. But the game was sort of over as soon as the first zerglings got in. He lost so many probes in the beginning and then the surround with the lings next to the third sealed the deal.

In the context of the first game, you are right, macro could be a bad option from a strategic point of view. But in general, you would think that with the lag it is easier to control the deathball than, for example, try to warp prism-immortal micro when going for all-in.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 19:44:11
May 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#955
tails building a third after he has won the game is pretty funny though
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#956
On May 06 2013 04:44 Tayar wrote:
tails building a third after he has won the game is pretty funny though

I guess it is meant as a manner nexus
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#957
On May 06 2013 04:44 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:44 Tayar wrote:
tails building a third after he has won the game is pretty funny though

I guess it is meant as a manner nexus

Nooo, he just opted for really safe third.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
May 05 2013 19:45 GMT
#958
On May 06 2013 04:44 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 04:44 Tayar wrote:
tails building a third after he has won the game is pretty funny though

I guess it is meant as a manner nexus

nah he just fulfilled someone's wish from before who criticized and said "no third!" ^^
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 19:47:16
May 05 2013 19:45 GMT
#959
On May 06 2013 04:15 Ace Frehley wrote:
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On May 06 2013 04:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 06 2013 04:03 Ace Frehley wrote:
On May 06 2013 03:55 Xoronius wrote:
On May 06 2013 03:46 namste wrote:
On May 06 2013 03:44 Philozovic wrote:
Today Europ did not fall. Final and tails needed 6 qualifiers to finally made it through and that despite that :
1) All the top tier European players were in Code S already.
2) The amount of second tier player was smaller everytime because once they qualified they didn't need to make it twice.


Not only WCS qualifier were a succes but DH was quite impressive too from 16 Korean at the start only 7 made it in RO16.

Europe stand taller then ever and will not back down to low second tier Korean pro


Not to poop on you but the main reason of only 7 Koreans in RO16 was the fact that Koreans had to play each other on their way.. But still you have a point with everything else!

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I´d say group stages went ok for Europe.

But in the end, 6 koreans in the top8
Wouldn't call that europe holding


and Europe had a guy in the finals that lost in a close 2-3. Europe does - in fact - hold. If you somehow think MC shouldn't make it through the CHALLENGER qualifier, I don't see what you expect from Europe? I think MC wouldn't have qualified from the premier league qualifier but the challenger league, I mean Europe is very good and has a high average level, but MC was Code S and is still very good. Imagine how someone like MC would go through the tier 2 or 3 of NA, lol.

Also: Tails is not through yet.


PS: I think we can stop that stupid change the Korean flag to another nation shit for Europe. No one in Europe is crying about the Koreans.


One guy making the finals doesn't make up for the whole rest failing, Europe had the numbers and didn't make it count

Such a difference of 6/8 to 2/8 in the top8

Not to mention the caliber of the korean players was not even that high (Coca an Puzzle coming from LoL; Hyun, Hero and Jaedong running from Korea to NA because they can't hold in Korea anymore)

And I'm talking about Dreamhack, not these qualifiers


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On May 06 2013 04:09 Philozovic wrote:
Leenock, Gumhio, Jaedong, Hyun that could be a Code S final four no shame to loose to them.


LOL
Hyun and Jaedong were struggling yesterday to get in Code A of WCS NA (and hyun failed)


Jaedong is 5-5 in proleague all of is loss comming from ZvP where he sucks and from bogus. And verdi was the weakest of all Ro16 no disrespect and he beat gumhio godly TvZ after that.
Hyun won against naniwa-yugi-oh MC Puzzle elfi and Ziktomini in group stage and was beaten by sage yesterday. Maybe not as strong as 6 month ago but he is still a very strong korean zerg.
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 19:47:26
May 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#960
Oups sorry
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