EPT[WCS EU] Challenger League Qualifiers - Page 47
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On May 06 2013 03:55 Xoronius wrote: + Show Spoiler + XLord > JYP TLO > JYP Sase > Jaedong Nerchio > Coca Bischu > Zenio White-Ra > MC Lucifronn = Strelok = YugiOh TLO > ForGG Sase > ForGG Nerchio > ForGG Kas > Zenio Kas > HerO Huk > Polt Grubby > Polt SortOf > Center Naniwa > MC Naniwa > YugiOh Ret > Sage I´d say group stages went ok for Europe. But in the end, 6 koreans in the top8 Wouldn't call that europe holding | ||
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
Germany invading countries again | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:03 Ace Frehley wrote: But in the end, 6 koreans in the top8 Wouldn't call that europe holding and Europe had a guy in the finals that lost in a close 2-3. Europe does - in fact - hold. If you somehow think MC shouldn't make it through the CHALLENGER qualifier, I don't see what you expect from Europe? I think MC wouldn't have qualified from the premier league qualifier but the challenger league, I mean Europe is very good and has a high average level, but MC was Code S and is still very good. Imagine how someone like MC would go through the tier 2 or 3 of NA, lol. Also: Tails is not through yet. PS: I think we can stop that stupid change the Korean flag to another nation shit for Europe. No one in Europe is crying about the Koreans. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
Puzzle vs Hero : Well no european could have won that one Stephano vs Coca was close, he lost 2-0 but first game 15s too late muta made him lost to a roach gling push gg nice baneling war at the beginning and second game he was way ahead and lost every muta to a good place fungal  Then nani made europe proud (but leenock still won cauz' he is way to awesome and good to lost game against someone who is not life). | ||
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govie
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:10 govie wrote: I am proud that my fellow EU-ers did well against the koreans so far. But i also like that MVP, MC etc are playing in EU. So long that EU can win some games, i like it! I really like competition. Europeans will work together and prepare builds for Koreans, especially in PvT and PvP we have excellent players. MaNa can beat MVP offline, online.. everywhere. MC can fall to every good Protoss in EU. They obviously are very good, but I would dare to say that in some matches, the Korean in Europe is by no means favorite. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:10 AlternativeEgo wrote: It's up to the Scotsman. from meh arse :shock: | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:12 Type|NarutO wrote: I really like competition. Europeans will work together and prepare builds for Koreans, especially in PvT and PvP we have excellent players. MaNa can beat MVP offline, online.. everywhere. MC can fall to every good Protoss in EU. They obviously are very good, but I would dare to say that in some matches, the Korean in Europe is by no means favorite. Also mech in PvT in EU is really strong. U dont see that in other regions as much. EU/Russia has its own playstyles that are fun to watch | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:07 Type|NarutO wrote: and Europe had a guy in the finals that lost in a close 2-3. Europe does - in fact - hold. If you somehow think MC shouldn't make it through the CHALLENGER qualifier, I don't see what you expect from Europe? I think MC wouldn't have qualified from the premier league qualifier but the challenger league, I mean Europe is very good and has a high average level, but MC was Code S and is still very good. Imagine how someone like MC would go through the tier 2 or 3 of NA, lol. Also: Tails is not through yet. PS: I think we can stop that stupid change the Korean flag to another nation shit for Europe. No one in Europe is crying about the Koreans. One guy making the finals doesn't make up for the whole rest failing, Europe had the numbers and didn't make it count Such a difference of 6/8 to 2/8 in the top8 Not to mention the caliber of the korean players was not even that high (Coca an Puzzle coming from LoL; Hyun, Hero and Jaedong running from Korea to NA because they can't hold in Korea anymore) And I'm talking about Dreamhack, not these qualifiers On May 06 2013 04:09 Philozovic wrote: Leenock, Gumhio, Jaedong, Hyun that could be a Code S final four no shame to loose to them. LOL Hyun and Jaedong were struggling yesterday to get in Code A of WCS NA (and hyun failed) | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:15 Ace Frehley wrote: One guy making the finals doesn't make up for the whole rest failing, Europe had the numbers and didn't make it count Such a difference of 6/8 to 2/8 in the top8 Not to mention the caliber of the korean players was not even that high (Coca an Puzzle coming from LoL; Hyun, Hero and Jaedong running from Korea to NA because they can't hold in Korea anymore) And I'm talking about Dreamhack, not these qualifiers u sound very mad to me plz stick to pms, this thread is about eu qual, dreamhack is over | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:20 Killmouse wrote: u sound very mad to me plz stick to pms, this thread is about eu qual, dreamhack is overI didn't mean to sound aggressive Sorry if I did Just saying my view | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:15 Ace Frehley wrote: One guy making the finals doesn't make up for the whole rest failing, Europe had the numbers and didn't make it count Such a difference of 6/8 to 2/8 in the top8 Not to mention the caliber of the korean players was not even that high (Coca an Puzzle coming from LoL; Hyun, Hero and Jaedong running from Korea to NA because they can't hold in Korea anymore) And I'm talking about Dreamhack, not these qualifiers Its really tiring to argue with people that seem to either have no clue or not look into details of the tournament. Stephano lost in his weakest match up against CoCa who yes, comes from LoL but was a very good player before that. Benefit of the doubt to you Europefail: 1 Grubby lost to Leenock who went on and beat CoCa and HerO pretty handily and NaNiWa. Leenock is amazing even in Korea and that should not be considered failing! To be fair, my point right? SaSe lost to former GSL Champion HyuN. While HyuN sometimes seems to be shaky, he's an excellent player and high calibre. Losing to him especially in PvZ is no shame. He murdered Naniwa, MC, Puzzle all beforehand. My point again I guess. Kas/TLO both lost to foreign players. Naniwa and SortOf. SortOf went on and lost to Naniwa. That makes 3 EU players that knocked out each other. HuK is no EU player, thus I didn't count him in the 8 players I mentioned. (he was the 9th). Verdi is good in PvP and has some sneeky builds, he kicked MaNa out of the tournament which is bad luck, but you can say without insulting Jaedong, that MaNa could have given him a run for his money and I dare to say that he could have given GuMiHo a good run for his money as well, but as it stands, verdi failed after beating good players. Your point. From that point, NaNiWa was left and beat Jaedong to enter the finals and lost 2-3 to Leenock there. From my point of view and I think many would agree, Europe didn't really fail there but Korea had some outstanding players there. No one is arguing that the Koreans are high-end if it comes to Starcraft, but simply saying Europe cannot stand its ground against the lower-tier is stupid. Europefails: 2 Koreans outstanding: 2 Europekills: 3 Europe outstanding: Naniwa | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8670 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:25 Tayar wrote: does tails know that you can build more than two nexus? why? he built a third but just felt like cancelling it ;P Good game by Jrecco, very solid play. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:25 Tayar wrote: does tails know that you can build more than two nexus? I never see him go beyond 2 nexus much | ||
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