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On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?
Yeah, it seems as though Flash analyzed what went wrong vs. Life in GSL and decided "hmmm, just need more mines." You can diligently take out the first dozen, but eventually a big hit will come. And even if it doesn't, being backed up by a dozen mines that zerg may or may not have vision of (if there are a bunch you might not be sure if you triggered all of them) will prevent zerg from punishing a terran that over-extends. So then a top-level terran (which, to be fair, is probably only about half a dozen players in the world) can take advantage of that high skill-cap inherent to the ranged glass cannons that marines epitomize.
I suspect one of three things will eventually happen:
1) Startale Life or Roro will demonstrate that you can use the mines against the terran without it being a lucky accident that it killed some bio; or, in the alternative, will execute so well that terran can't effectively set up a push on the Zerg's 3rd or 4th before infestors/Hive comes out.
2) Zerg's will find some way to change the meta -- probably with swarm hosts, which should handle the mines better, at least.
3) Neither of the above will occur, top Korean terrans will dominate the matchup with regularity, and Blizzard will nerf the mines.
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On April 18 2013 21:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zvt is just sad
Your constant lamentation is just sad.
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Or not putting a spine where it can be sniped, make roaches?
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On April 18 2013 21:08 SibChil wrote:Feels exactly like WoL starting days again where terrans pick up a couple of freewins from the openings here and there 
11/11 was the build with highest TvZ winrate even at the end of WoL!
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Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it
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On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that...
Scout it and get a fast gas, the way it's known for weeks?
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he could have moved that spine at any point where it was clear that maru had no problem doing that micro all day long
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On April 18 2013 21:08 Seiniyta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that... Not going hatch first?
You can defend 8-8-8 with hatch first.
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On April 18 2013 21:05 SiroKO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 20:57 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On April 18 2013 20:53 Audemed wrote:
Widow mines so exciting and balanced -.- It makes the game more exciting...more exciting than the borefest that were infestors+BLs...give Zerg some time to adapt, they'll find a way. Some time to adapt ? Life (Zerg) bet Flash 4-2 at last MLG, and Flash was using that exact same unit composition he used to 4-0 BBong and Soulkey. Had you watched those games closely, you would have noticed that each time widow mines had some bad detonations, the supplies were closing up pretty damn fast. That last game was actually very close, until Soulkey lost his 4th.
Life went three times for a huge ling+blings aggression...at that time, Flash seemed not to knowhow to deal with it, there was some player in PL who tried the same thing against Flash, but he got completely destroyed since Flash made the necessary adjustments against it.
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On April 18 2013 21:09 nomyx wrote:Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it
yeah guys, doa and monte are pretty solid. they may not have the epic chemistry of tastosis but they talk a lot more about the games lol
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Teaches us to not let a half dead spine crawler finish near a bunker without ling support. And to maybe uh do a ling conter attack against a defenseless Terran.
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On April 18 2013 21:09 Waxangel wrote:
he could have moved that spine at any point where it was clear that maru had no problem doing that micro all day long
Obvious answer often so far away in a stressful situation!
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towel terran is the new metagame
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On April 18 2013 21:09 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that... Scout it and get a fast gas, the way it's known for weeks?
Yeah, B4 blundered it pretty bad especially considering that he cancelled his gas when he saw the SCV near the proxy rax with his ovie
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he could have not cancelled his gas ;d
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On April 18 2013 20:52 lichter wrote:
I hope Flash shows this kind of form this week in PL because I need them FPL points
you, me and 90% of TL users
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On April 18 2013 21:09 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 21:09 nomyx wrote:Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it yeah guys, doa and monte are pretty solid. they may not have the epic chemistry of tastosis but they talk a lot more about the games lol
Oh boy, they have just 400 viewers. That's sort of sad, they deserve more.
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