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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
April 17 2013 21:13 GMT
#5841
On April 18 2013 06:10 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:09 Bagi wrote:
RO32 onwards will be played tomorrow, right?

No ro32 is the last one that is played tonight.


Really? Rest tomorrow or?
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
April 17 2013 21:13 GMT
#5842
On April 18 2013 06:12 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:06 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:55 TheSir wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:37 scypio wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:35 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:34 Ammoth wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:32 geokilla wrote:
Just got home. No NASL stream today?! What happened

https://pay.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cjg2j/nasl_not_allowed_by_blizzard_to_cover_wcs/

Wtf Blizzard. Way to kill esports.


There is like 5-6k less viewers than yesterday... and I'd expect 5-6k more with NASL around. Really bad decision making from blizzard.

I don't like Blizzard's handling of WCS in general. What was the point, again? Was it to promote regional play? Because WCS America is going to be invaded by like two dozen mid to top-tier Koreans. EU has like 4-6 Koreans (none of which I'd consider top-tier, except maybe Tails) in the quals alone, not including the invites to the Premier league. But the part that stings the most is that we won't see foreigners competing in the GSL anymore because of this exclusive/lock system. And the top Koreans won't be coming over to MLG anymore unless they're locked to WCS America. And then the reduced Korean prize pool (from last year). And how there was little communication and time given to the teams/players to prepare for this.



uuh top Korean's can still come to MLG events just like Dreamhacks and IEM's, that has nothing to do with WCS. Why wouldn't they come? The did in the past so why would they stop?

MLG Pro Circuit is going to be the new WCS America Code S, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was MLG = Code S America, IEM = Code S EU, and GSL = Code S Korea.

So if you're playing in the official MLG or IEM or GSL circuit, you can't compete in the other two.

P.S. I forgot to mention MVP.Finale as another mid/top-tier Korean in the EU quals


No, wrong except that GSL = WCS Korea.

MLG Pro Circuit and IEM are completely separate from WCS NA and EU, except that they might grant additional WCS points (like other events that are independent from WCS).

isn't it GSL+OSL = WCS KR ?
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 17 2013 21:13 GMT
#5843
On April 18 2013 06:11 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:08 Musicus wrote:
XlorD vs Whitera would be sick.


Which stream is streaming that match? and yes hope grandpa toss can teach X-lord some special tactics!

White-Ra is not far enough yet for that match to happen.


It's happening. On most streams too I guess, at least Kaelaris and Mori show it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 17 2013 21:14 GMT
#5844
On April 18 2013 06:12 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:10 Sissors wrote:
It is good to see more attempts at mech in TvP, but has there been in those qualifiers any TvP mech who won without being ridiculously far ahead? Naama now won with mech, but really he traded beyond horrible against NeOAngels army. Only because his income was so much higher and his army so much bigger could he sustain that.

Bunny did, maybe Krass too .
Also doing hellbat drops will put you ahead most of the time . TAILS and and finale Also failed to counter them .


Krass was actually the most impressive Terran so fare because his bio multitasking drop vs Harstem was just a pleasure to watch. And his mech was just so solid.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12081 Posts
April 17 2013 21:14 GMT
#5845
Assuming Morrow plays terran, 13P, 12Z, 5T, with two ZvP still unfinished
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
April 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#5846
On April 18 2013 06:12 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:10 Sissors wrote:
It is good to see more attempts at mech in TvP, but has there been in those qualifiers any TvP mech who won without being ridiculously far ahead? Naama now won with mech, but really he traded beyond horrible against NeOAngels army. Only because his income was so much higher and his army so much bigger could he sustain that.

Bunny did, maybe Krass too .
Also doing hellbat drops will put you ahead most of the time . TAILS and and finale Also failed to counter them .

However hellbat drops aren't really linked to mech play. So then you might as well do hellbat drops + bio. But will have a look at Bunny's games.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#5847
On April 18 2013 06:13 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:10 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:09 Bagi wrote:
RO32 onwards will be played tomorrow, right?

No ro32 is the last one that is played tonight.


Really? Rest tomorrow or?

Yes, really.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#5848
(P)White-Ra 0-0 (Z)XlorD : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/sc2tv_ru & http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain - http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe (WHY SO MANY ?!)
(Z)Ziktomini 1-0 (Z)XiGua : http://www.twitch.tv/genetikk45
(P)TAiLS 1-0 (P)ShoWTimE : http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/
(T)Naama 0-0 (P)Welmu : http://www.twitch.tv/tffmrpink (I think)
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 17 2013 21:17 GMT
#5849
On April 18 2013 06:13 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:11 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:10 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:08 Musicus wrote:
XlorD vs Whitera would be sick.


