On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote:
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.
i hope they go down hard on this.
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
April 22 2013 01:54 GMT
#5181
On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote: WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting. i hope they go down hard on this. | ||
AgentW
United States7725 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5182
On April 22 2013 10:54 farvacola wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:53 Cayn wrote: welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence Come on now, we can be pissed at mlg without hyperbolic nationalism. Thanks for the translation. I read that twice and had no clue. | ||
KingPaddy
1053 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5183
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5184
On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote: WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting. i hope they go down hard on this. Never going to happen. edit: I take it back | ||
Cayn
Germany173 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#5185
On April 22 2013 10:54 farvacola wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:53 Cayn wrote: welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence Come on now, we can be pissed at mlg without hyperbolic nationalism. no nationalism pun intented sry just wanted to make a point that there might be little bit to much fear from mlg | ||
s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
April 22 2013 01:56 GMT
#5186
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote: Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!' MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them. That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill. This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value. I can only speak for myself but i was not very interested in the NA tournament before anyway now the interest has gone done to zero. Not going to watch any of it . Not worth staying up for it. MLG production value isn't even all that great though it gets hyped by so many people. Sure it looks nice but the actual content is not that great. | ||
AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
April 22 2013 01:56 GMT
#5187
On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote: On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote: WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting. i hope they go down hard on this. Never going to happen. Happening :O | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5188
On April 22 2013 10:56 AlternativeEgo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote: On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote: On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote: WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting. i hope they go down hard on this. Never going to happen. Happening :O see edit :O | ||
Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5189
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illusiongamer
Mexico377 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5190
On April 22 2013 10:45 Bowzar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote: I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up. All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all. HwangSin has spoken http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859¤tpage=18 | ||
AgentW
United States7725 Posts
April 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#5191
On April 22 2013 10:57 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:56 AlternativeEgo wrote: On April 22 2013 10:55 Dodgin wrote: On April 22 2013 10:54 OopsOopsBaby wrote: On April 22 2013 10:52 AgentW wrote: WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting. i hope they go down hard on this. Never going to happen. Happening :O see edit :O Pulling zero punches :O Imagine if they casted from replays and didn't catch Hyun or the hacker until then :O | ||
Benjamin99
4176 Posts
April 22 2013 01:59 GMT
#5192
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
April 22 2013 02:00 GMT
#5193
No holding back | ||
Swords
6038 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5194
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Hylirion
Netherlands968 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5195
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5196
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
April 22 2013 02:01 GMT
#5197
On April 22 2013 10:54 Bagration wrote: Show nested quote + On April 22 2013 10:51 Branman wrote: On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote: On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote: Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!' MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them. That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill. This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value. The winner will be NASL when everyone tunes in to their next season out of spite (and out of love for Rotterdam and Bitter). I hope. But the community (as a collective) has a very short memory, and there has been the overriding sentiment of unconditional support to "help eSports grow". But that's unsustainable. In any other market, when a company puts out a bad product, they are "punished" by the market through lower future sales, damaged brand value, etc. But if everyone forgets about this in a few days, MLG will continue to pull this shit because the "market" let them get away with an inferior product. If the community wants to support Esport. We should boycot MLG and just support NASL. You know the organisation that's actually professional. As a fan of sc2 esport NASL is simply a pleasure to watch | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43568 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5198
On April 22 2013 11:01 Looms wrote: "This is a huge flop." -Mr Bitter "This is a cycle of crap." ~Mr. Bitter | ||
bxc
35 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5199
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#5200
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