Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
Speaking for myself only I already have a high confidence in Jaedongs abilities and he has had some noteworthy success where Bisu has the ability but hasn't put it together so I show him big support in the hopes he can catch up with the other TBLS members in terms of results.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
cause we want to live the life
Out of all the possible replies to that post, this has to be the best. <3
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
.. What? JD hasn't really accomplished anything yet in SC2. His record is much better than Bisu's in PL and I don't count an eight man invitational where it's your sponsors bringing you in to have much merit at all. To me JD still has a loooooooong way to go. Bisu has a much longer road ahead. The reason why you don't see it is because there's so many newer guys to Starcraft they just don't understand the history or appreciate it as much. In either case I'd say both JD and Bisu still have a ton to prove when it comes to SC2.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
Since he beat savior, the Bisu-fans never stopped going on about him. And seemingly never will, even though JD is, and always has been, at least ten times cooler than Bisu ever will be.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
Cos Bisu is the king of Protoss (best race), facial aesthetics, looking good in leather, Proleague ace matches (sup Flash), and just life in general.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
pretty sure if Bisu got to play SPL, his result would have been equal to that of JD
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
pretty sure if Bisu got to play SPL, his result would have been equal to that of JD
No bisu did play in SPL and lost like all his matches for a long time. He went on like a 7 game losing streak before finally getting a victory. There is a reason the stopped fielding him .
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
pretty sure if Bisu got to play SPL, his result would have been equal to that of JD
No bisu did play in SPL and lost like all his matches for a long time. He went on like a 7 game losing streak before finally getting a victory. There is a reason the stopped fielding him .
Apparently you can bet real money on this, which sort of surprises me given that it's a less-than-serious showmatch.... but you can bet on the NFL Pro Bowl too, so I guess that's not a huge obstacle. Right now TBLS are decent favorites, which sort of surprises me actually...
On March 31 2013 14:56 opterown wrote: an allkill means that only one player on tbls will win, i think you mean teamwipe?
I have never even heard that term in the great amount of time ive spent on this forum. Team all kill if it makes you happy. Each of the 4 winning their match.
On March 31 2013 14:30 bduddy wrote: Apparently you can bet real money on this, which sort of surprises me given that it's a less-than-serious showmatch.... but you can bet on the NFL Pro Bowl too, so I guess that's not a huge obstacle. Right now TBLS are decent favorites, which sort of surprises me actually...
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
pretty sure if Bisu got to play SPL, his result would have been equal to that of JD
No bisu did play in SPL and lost like all his matches for a long time. He went on like a 7 game losing streak before finally getting a victory. There is a reason the stopped fielding him .
On March 31 2013 14:07 Arceus wrote: The matchup is as followed:
1st. FlashNeo Planet SZerO 2nd. Daybreak 3rd. Star Station 4th. Whirlwind 5th. Newkirk Precint (the modified one?) 6th. Belshir Vestige 7th. Akilon Wastes
On March 31 2013 14:00 blade55555 wrote:
On March 31 2013 13:48 Arceus wrote:
On March 31 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote: Why do so many people like Bisu? I know he has lots of fans from the Brood war days, but like, shouldn't Jaedong have lots of fans too then? He achieved more in SC2 than Bisu, and people don't seem to cheer for the BW legends very much from what I've seen anyways.
pretty sure if Bisu got to play SPL, his result would have been equal to that of JD
No bisu did play in SPL and lost like all his matches for a long time. He went on like a 7 game losing streak before finally getting a victory. There is a reason the stopped fielding him .
he went like 1-2 in Round 1 and stopped playing
He was on losing streak of 6
thats ancient history sir (even if you count the franken SPL, Bisu was actually on winning streak toward the end)
I just turned in. Why were they using take command in the replay instead of recover game? Edit: Seems like they are replaying the Flash vs roro game but Jaedong plays as roro?
On March 31 2013 18:08 Eury wrote: I just turned in. Why were they using take command in the replay instead of recover game? Edit: Seems like they are replaying the Flash vs roro game but Jaedong plays as roro?
Yeah that was silly. If they wanted to do a flash vs jaedong have it be a normal game. hard to play from another players perspective lol. They also resumed in a bad spot to for jaedong how silly wish they had done an actual show match.
Flash's upgrades that game were insanely fast, or perhaps Zero's midgame was just delayed by too much because of his baneling aggression. By the time he got mutas out flash's upgrades were too good for them to be effective.
i want to make a post about one of the girl's in the audience but i don't think that kind of post would be received very kindly by the trigger happy SC2 LR mods :<
The problem with that game was the fact that Flash was great and ZerO lost a lot of steam after the first banebust attempt. The second lingbling runby was a good one, but he needed like atleast one more of those. Too bad Flash sent units in both directions.
All hail the almighty MIND CAT, lol. (Shouldn't have opened twitch chat..)
Flash defended that pretty easily, I wonder if Life would still beat him or he already practiced enough against it and will not lose to it ever again..
On March 31 2013 18:44 Wintex wrote: The problem with that game was the fact that Flash was great and ZerO lost a lot of steam after the first banebust attempt. The second lingbling runby was a good one, but he needed like atleast one more of those. Too bad Flash sent units in both directions.
He made the big mistake of attacking the natural instead of the third base. If you attack natural you have to go for the kill, but he already lost too many units by the time he got there. Third base you guarantee that you kill off all those scvs,
On March 31 2013 18:44 Wintex wrote: The problem with that game was the fact that Flash was great and ZerO lost a lot of steam after the first banebust attempt. The second lingbling runby was a good one, but he needed like atleast one more of those. Too bad Flash sent units in both directions.