Which stream is streaming that match? and yes hope grandpa toss can teach X-lord some special tactics!

White-Ra is not far enough yet for that match to happen.


It's happening. On most streams too I guess, at least Kaelaris and Mori show it.

Opps my bad.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 17 2013 21:17 GMT
#5850
On April 18 2013 06:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Assuming Morrow plays terran, 13P, 12Z, 5T, with two ZvP still unfinished


Morrow is full time terran
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 17 2013 21:18 GMT
#5851
On April 18 2013 06:13 Vertitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:12 SinCitta wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:06 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:55 TheSir wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:37 scypio wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:35 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:34 Ammoth wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:32 geokilla wrote:
Just got home. No NASL stream today?! What happened

https://pay.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cjg2j/nasl_not_allowed_by_blizzard_to_cover_wcs/

Wtf Blizzard. Way to kill esports.


There is like 5-6k less viewers than yesterday... and I'd expect 5-6k more with NASL around. Really bad decision making from blizzard.

I don't like Blizzard's handling of WCS in general. What was the point, again? Was it to promote regional play? Because WCS America is going to be invaded by like two dozen mid to top-tier Koreans. EU has like 4-6 Koreans (none of which I'd consider top-tier, except maybe Tails) in the quals alone, not including the invites to the Premier league. But the part that stings the most is that we won't see foreigners competing in the GSL anymore because of this exclusive/lock system. And the top Koreans won't be coming over to MLG anymore unless they're locked to WCS America. And then the reduced Korean prize pool (from last year). And how there was little communication and time given to the teams/players to prepare for this.



uuh top Korean's can still come to MLG events just like Dreamhacks and IEM's, that has nothing to do with WCS. Why wouldn't they come? The did in the past so why would they stop?

MLG Pro Circuit is going to be the new WCS America Code S, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was MLG = Code S America, IEM = Code S EU, and GSL = Code S Korea.

So if you're playing in the official MLG or IEM or GSL circuit, you can't compete in the other two.

P.S. I forgot to mention MVP.Finale as another mid/top-tier Korean in the EU quals


No, wrong except that GSL = WCS Korea.

MLG Pro Circuit and IEM are completely separate from WCS NA and EU, except that they might grant additional WCS points (like other events that are independent from WCS).

isn't it GSL+OSL = WCS KR ?


Oh yeah, OSL, too.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 17 2013 21:19 GMT
#5852
On April 18 2013 06:13 Vertitto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:12 SinCitta wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:06 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:55 TheSir wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:37 scypio wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:35 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:34 Ammoth wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:32 geokilla wrote:
Just got home. No NASL stream today?! What happened

https://pay.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cjg2j/nasl_not_allowed_by_blizzard_to_cover_wcs/

Wtf Blizzard. Way to kill esports.


There is like 5-6k less viewers than yesterday... and I'd expect 5-6k more with NASL around. Really bad decision making from blizzard.

I don't like Blizzard's handling of WCS in general. What was the point, again? Was it to promote regional play? Because WCS America is going to be invaded by like two dozen mid to top-tier Koreans. EU has like 4-6 Koreans (none of which I'd consider top-tier, except maybe Tails) in the quals alone, not including the invites to the Premier league. But the part that stings the most is that we won't see foreigners competing in the GSL anymore because of this exclusive/lock system. And the top Koreans won't be coming over to MLG anymore unless they're locked to WCS America. And then the reduced Korean prize pool (from last year). And how there was little communication and time given to the teams/players to prepare for this.



uuh top Korean's can still come to MLG events just like Dreamhacks and IEM's, that has nothing to do with WCS. Why wouldn't they come? The did in the past so why would they stop?

MLG Pro Circuit is going to be the new WCS America Code S, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was MLG = Code S America, IEM = Code S EU, and GSL = Code S Korea.

So if you're playing in the official MLG or IEM or GSL circuit, you can't compete in the other two.

P.S. I forgot to mention MVP.Finale as another mid/top-tier Korean in the EU quals


No, wrong except that GSL = WCS Korea.

MLG Pro Circuit and IEM are completely separate from WCS NA and EU, except that they might grant additional WCS points (like other events that are independent from WCS).

isn't it GSL+OSL = WCS KR ?


