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[SPL] CJ Entus vs Samsung Khan Round 4. Week 2 - Page 7

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:09 GMT
#121
On April 15 2013 16:06 Die4Ever wrote:
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On April 15 2013 16:04 Daralii wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).

I get the feeling valkyries would be stupidly overpowered at lower levels with a working AI and SC2's unit clumping.

T has some AoE AA with widows, so I think it'd really only be toss that would be fucked over just because Storm's a DoT.

AoE AA - thors, widow mines, emp vs toss, storm, archons, fungal


Fungal projectile is pretty slow. Should be easy for scourge to dodge them
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 15 2013 07:10 GMT
#122
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I disagree, muta/scourge wars were way more exciting to watch. Always encouraged me to go on iccup, try to micro like that and fail miserably.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
April 15 2013 07:10 GMT
#123
On April 15 2013 16:09 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:06 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 Daralii wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).

I get the feeling valkyries would be stupidly overpowered at lower levels with a working AI and SC2's unit clumping.

T has some AoE AA with widows, so I think it'd really only be toss that would be fucked over just because Storm's a DoT.

AoE AA - thors, widow mines, emp vs toss, storm, archons, fungal


Fungal projectile is pretty slow. Should be easy for scourge to dodge them

oh I forgot seeker missle, lol
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 15 2013 07:10 GMT
#124
On April 15 2013 16:06 warshop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I wish Swarm Hosts had a bigger deal in ZvZ for HotS. Would make interesting map control.

Oh well...


No it wouldn't be very entertaining. Think of it like broodlords on ground as both players would get sh and it would just be free unit trades all day every day.

I would much rather zvz stay muta heavy then not just because zvz on pure ground would be 1 of 2 things, same boring roach/hydra/infestor -> broodlord like wol or it would be sh/roach/hydra or something really boring and dumb like that xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
April 15 2013 07:11 GMT
#125
On April 15 2013 16:10 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:06 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I wish Swarm Hosts had a bigger deal in ZvZ for HotS. Would make interesting map control.

Oh well...


No it wouldn't be very entertaining. Think of it like broodlords on ground as both players would get sh and it would just be free unit trades all day every day.

I would much rather zvz stay muta heavy then not just because zvz on pure ground would be 1 of 2 things, same boring roach/hydra/infestor -> broodlord like wol or it would be sh/roach/hydra or something really boring and dumb like that xD

I thought roach hydra infestor was pretty good
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 07:13:10
April 15 2013 07:11 GMT
#126
On April 15 2013 16:06 GTPGlitch wrote:
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On April 15 2013 16:05 Ammanas wrote:
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)


Bong, herO, Sacsri, Motive?


hmm, herO was playing also before, as zerg, that I am sure of. Motive didn't play in like forever. Bong would be a good choice. Well, I guess some EG-TL guys or Parting didn't play before, so will be one of them probably..

On April 15 2013 16:09 trifecta wrote:
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On April 15 2013 16:05 Ammanas wrote:
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)


Rain aka by.sun?



He already was rookie of the year last year, wasn't he?
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 15 2013 07:11 GMT
#127
On April 15 2013 16:07 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:05 Daralii wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.

Muta/scourge all day erry day.


Basically ling bling with wings


But with more exciting micro. At least the games were short and intense.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 15 2013 07:12 GMT
#128
On April 15 2013 16:11 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:06 GTPGlitch wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:05 Ammanas wrote:
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)


Bong, herO, Sacsri, Motive?


hmm, herO was playing also before, as zerg, that I am sure of. Motive didn't play in like forever. Bong would be a good choice. Well, I guess some EG-TL guys or Parting didn't play before, so will be one of them probably..


Bear, king of the novices
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warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 15 2013 07:13 GMT
#129
On April 15 2013 16:10 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:06 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I wish Swarm Hosts had a bigger deal in ZvZ for HotS. Would make interesting map control.

Oh well...


No it wouldn't be very entertaining. Think of it like broodlords on ground as both players would get sh and it would just be free unit trades all day every day.

I would much rather zvz stay muta heavy then not just because zvz on pure ground would be 1 of 2 things, same boring roach/hydra/infestor -> broodlord like wol or it would be sh/roach/hydra or something really boring and dumb like that xD


Agreed. I retract my statement.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 15 2013 07:13 GMT
#130
Crap, hydra's only weakness-miness
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:13 GMT
#131
On April 15 2013 16:10 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I disagree, muta/scourge wars were way more exciting to watch. Always encouraged me to go on iccup, try to micro like that and fail miserably.


Ling bling is a LOT harder to micro. Just as exciting, but of course short games = longer breaks so I guess games making it to muta tech is a better viewing experience.
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 15 2013 07:14 GMT
#132
On April 15 2013 16:10 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:06 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I wish Swarm Hosts had a bigger deal in ZvZ for HotS. Would make interesting map control.

Oh well...


No it wouldn't be very entertaining. Think of it like broodlords on ground as both players would get sh and it would just be free unit trades all day every day.

I would much rather zvz stay muta heavy then not just because zvz on pure ground would be 1 of 2 things, same boring roach/hydra/infestor -> broodlord like wol or it would be sh/roach/hydra or something really boring and dumb like that xD

If mutas had even a slice of BW micro i would so agree with you...
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
April 15 2013 07:15 GMT
#133
On April 15 2013 16:13 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:10 Kergy wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I disagree, muta/scourge wars were way more exciting to watch. Always encouraged me to go on iccup, try to micro like that and fail miserably.


Ling bling is a LOT harder to micro. Just as exciting, but of course short games = longer breaks so I guess games making it to muta tech is a better viewing experience.

haha, only in a proleague thread would you hear about game design in relation to breaks
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 15 2013 07:16 GMT
#134
Ohhhhh god hydra going for another banebust
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 15 2013 07:17 GMT
#135
Jeesus that went terribly, pretty much just killed a bunker and 2 vacs' worth of bio while losing all but 3 mutas and a ton of ground >.>
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 15 2013 07:17 GMT
#136
Hydra looked pretty strong in WoL, but hes just not the same in HotS so far.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
April 15 2013 07:17 GMT
#137
Did Hydra just get hit by Reality?
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
April 15 2013 07:18 GMT
#138
soo, hydra doesn't understand how widow mines work? was he on the team with people who don't understand sc2 very well?
bisu
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 15 2013 07:19 GMT
#139
Hydra is always keeping his mutas in a fight for too long :/
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 15 2013 07:19 GMT
#140
Hydra lost some banelings to single marines -_-
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