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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 24 2013 18:16 GMT
#681
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.

Lucifron is going to win WCS EU vs Sase in the finals.
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Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
April 24 2013 18:17 GMT
#682
On April 25 2013 03:14 HereBeDragons wrote:
ToD and Kaelaris seems to be looking at each other more than the camera for some reason

Lol, another bromance just like K9.
Someone must find a name for kaeleris and tod. Tod Lannister?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 24 2013 18:17 GMT
#683
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 24 2013 18:17 GMT
#684
I'm terrified to the imminent Happy vs. Hasu games. We could be here until the weekend.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 24 2013 18:17 GMT
#685
On April 25 2013 03:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.

Lucifron is going to win WCS EU vs Sase in the finals.


Dont count out naniwa :>

And even TLO has a decent shot to make it far in this tourney.
love esports - hate homophobia
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#686
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.

Meh, I think Luci is better than those two atm, Happy might be, too, not sure.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#687
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.

They all have shown the skill to overtake lucifron but at this moment they're not living up to it. Also demuslim trying to get through wcs Korea 2.0 while he got close was probably too ambitous.
Glorious SEA doto
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
April 24 2013 18:19 GMT
#688
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.


Except that Demuslim hasnt proved himself outside of ladder for I dont know how long.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:19:57
April 24 2013 18:19 GMT
#689
On April 25 2013 03:18 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.

Meh, I think Luci is better than those two atm, Happy might be, too, not sure.

What about Kas? I dont follow the EU scene very well. How has he looked lately?
On April 25 2013 03:19 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.


Except that Demuslim hasnt proved himself outside of ladder for I dont know how long.

Demuslim > Jaedong
Jaedong > Flash
Demuslim >> Flash
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 24 2013 18:19 GMT
#690
On April 25 2013 03:17 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.

Lucifron is going to win WCS EU vs Sase in the finals.


Dont count out naniwa :>

And even TLO has a decent shot to make it far in this tourney.


TLO bracket curse.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#691
On April 25 2013 03:17 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.

Lucifron is going to win WCS EU vs Sase in the finals.


Dont count out naniwa :>

And even TLO has a decent shot to make it far in this tourney.


Also, don't forget Mvp.
greenknight999
Profile Joined January 2012
69 Posts
April 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#692
On April 25 2013 03:13 Derez wrote:
I think quite a few of the invited players in NA/EU are going to have major issues hanging on even in challenger league.


I went through the EU list a few times and struggled to find who you're referring to, any hints?

Obviously Idra/Hellokitty are going to crash and burn badly in NA.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 18:21:15
April 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#693
On April 25 2013 03:18 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.

Meh, I think Luci is better than those two atm, Happy might be, too, not sure.


as much i love Tzain he doest have the same level in a period of time, he has high lvl play one day and a bad the next one while Luci is constant in a high level play

maybe Demu could do something but imo lucis plays is better but not too much
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#694
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.


I think lucifron is comfortably better than both those players, especially Thorzain. Faster, better macro, very good micro. And we've seen him come up with some very creative and effective builds lately, which is a Thorzain strength, along with his patience and decision making, but I think lucifron is more solid overall.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 24 2013 18:21 GMT
#695
Best foreinger ever is naniwa (yeah, i know it sux ). This because he went r08 in gsl... nobody, not even the big stephano has topped that.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#696
On April 25 2013 03:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:18 StarVe wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.

Meh, I think Luci is better than those two atm, Happy might be, too, not sure.

What about Kas? I dont follow the EU scene very well. How has he looked lately?

I don't know, he's still top five on ladder almost all the time, haven't seen him play in ages either, can't judge him really. We'll see at DH Stockholm and in his WCS group.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 24 2013 18:22 GMT
#697
On April 25 2013 03:21 govie wrote:
Best foreinger ever is naniwa (yeah, i know it sux ). This because he went r08 in gsl... nobody, not even the big stephano has topped that.


If GSL is what matters, then Jinro is our champion.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
April 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#698
On April 25 2013 03:20 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:17 govie wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
On April 25 2013 03:12 Treetime wrote:
Lucifron just the better player. Maybe the best european terran at the moment.

Probably true haven't seen any terran perform up to his standards atm. Thorzain and ForGG (I invoke the law of violet and dub him French) could overtake him but right now he's easily the best.


thorzain, demu, lucifron are at same level for sure.. not much difference in skilllevel.


I think lucifron is comfortably better than both those players, especially Thorzain. Faster, better macro, very good micro. And we've seen him come up with some very creative and effective builds lately, which is a Thorzain strength, along with his patience and decision making, but I think lucifron is more solid overall.


If Thorzain continue to play like he did last sunday in a swedish cup against Sase, then he will be the best foreign terran this year. His issue is motivation though so it is a big if.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#699
ppl shouldnt forget that Bly had pretty good games against flash at mlg !
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 24 2013 18:23 GMT
#700
On April 25 2013 03:22 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 03:21 govie wrote:
Best foreinger ever is naniwa (yeah, i know it sux ). This because he went r08 in gsl... nobody, not even the big stephano has topped that.


If GSL is what matters, then Jinro is our champion.


didnt know that!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
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