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[SPL] CJ Entus vs Samsung Khan Round 4. Week 2 - Page 21

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#401
wow KHAN > CJ in all four rounds

poor CJ ;;
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:08:41
April 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#402
skyhigh just seemed lost that entire game. What was his follow-up plan after the vikings took out roro's air? It just seemed like he was waiting for roro to act and doing half-assed responses , instead of thinking of how to win the game.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
April 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#403
On April 15 2013 18:02 Clawfinger wrote:
Haha dat BM suicide with the corrupter's was so sick. I love it when you see confidence like this.

I don't think it was a BM suicide, just a way to finish his opponent. It was the only solution actually.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
April 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#404
lol @ misplaced icons
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:08:03
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#405
I still can't believe woongjin stars is doing well considering their star BW players are not even that good in SC2.
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#406
Woot woot, JD vs Flash
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#407
why o why all the ravens instead of battlecruisers?
Battlecruisers much more resistant to ultra switches, yamato is better than seeker missile and BCs are good at stopping locusts without using energy.. Sure they are more expensive but the crucial thing in this stage is gas cost and 100m 200g doesn't differ so much from 400m 300g then, i rather have 2 battlecruisers than 3 ravens.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#408
Khan started this Proleague with a 1-6 record. Now positive.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#409
the fact it's 5 dollars for the entire season of proleague still blows my mind
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 15 2013 09:06 GMT
#410
On April 15 2013 18:05 Markwerf wrote:
why o why all the ravens instead of battlecruisers?
Battlecruisers much more resistant to ultra switches, yamato is better than seeker missile and BCs are good at stopping locusts without using energy.. Sure they are more expensive but the crucial thing in this stage is gas cost and 100m 200g doesn't differ so much from 400m 300g then, i rather have 2 battlecruisers than 3 ravens.


then the zerg just makes more corruptors and wins. Hunter seeker is crucial in sky battles vs corruptors.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:09:08
April 15 2013 09:06 GMT
#411
On April 15 2013 18:05 Fenrax wrote:
Khan started this Proleague with a 1-6 record. Now positive.

i'll be impressed even more when their map store turns positive haha.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 15 2013 09:07 GMT
#412
On April 15 2013 18:05 EpiK wrote:
I still can't believe woongjin stars is doing well considering Zero is not even good in SC2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/174_ZerO/games

60% is pretty good!
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#413
also mech players should be using dropplay more, hellbat drops are still awesome and hellbats with healing are just great combat units. Medivac speed kind of laughs at corruptors
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:09:20
April 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#414
On April 15 2013 18:05 Markwerf wrote:
why o why all the ravens instead of battlecruisers?
Battlecruisers much more resistant to ultra switches, yamato is better than seeker missile and BCs are good at stopping locusts without using energy.. Sure they are more expensive but the crucial thing in this stage is gas cost and 100m 200g doesn't differ so much from 400m 300g then, i rather have 2 battlecruisers than 3 ravens.

In my opinion BC are very effective from a certain number. Skyhigh had no minerals, he would have had only 3-4 BC max. Ravens are more versatile and cost only gas : in a limited number they can do more damage than BC. I think that's why he built raven instead of BC.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 09:11:24
April 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#415
On April 15 2013 18:03 EpiK wrote:
skyhigh just seemed lost that entire game. What was his follow-up plan after the vikings took out roro's air? It just seemed like he was waiting for roro to act and doing a half-assed responses , instead of thinking of how to win the game.


He was only at like 120 supply at that point. There is no follow up that could have won the game. I mean he definitely could have tried harder and done some fancy walling to make his tanks more cost effective vs the ultras but in the end it was like 120 supply terran with no economy vs 200 supply zerg that had 7k/3k.

Also as a response to multiple other posts in this topic I don't think that game was mech being bad the game was really dictated by the blue flame opening failing. That is a very all-in strategy you have to do a lot of damage and he did pretty much the minimum possible amount.
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
April 15 2013 09:10 GMT
#416
ZerO is great in sc2!
Writer@joonjoewong
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
April 15 2013 09:10 GMT
#417
On April 15 2013 18:05 Schelim wrote:
the fact it's 5 dollars for the entire season of proleague still blows my mind


I bought it right when it was offered and I've gotten.. uh.. lots more than that out of it in terms of value
Waffles > Pancakes
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 15 2013 09:10 GMT
#418
On April 15 2013 12:59 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 12:51 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 12:49 opterown wrote:
thanks lichter! i hope stork/effort/reality/herO/jangbi and roro can win today~ (4-2 khan)


Khan are on a 2 game win streak while CJ are 0-3 this round.

Will these streaks continue?

yes, yes they will! :D 4-2 Khan is my vote lol

Called it! XD

On April 15 2013 13:04 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 12:59 BigFan wrote:
On April 15 2013 12:51 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2013 12:49 opterown wrote:
thanks lichter! i hope stork/effort/reality/herO/jangbi and roro can win today~ (4-2 khan)


Khan are on a 2 game win streak while CJ are 0-3 this round.

Will these streaks continue?

yes, yes they will! :D 4-2 Khan is my vote lol


I am hoping for 4-2 as well. I just wanna see JangBi play

you got your wish lol.

Anyone care to tell me how Jangbi lost? I thought he would've been able to win against Bbyong please?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#419
On April 15 2013 18:06 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 18:05 Markwerf wrote:
why o why all the ravens instead of battlecruisers?
Battlecruisers much more resistant to ultra switches, yamato is better than seeker missile and BCs are good at stopping locusts without using energy.. Sure they are more expensive but the crucial thing in this stage is gas cost and 100m 200g doesn't differ so much from 400m 300g then, i rather have 2 battlecruisers than 3 ravens.


then the zerg just makes more corruptors and wins. Hunter seeker is crucial in sky battles vs corruptors.


I can see the use for a few raven but that high amount is lousy imo. Battlecruisers can easily get 200 energy in these prolonged fights and yamato is much better than seeker missile for taking out broodlords from distance. It's even pretty good against corruptors.

Mech play and zergs playing vs mech looks extremely rough still. So much more refinement possible in it:
Terran needs to be dropping more and switch into air quicker, all the times I see terran meching they end up suiciding tanks eventually because they overinvested in ground army. Mixing in BCs with those ravens should be done more as you need air units that can handle the ultra switch, plus yamato is just quite good now.

As for zerg, why not just a few vipers in that mix? It's great if you can get off a good blinding cloud when your locusts are moving in, even just for PFs it's a great spell. Having 1 or 2 vipers around for abduct is crucial though I think, sniping off tanks or saving your own units from seeker missile is so damn useful.

I don't expect it to see too much though, bio just feels way superior at the moment but it would be nice to see it more in the future. I would like to see a small tank buff but have it's siege upgrade reinstated, so it becomes more interesting to go mech instead of just making tanks easy to splash. It's silly to have the most iconic unit in the game be upgrade-less somehow.

Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 15 2013 09:23 GMT
#420
On April 15 2013 18:10 Wafflelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 18:05 Schelim wrote:
the fact it's 5 dollars for the entire season of proleague still blows my mind


I bought it right when it was offered and I've gotten.. uh.. lots more than that out of it in terms of value

oh yeah, me too. when i say season, i mean the whole year.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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