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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
April 22 2013 01:54 GMT
#5181
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.

i hope they go down hard on this.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5182
On April 22 2013 10:54 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:53 Cayn wrote:
welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence

Come on now, we can be pissed at mlg without hyperbolic nationalism.

Thanks for the translation. I read that twice and had no clue.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5183
Are the (spoiled) results going to come today? Or have they blocked them?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:56:52
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5184
On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.

i hope they go down hard on this.


Never going to happen.

edit: I take it back
Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5185
On April 22 2013 10:54 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:53 Cayn wrote:
welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence

Come on now, we can be pissed at mlg without hyperbolic nationalism.


no nationalism pun intented sry just wanted to make a point that there might be little bit to much fear from mlg
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:57:33
April 22 2013 01:56 GMT
#5186
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
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On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.


I can only speak for myself but i was not very interested in the NA tournament before anyway now the interest has gone done to zero. Not going to watch any of it . Not worth staying up for it. MLG production value isn't even all that great though it gets hyped by so many people. Sure it looks nice but the actual content is not that great.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 22 2013 01:56 GMT
#5187
On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.

i hope they go down hard on this.


Never going to happen.


Happening :O
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5188
On April 22 2013 10:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.

i hope they go down hard on this.


Never going to happen.


Happening :O


see edit :O
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5189
not going to lie, kind of sad to see players with a lower rank than myself get a chance to play but some of the best players sitting out.
illusiongamer
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico377 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5190
On April 22 2013 10:45 Bowzar wrote:
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On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote:
I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up.


All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all.


HwangSin has spoken
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859&currentpage=18

"I'm such a fan of hooking" - Kaci Aitchison TI2013
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5191
On April 22 2013 10:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.

i hope they go down hard on this.


Never going to happen.


Happening :O


see edit :O

Pulling zero punches :O

Imagine if they casted from replays and didn't catch Hyun or the hacker until then :O
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 22 2013 01:59 GMT
#5192
NASL got every right to rip MLG apart especially since they could have done a much much better job
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 22 2013 02:00 GMT
#5193
Shit is going down at NASL haha :D
No holding back
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5194
It'd be really awesome to see NASL getting more viewers than WCS while they're both airing currently.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5195
Haha I love NASL for being so direct about this. Kevin and Ben are really upset and for good reason.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5196
"This is a huge flop." -Mr Bitter
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5197
On April 22 2013 10:54 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:51 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.


The winner will be NASL when everyone tunes in to their next season out of spite (and out of love for Rotterdam and Bitter).


I hope. But the community (as a collective) has a very short memory, and there has been the overriding sentiment of unconditional support to "help eSports grow".

But that's unsustainable. In any other market, when a company puts out a bad product, they are "punished" by the market through lower future sales, damaged brand value, etc. But if everyone forgets about this in a few days, MLG will continue to pull this shit because the "market" let them get away with an inferior product.


If the community wants to support Esport. We should boycot MLG and just support NASL. You know the organisation that's actually professional.

As a fan of sc2 esport NASL is simply a pleasure to watch
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44365 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5198
On April 22 2013 11:01 Looms wrote:
"This is a huge flop." -Mr Bitter


"This is a cycle of crap." ~Mr. Bitter
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bxc
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5199
Mr Bitter being spot on. I'm impressed with these guys at NASL calling things right.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5200
what are the numbers beside Mr Bitter and Rotterdamn's names?
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