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[SPL] CJ Entus vs Samsung Khan Round 4. Week 2 - Page 6

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warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 15 2013 07:02 GMT
#101
On April 15 2013 16:02 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:01 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).


Next expansion will bring anti-air splash. Only thing we're missing no?

We're missing water units :o


And water to start with.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:02 GMT
#102
On April 15 2013 16:01 warshop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).


Next expansion will bring anti-air splash. Only thing we're missing no?


I guess having to split your air units will force more micro. Maybe. Not sure if I like the idea of more air units though.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 15 2013 07:03 GMT
#103
On April 15 2013 16:02 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:01 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).


Next expansion will bring anti-air splash. Only thing we're missing no?


I guess having to split your air units will force more micro. Maybe. Not sure if I like the idea of more air units though.

I think if anything, HotS needs less focus on air units
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 15 2013 07:03 GMT
#104
Well they did try anti air splash tempests but they were useless.
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-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
April 15 2013 07:03 GMT
#105
EffOrt is so fucking good , Very wp by him...^^
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 15 2013 07:04 GMT
#106
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).

I get the feeling valkyries would be stupidly overpowered at lower levels with a working AI and SC2's unit clumping.

T has some AoE AA with widows, so I think it'd really only be toss that would be fucked over just because Storm's a DoT.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 15 2013 07:04 GMT
#107
On April 15 2013 16:02 warshop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:02 slowbacontron wrote:
On April 15 2013 16:01 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).


Next expansion will bring anti-air splash. Only thing we're missing no?

We're missing water units :o


And water to start with.

Well the map editor has water terrain options. Now that I think about it they're not used much, I guess.
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 15 2013 07:04 GMT
#108
On April 15 2013 16:03 -IeZaeL- wrote:
EffOrt is so fucking good , Very wp by him...^^

In ZvZ, its time for him to learn other MUs

Stork[gm]
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:04 GMT
#109
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
April 15 2013 07:05 GMT
#110
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 15 2013 07:05 GMT
#111
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.

Muta/scourge all day erry day.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#112
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.


I wish Swarm Hosts had a bigger deal in ZvZ for HotS. Would make interesting map control.

Oh well...
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#113
On April 15 2013 16:02 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:01 warshop wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).


Next expansion will bring anti-air splash. Only thing we're missing no?


I guess having to split your air units will force more micro. Maybe. Not sure if I like the idea of more air units though.


Nah, just give corrupters an ability/upgrade to do some air splash.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#114
On April 15 2013 16:05 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.

Muta/scourge all day erry day.

But then you appreciate Hive ZvZ (hi Great and Zero).
Stork[gm]
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 07:08:51
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#115
On April 15 2013 16:05 Ammanas wrote:
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)


Bong, herO, Sacsri, Motive, 3/4ths of team 8?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#116
On April 15 2013 16:04 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).

I get the feeling valkyries would be stupidly overpowered at lower levels with a working AI and SC2's unit clumping.

T has some AoE AA with widows, so I think it'd really only be toss that would be fucked over just because Storm's a DoT.


Widow mines can be triggered by lone scourges though, which isn't efficient. Scourge also won't target widow mines unlike banelings. Thors are splash AA but no way Thors will ever catch up to scourge even in their sleep

In conclusion, scourge wouldn't make the game better, only ZvZ
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#117
On April 15 2013 16:04 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:59 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:57 Zealously wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:55 Spacekyod wrote:
Ah... So that's what it looks like when people say muta wars requires no micro.


Take away corrupters, bring back scourge?


That would mess up other match-ups so badly, I feel


Stargate becomes useless, drops become useless, Skytoss and Sky Terran become useless (because of lack of splash anti air unlike corsairs and valkyries).

I get the feeling valkyries would be stupidly overpowered at lower levels with a working AI and SC2's unit clumping.

T has some AoE AA with widows, so I think it'd really only be toss that would be fucked over just because Storm's a DoT.

AoE AA - thors, widow mines, emp vs toss, storm, archons, fungal
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2013 07:07 GMT
#118
On April 15 2013 16:05 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 16:04 lichter wrote:
BW ZvZ wasn't very good either. And kinfa similar I guess. Except with worse graphics and less interesting death animations.

Muta/scourge all day erry day.


Basically ling bling with wings
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 15 2013 07:08 GMT
#119
CMON HYDRA GET HYPED :D
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 15 2013 07:09 GMT
#120
On April 15 2013 16:05 Ammanas wrote:
I feel like Khan needs to recruit some more players. I mean, like, Solar and Turn playing in SPL, wtf? When Kespa/ESF trade agreement ends, Samsung should be getting at least 2-3 more players imo.

btw, who is the most successful novice in SPL? I cannot think of any actually O_o (besides Solar)


Rain aka by.sun?

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