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On April 21 2013 11:19 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 08:19 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be? FruitBasket is a unnotable amateur in our chinese forum.
O.O...
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On April 21 2013 11:21 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:19 Bagration wrote:
Being a Miya fan is probably one of the most disappointing things in SC2. His teammates keep on hyping him up, but when every time he disappoints. Nerves man :\ Dunno, that was a very impressive game imo from him seeing as that scan totally fucked him up. Still don't understand those evos not researching for so long...
I watched those games. Mayi was super good and nearly won, he is legit.
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On April 21 2013 11:21 Loxley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:19 govie wrote:
peeps should not bitch about nationality so much. SC2 is a nice game to view. Me dutch, i dont give jack shit if a dutch guy makes it or not... Bad Dutchie! Bad Dutchie! Support Ret, Grubby and Harstem now.
Ohh plz.... I only like nice plays, thats it. If a korean wins WCS-EU with vikingdrops... im fine with that!
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On April 21 2013 11:22 sitromit wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18352655Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:19 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:On April 21 2013 08:19 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be? FruitBasket is a unnotable amateur in our chinese forum. O.O...
Who is that guy and why is he stealing the SKT1Rain name?
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On April 21 2013 11:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 21 2013 11:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:Qualification matches:  Alicia vs  Revival FruitsBasket vs  TheStC Top vs Crank/ Apocalypse Oz vs aLive HyuN vs  MLG Admins Alicia TheStC Crank Alive Hyun should qualify >___> Don't understand this, aren't hyun not able to play in RO32 anyway, why is he attending this?
It takes a nation of millions to hold Hyun back.
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On April 21 2013 11:21 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:19 Bagration wrote:
Being a Miya fan is probably one of the most disappointing things in SC2. His teammates keep on hyping him up, but when every time he disappoints. Nerves man :\ Dunno, that was a very impressive game imo from him seeing as that scan totally fucked him up. Still don't understand those evos not researching for so long...
I don't think he handled the attacks very well though. He could have had much better baneling control, and killed a good number of workers. Plus, his units never seemed to hit in unison, the main engagement would happen, then 10 more banelings would roll in late
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On April 21 2013 11:10 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:05 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 11:03 govie wrote:On April 21 2013 11:00 DeathProfessor wrote:
I feel like this tournament was pretty badly designed (ya think?) no but besides all the issues I just feel like a losers bracket BO3 tournament was a terrible idea for NA. It is way easier on Koreans actually because if they drop a series they get easier competition and everyone is human and makes mistakes, second chance lets Korean mess up once and still get a seed.
I guess what I am saying is NA players need to get lucky to win most of the time, this system eliminates luck from the equation. EU was smart by making a first round BO1, this allowed EU to get some decent snipes and it saved valuable time.
If JD was elimmed out for example it would have saved so many players, OTP would have been saved and could have had an easier road to a spot.
Also this argument about Idra or Demuslim is dumb, if you replaced someone it would be State or something, why compare one dude with another who both get big time stream numbers? They BOTH deserve to move on. Not really. As elimenation or loser/winnersbrackets over mutiple days gives more then 1 chance for everybody. The difference between EU and NA is just that EU has better players basically. Just ask the korean protos if mech is viable in tvp  Lol EU does have better players but that is not the difference. The difference is 4 koreans trying to qualify vs 20 koreans trying to qualify. Then there's the fact that these are far better Koreans in this qualifier and there is less latency. Thats why u bought demuslim, stephano etcetc... ofc.. u must be right
What does that have to do with what I said?
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On April 21 2013 11:24 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:22 sitromit wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18352655On April 21 2013 11:19 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:On April 21 2013 08:19 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be? FruitBasket is a unnotable amateur in our chinese forum. O.O... Who is that guy and why is he stealing the SKT1Rain name?
He was some guy that registered earlier to rant about the Chinese players getting denied. He made his first posts in this thread about it. as for the name... idk I guess he likes Rain
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On April 21 2013 11:24 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:10 govie wrote:On April 21 2013 11:05 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 11:03 govie wrote:On April 21 2013 11:00 DeathProfessor wrote:
I feel like this tournament was pretty badly designed (ya think?) no but besides all the issues I just feel like a losers bracket BO3 tournament was a terrible idea for NA. It is way easier on Koreans actually because if they drop a series they get easier competition and everyone is human and makes mistakes, second chance lets Korean mess up once and still get a seed.
I guess what I am saying is NA players need to get lucky to win most of the time, this system eliminates luck from the equation. EU was smart by making a first round BO1, this allowed EU to get some decent snipes and it saved valuable time.
If JD was elimmed out for example it would have saved so many players, OTP would have been saved and could have had an easier road to a spot.
