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Zinthar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States394 Posts
April 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#1801
On April 18 2013 20:54 massivez wrote:
Thing is, zerg has to play Wol Style against a Hots Terran. The new units do jackshit against bio. Buffing zerg isn't the option either i think. Is there any unit that should get a buff to cope with this?


Yeah, it seems as though Flash analyzed what went wrong vs. Life in GSL and decided "hmmm, just need more mines." You can diligently take out the first dozen, but eventually a big hit will come. And even if it doesn't, being backed up by a dozen mines that zerg may or may not have vision of (if there are a bunch you might not be sure if you triggered all of them) will prevent zerg from punishing a terran that over-extends. So then a top-level terran (which, to be fair, is probably only about half a dozen players in the world) can take advantage of that high skill-cap inherent to the ranged glass cannons that marines epitomize.

I suspect one of three things will eventually happen:

1) Startale Life or Roro will demonstrate that you can use the mines against the terran without it being a lucky accident that it killed some bio; or, in the alternative, will execute so well that terran can't effectively set up a push on the Zerg's 3rd or 4th before infestors/Hive comes out.

2) Zerg's will find some way to change the meta -- probably with swarm hosts, which should handle the mines better, at least.

3) Neither of the above will occur, top Korean terrans will dominate the matchup with regularity, and Blizzard will nerf the mines.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#1802
On April 18 2013 21:07 Tsubbi wrote:
zvt is just sad

Your constant lamentation is just sad.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
April 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#1803
That micro was so sick!
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1804
Or not putting a spine where it can be sniped, make roaches?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1805
On April 18 2013 21:08 SibChil wrote:
Feels exactly like WoL starting days again where terrans pick up a couple of freewins from the openings here and there


11/11 was the build with highest TvZ winrate even at the end of WoL!
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:09:14
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1806
Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1807
fun game!
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1808
On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that...

Scout it and get a fast gas, the way it's known for weeks?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1809
he could have moved that spine at any point where it was clear that maru had no problem doing that micro all day long
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1810
On April 18 2013 21:08 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that...


Not going hatch first?

You can defend 8-8-8 with hatch first.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1811
WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
[image loading] (T)Maru vs [image loading] (Z)BBoongBBoong
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Atlas

0:00
Maru spawns in the bottom left
BBoongBBoong spawns in the top right
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Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1812
On April 18 2013 21:05 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 20:57 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On April 18 2013 20:53 Audemed wrote:
Widow mines so exciting and balanced -.-


It makes the game more exciting...more exciting than the borefest that were infestors+BLs...give Zerg some time to adapt, they'll find a way.


Some time to adapt ?
Life (Zerg) bet Flash 4-2 at last MLG, and Flash was using that exact same unit composition he used to 4-0 BBong and Soulkey.
Had you watched those games closely, you would have noticed that each time widow mines had some bad detonations, the supplies were closing up pretty damn fast. That last game was actually very close, until Soulkey lost his 4th.


Life went three times for a huge ling+blings aggression...at that time, Flash seemed not to knowhow to deal with it, there was some player in PL who tried the same thing against Flash, but he got completely destroyed since Flash made the necessary adjustments against it.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 12:09 GMT
#1813
On April 18 2013 21:09 nomyx wrote:
Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it

yeah guys, doa and monte are pretty solid. they may not have the epic chemistry of tastosis but they talk a lot more about the games lol
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1814
Teaches us to not let a half dead spine crawler finish near a bunker without ling support. And to maybe uh do a ling conter attack against a defenseless Terran.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1815
On April 18 2013 21:09 Waxangel wrote:
he could have moved that spine at any point where it was clear that maru had no problem doing that micro all day long


Obvious answer often so far away in a stressful situation!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1816
towel terran is the new metagame
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1817
On April 18 2013 21:09 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:08 RaiderRob wrote:
How do you even defend against that...

Scout it and get a fast gas, the way it's known for weeks?


Yeah, B4 blundered it pretty bad especially considering that he cancelled his gas when he saw the SCV near the proxy rax with his ovie
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1818
he could have not cancelled his gas ;d
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
April 18 2013 12:10 GMT
#1819
On April 18 2013 20:52 lichter wrote:
I hope Flash shows this kind of form this week in PL because I need them FPL points


you, me and 90% of TL users
protoss living in da ghetto
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 18 2013 12:11 GMT
#1820
On April 18 2013 21:09 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 21:09 nomyx wrote:
Doa and montecristo are doing a real good job at casting. I've been watching them instead of tastosis and I'm enjoying it

yeah guys, doa and monte are pretty solid. they may not have the epic chemistry of tastosis but they talk a lot more about the games lol

Oh boy, they have just 400 viewers. That's sort of sad, they deserve more.
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