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neversleeping
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
117 Posts
April 22 2013 01:40 GMT
#5161
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:43:42
April 22 2013 01:43 GMT
#5162
On April 22 2013 10:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:28 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:21 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:20 AgentW wrote:
Wait, I just realized that NonY's in NA Code A, right? If true, that's awesome.


He's qualified for the NA Code A qualifier.


Yep. The NA Code S qualifier is also the NA Code A qualifier qualifier.


... That might actually be the most ridiculous part of all of this. WCS EU is having regular code A qualifiers similar to their code S qualifiers right?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
chrissummers
Profile Joined March 2011
243 Posts
April 22 2013 01:44 GMT
#5163
yep they do. esl is doing this perfectly compared to mlg
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 22 2013 01:44 GMT
#5164
On April 22 2013 10:43 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:28 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:21 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:20 AgentW wrote:
Wait, I just realized that NonY's in NA Code A, right? If true, that's awesome.


He's qualified for the NA Code A qualifier.


Yep. The NA Code S qualifier is also the NA Code A qualifier qualifier.


... That might actually be the most ridiculous part of all of this. WCS EU is having regular code A qualifiers similar to their code S qualifiers right?

I'm pretty sure that's the plan. I feel like if anything should be completely open it should be the Challenger League qualifiers since that's the gateway to WCS the rest of the year
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 22 2013 01:45 GMT
#5165
On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote:
I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up.


All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:46:22
April 22 2013 01:45 GMT
#5166
On April 22 2013 10:43 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:28 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:21 Branman wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:20 AgentW wrote:
Wait, I just realized that NonY's in NA Code A, right? If true, that's awesome.


He's qualified for the NA Code A qualifier.


Yep. The NA Code S qualifier is also the NA Code A qualifier qualifier.


... That might actually be the most ridiculous part of all of this. WCS EU is having regular code A qualifiers similar to their code S qualifiers right?


From what i've heard yes. If you placed well in the 4 premiere qualifiers you'll get better seeds but thats about it from what i've heard.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 01:47 GMT
#5167
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


Basically.

Here's the thing. If Demuslim beats Revival, then the casting from replays just completely deflates that storyline, and that would be the biggest storyline in Starcraft for a few days-- we'll likely just get a "he won, meh, it was from replays, that happened a few days ago."
SnoLys
Profile Joined August 2011
149 Posts
April 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#5168
On April 22 2013 10:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote:
I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up.


All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all.


The only person I saw criticizing MLG, besides the Koreans, was Scarlett on Twitter.
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
April 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#5169
So i guess we will have to wait for tomorrow to get the result from

+ Show Spoiler +

Demuslim vs Revival
Alive vs Macsed
Heart vs Top
Congrat to quantic Apoc for securing the 5th spot
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
April 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#5170
Is the show over?
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#5171
On April 22 2013 10:48 SnoLys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:45 Bowzar wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote:
I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up.


All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all.


The only person I saw criticizing MLG, besides the Koreans, was Scarlett on Twitter.


She deleted the tweet almost immediately.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 22 2013 01:49 GMT
#5172
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 22 2013 01:50 GMT
#5173
On April 22 2013 10:48 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:48 SnoLys wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:45 Bowzar wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:40 SnoLys wrote:
I find it funny how Slasher is so quiet while this whole mess is going on... He is usually quite vocal when tournaments screw up.


All the community figures are quiet. Criticizing MLG/WCS doesnt benefit them at all.


The only person I saw criticizing MLG, besides the Koreans, was Scarlett on Twitter.


She deleted the tweet almost immediately.

her tweet got DQ'd
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Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 01:51 GMT
#5174
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.


The winner will be NASL when everyone tunes in to their next season out of spite (and out of love for Rotterdam and Bitter).
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 01:52:46
April 22 2013 01:52 GMT
#5175
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.

As long as they get a high viewer count, they don't really care about community "goodwill." Despite all the issues with today's qualifiers, I'm guessing you and most people didn't stop watching right? That's all they care about really.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 22 2013 01:52 GMT
#5176
WCS NA discussion now on The Pulse. This should be interesting.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
April 22 2013 01:53 GMT
#5177
welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 22 2013 01:53 GMT
#5178
On April 22 2013 10:52 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.

As long as they get a high viewer count, they don't really care about community "goodwill." Despite all the issues with today's qualifiers, I'm guessing you and most people didn't stop watching right? That's all they care about really.


Lots of people stopped watching, they went from 30k to less than 20k.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
April 22 2013 01:54 GMT
#5179
On April 22 2013 10:53 Cayn wrote:
welcome to the land of free speech german pros don't give a fuck when esl is going nutz and neither is bad blood after doing so but viewing twitter of the vocal community figures overseas complete silence

Come on now, we can be pissed at mlg without hyperbolic nationalism.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 22 2013 01:54 GMT
#5180
On April 22 2013 10:51 Branman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 10:49 Bagration wrote:
On April 22 2013 10:40 neversleeping wrote:
Seriously, MLG is actually punishing fans who watched all weekend / got invested / were hyped to cheer their remaining favorites on to the LB finals tonight. 'Oh you've been watching for hours or two days aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. Tune in this week for replay casts, muahha!'


MLG doesn't care about the fans. MLG doesn't care about the scene. MLG only cares about it's bottom line, and if it can milk this qualifier out for a few more days on replays, it's more revenue to them.

That's the way MLG operates. Get shady backroom deals to get exclusivity, then leverage that monopoly power to maximize profits. It's a pretty common business practice, but MLG has really underestimated the value of community goodwill.

This fiasco has lost MLG a ton of goodwill among the community, and in the long run, goodwill has a lot of economic and monetary value.


The winner will be NASL when everyone tunes in to their next season out of spite (and out of love for Rotterdam and Bitter).


I hope. But the community (as a collective) has a very short memory, and there has been the overriding sentiment of unconditional support to "help eSports grow".

But that's unsustainable. In any other market, when a company puts out a bad product, they are "punished" by the market through lower future sales, damaged brand value, etc. But if everyone forgets about this in a few days, MLG will continue to pull this shit because the "market" let them get away with an inferior product.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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