That's it. Even though, as far as I now, no OSL since the first in SC2 was never announced, so I don't know if an OSL would have been ever played without WCS. I think it would, but I'm not sure.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Reactivate
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
April 17 2013 21:19 GMT
#5853
Harstem is like the Dutch Pandatank. He made the final (32) bracket in all 4 QF's if I'm not mistaken. Next round he's up against White/LaLush.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:22:02
April 17 2013 21:20 GMT
#5854
On April 18 2013 06:16 Yhamm wrote:
(P)White-Ra 0-0 (Z)XlorD : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/sc2tv_ru & http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain - http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe (WHY SO MANY ?!)
(Z)Ziktomini 1-0 (Z)XiGua : http://www.twitch.tv/genetikk45
(P)TAiLS 1-0 (P)ShoWTimE : http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/
(T)Naama 0-0 (P)Welmu : http://www.twitch.tv/tffmrpink (I think)


White-ra makes a deep run? All streams flock towards him haha
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
April 17 2013 21:22 GMT
#5855
On April 18 2013 06:18 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:13 Vertitto wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:12 SinCitta wrote:
On April 18 2013 06:06 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:55 TheSir wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:37 scypio wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:35 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:34 Ammoth wrote:
On April 18 2013 05:32 geokilla wrote:
Just got home. No NASL stream today?! What happened

https://pay.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cjg2j/nasl_not_allowed_by_blizzard_to_cover_wcs/

Wtf Blizzard. Way to kill esports.


There is like 5-6k less viewers than yesterday... and I'd expect 5-6k more with NASL around. Really bad decision making from blizzard.

I don't like Blizzard's handling of WCS in general. What was the point, again? Was it to promote regional play? Because WCS America is going to be invaded by like two dozen mid to top-tier Koreans. EU has like 4-6 Koreans (none of which I'd consider top-tier, except maybe Tails) in the quals alone, not including the invites to the Premier league. But the part that stings the most is that we won't see foreigners competing in the GSL anymore because of this exclusive/lock system. And the top Koreans won't be coming over to MLG anymore unless they're locked to WCS America. And then the reduced Korean prize pool (from last year). And how there was little communication and time given to the teams/players to prepare for this.



uuh top Korean's can still come to MLG events just like Dreamhacks and IEM's, that has nothing to do with WCS. Why wouldn't they come? The did in the past so why would they stop?

MLG Pro Circuit is going to be the new WCS America Code S, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was MLG = Code S America, IEM = Code S EU, and GSL = Code S Korea.

So if you're playing in the official MLG or IEM or GSL circuit, you can't compete in the other two.

P.S. I forgot to mention MVP.Finale as another mid/top-tier Korean in the EU quals


No, wrong except that GSL = WCS Korea.

MLG Pro Circuit and IEM are completely separate from WCS NA and EU, except that they might grant additional WCS points (like other events that are independent from WCS).

isn't it GSL+OSL = WCS KR ?


Oh yeah, OSL, too.

Anyone knows how WCS KR works?
1 WCS KR season = 1season GSL + 1 season OSL?
or it's 1 WCS OSL, 2 WCS GSL ?
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:23:51
April 17 2013 21:22 GMT
#5856
(P)White-Ra 0-0 (Z)XlorD : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/sc2tv_ru & http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain - http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe (WHY SO MANY ?!)
(Z)Ziktomini 1-0 (Z)XiGua : http://www.twitch.tv/genetikk45
(P)TAiLS 1-0 (P)ShoWTimE : http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/
(T)Naama 0-0 (P)Welmu : http://www.twitch.tv/tffmrpink & http://www.twitch.tv/azhrak/old
(P)Adelscott 0-0 (P)PandaTank : http://www.twitch.tv/gamerpet
(P)finale 0-0 (Z)Tefel : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland2
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
April 17 2013 21:23 GMT
#5857
Welmu vs. Naama: http://www.twitch.tv/azhrak/old

By Fuzer in Finnish.
why even
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 17 2013 21:23 GMT
#5858
On April 18 2013 06:19 Reactivate wrote:
Harstem is like the Dutch Pandatank. He made the final (32) bracket in all 4 QF's if I'm not mistaken. Next round he's up against White/LaLush.


In all honesty I'm rooting quite hard for PandaTank since the second qualifier. His regularity his quite impressive for a player of his profile, who's almost never played at pro-level in tournaments.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4391 Posts
April 17 2013 21:24 GMT
#5859
damnit all koreans on the bottom...
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
April 17 2013 21:24 GMT
#5860
Zikto switched to NA server to help XiGua's latency despite having every right to remain on EU cause of the nature of WCS EU, thats such a kind thing to do
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
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