Also this argument about Idra or Demuslim is dumb, if you replaced someone it would be State or something, why compare one dude with another who both get big time stream numbers? They BOTH deserve to move on. Not really. As elimenation or loser/winnersbrackets over mutiple days gives more then 1 chance for everybody. The difference between EU and NA is just that EU has better players basically. Just ask the korean protos if mech is viable in tvp Lol EU does have better players but that is not the difference. The difference is 4 koreans trying to qualify vs 20 koreans trying to qualify. Then there's the fact that these are far better Koreans in this qualifier and there is less latency. Thats why u bought demuslim, stephano etcetc... ofc.. u must be right What does that have to do with what I said?
Everything!
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On April 21 2013 11:18 Cyrak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:17 slyderturtle wrote:
I'm starting to see why people were unhappy about the koreans in NA Were you here earlier in the day to see the non-korean games?
It's not about how good the games were, it's the fact that there are no NA players left in the winner bracket of the NA WCS qualifier
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Pretty funny to tell the stream address in stream. How should you hear him if you are not watching the stream already? :D
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On April 21 2013 11:25 Zyzz12 wrote:
Pretty funny to tell the stream address in stream. How should you hear him if you are not watching the stream already? :D
they could be watching a restream somewhere!
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On April 21 2013 11:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:24 Tobblish wrote:On April 21 2013 11:22 sitromit wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18352655On April 21 2013 11:19 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:On April 21 2013 08:19 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be? FruitBasket is a unnotable amateur in our chinese forum. O.O... Who is that guy and why is he stealing the SKT1Rain name? He was some guy that registered earlier to rant about the Chinese players getting denied. He made his first posts in this thread about it. as for the name... idk I guess he likes Rain
oh ok, weird.
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This is tournament Hyunbelievable.
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On April 21 2013 11:25 slyderturtle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:18 Cyrak wrote:On April 21 2013 11:17 slyderturtle wrote:
I'm starting to see why people were unhappy about the koreans in NA Were you here earlier in the day to see the non-korean games? It's not about how good the games were, it's the fact that there are no NA players left in the winner bracket of the NA WCS qualifier
I get the impression that opinion is fairly split on whether or not this is a good thing.
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On April 21 2013 11:25 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:24 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 11:10 govie wrote:On April 21 2013 11:05 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 11:03 govie wrote:On April 21 2013 11:00 DeathProfessor wrote:
I feel like this tournament was pretty badly designed (ya think?) no but besides all the issues I just feel like a losers bracket BO3 tournament was a terrible idea for NA. It is way easier on Koreans actually because if they drop a series they get easier competition and everyone is human and makes mistakes, second chance lets Korean mess up once and still get a seed.
I guess what I am saying is NA players need to get lucky to win most of the time, this system eliminates luck from the equation. EU was smart by making a first round BO1, this allowed EU to get some decent snipes and it saved valuable time.
If JD was elimmed out for example it would have saved so many players, OTP would have been saved and could have had an easier road to a spot.
Also this argument about Idra or Demuslim is dumb, if you replaced someone it would be State or something, why compare one dude with another who both get big time stream numbers? They BOTH deserve to move on. Not really. As elimenation or loser/winnersbrackets over mutiple days gives more then 1 chance for everybody. The difference between EU and NA is just that EU has better players basically. Just ask the korean protos if mech is viable in tvp Lol EU does have better players but that is not the difference. The difference is 4 koreans trying to qualify vs 20 koreans trying to qualify. Then there's the fact that these are far better Koreans in this qualifier and there is less latency. Thats why u bought demuslim, stephano etcetc... ofc.. u must be right What does that have to do with what I said? Everything!
Absolutely nothing you mean. EG bought them because they are good popular foreigners. If they were Korean EG never would have bought them. If you think EU is actually competitive with Korea skill wise because of the EU qualifiers you are kind of dumb.
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On April 21 2013 11:25 Zyzz12 wrote:
Pretty funny to tell the stream address in stream. How should you hear him if you are not watching the stream already? :D
I don't know the stream address, I just come here and click on the sidebar :p.
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On April 21 2013 11:27 Cyrak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:25 slyderturtle wrote:On April 21 2013 11:18 Cyrak wrote:On April 21 2013 11:17 slyderturtle wrote:
I'm starting to see why people were unhappy about the koreans in NA Were you here earlier in the day to see the non-korean games? It's not about how good the games were, it's the fact that there are no NA players left in the winner bracket of the NA WCS qualifier I get the impression that opinion is fairly split on whether or not this is a good thing.
I had that impression too?
I'm saying that the one side has a point haha.
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If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.
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On April 21 2013 11:30 slyderturtle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:27 Cyrak wrote:On April 21 2013 11:25 slyderturtle wrote:On April 21 2013 11:18 Cyrak wrote:On April 21 2013 11:17 slyderturtle wrote:
I'm starting to see why people were unhappy about the koreans in NA Were you here earlier in the day to see the non-korean games? It's not about how good the games were, it's the fact that there are no NA players left in the winner bracket of the NA WCS qualifier I get the impression that opinion is fairly split on whether or not this is a good thing. I had that impression too? I'm saying that the one side has a point haha.
I guess there is no solution that will satisfy everyone in this situation.
On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.
A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.
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