He made the big mistake of attacking the natural instead of the third base. If you attack natural you have to go for the kill, but he already lost too many units by the time he got there. Third base you guarantee that you kill off all those scvs,
On March 31 2013 18:42 Gamegene wrote: i want to make a post about one of the girl's in the audience but i don't think that kind of post would be received very kindly by the trigger happy SC2 LR mods :<
pretty shitty game between Flash vs Zero.
As long as its not something disgusting and you are not a previous offender, I think you are fine.
Saying "wow that was some really QT fangirl in the audience" does not warrant you a ban
On March 31 2013 18:42 Gamegene wrote: i want to make a post about one of the girl's in the audience but i don't think that kind of post would be received very kindly by the trigger happy SC2 LR mods :<
pretty shitty game between Flash vs Zero.
As long as its not something disgusting and you are not a previous offender, I think you are fine.
Saying "wow that was some really QT fangirl in the audience" does not warrant you a ban
nah i was just gonna call one of the girls a flower pig, meaning she looks like she would be pretty if she wasn't fat.
only posting this just to make it clear that i'm not the kind of poster from the thread that shall not be named.
Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
YEAH BISU WAS SO BRILLIANT HE COUNTER ATTACKED AND WON THROUGH HIS SUPERIOR MICRO AND DECISION MAKING!
Cynical Gamegene:
Yeah Bisu only won because the Nexus cannon is completely imbalanced and flipped a coin on whether or not his opponent would have an opposing imbalanced spell.
On March 31 2013 18:42 Gamegene wrote: i want to make a post about one of the girl's in the audience but i don't think that kind of post would be received very kindly by the trigger happy SC2 LR mods :<
pretty shitty game between Flash vs Zero.
As long as its not something disgusting and you are not a previous offender, I think you are fine.
Saying "wow that was some really QT fangirl in the audience" does not warrant you a ban
nah i was just gonna call one of the girls a flower pig, meaning she looks like she would be pretty if she wasn't fat.
only posting this just to make it clear that i'm not the kind of poster from the thread that shall not be named.
Rofl kk ^^
On topic: Bisu has 2 wins? Wtf...Hots shows promise :D
On March 31 2013 19:04 Disengaged wrote: Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
Jason Lee has a manly voice tho. And he wasn't bad on the joke front yesterday.
On March 31 2013 19:04 Disengaged wrote: Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
Wow I've never read someone be thankful for SNM. I hope this is a good thing for him.
On March 31 2013 19:04 Disengaged wrote: Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
Jason Lee has a manly voice tho. And he wasn't bad on the joke front yesterday.
Well, I mean he did improve a little back then when he was doing GSL but it wasn't by much.
On March 31 2013 19:05 Gamegene wrote: Positive Gamegene:
YEAH BISU WAS SO BRILLIANT HE COUNTER ATTACKED AND WON THROUGH HIS SUPERIOR MICRO AND DECISION MAKING!
Cynical Gamegene:
Yeah Bisu only won because the Nexus cannon is completely imbalanced and flipped a coin on whether or not his opponent would have an opposing imbalanced spell.
On March 31 2013 19:05 Gamegene wrote: Positive Gamegene:
YEAH BISU WAS SO BRILLIANT HE COUNTER ATTACKED AND WON THROUGH HIS SUPERIOR MICRO AND DECISION MAKING!
Cynical Gamegene:
Yeah Bisu only won because the Nexus cannon is completely imbalanced and flipped a coin on whether or not his opponent would have an opposing imbalanced spell.
Imbalance in a mirror matchup o_O
I believe that's called defenders advantage lol.
It's not an imbalance, but it can still be overpowered.
These commentators are very BW-like, in other words, they don't know much but are not afraid of giving their opinions/predictions to a (supposedly) equally uninformed crowd.
But someone should tell them that it isn't BW anymore, and that they should raise their standards. Most people watching the stream now actually "get" high-level Starcraft 2, at least to a far higher degree than them.
On March 31 2013 19:04 Disengaged wrote: Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
Wow I've never read someone be thankful for SNM. I hope this is a good thing for him.
On March 31 2013 19:12 StarscreamG1 wrote: So much haters to the photon overcharge.. Yeah, a thing that "nerfs" all-ins is really bad to the game -.- Defenders advantage, deal with it.
On March 31 2013 19:12 StarscreamG1 wrote: So much haters to the photon overcharge.. Yeah, a thing that "nerfs" all-ins is really bad to the game -.- Defenders advantage, deal with it.
It's not even that but it also is one of the few ways protoss can deal with turbovac harass without committing to air. The nexus cannon overall is nothing but good to the game, so i have a very hard time understanding why people dislike it >_>
On March 31 2013 19:04 Disengaged wrote: Just tuned in and thank god snm is back lol. I dunno how much longer I could've handled the other guy . . . forgot his name but I still remember him from the GSL days when he was commentating.
Wow I've never read someone be thankful for SNM. I hope this is a good thing for him.
On March 31 2013 19:11 SiroKO wrote: These commentators are very BW-like, in other words, they don't know much but are not afraid of giving their opinions/predictions to an equally uninformed crowd.
But someone should tell them that it isn't BW anymore, and that they should raise their standards. Most people watching the stream now actually "get" high-level Starcraft 2, at least to a far higher degree than them.
On March 31 2013 19:11 SiroKO wrote: These commentators are very BW-like, in other words, they don't know much but are not afraid of giving their opinions/predictions to a (supposedly) equally uninformed crowd.
But someone should tell them that it isn't BW anymore, and that they should raise their standards. Most people watching the stream now actually "get" high-level Starcraft 2, at least to a far higher degree than them.
So why even listen if you are so high level? and understand everything?.
yeah and the BW stuff u are talking about is total nonsense rofl.
Can we stop discussing this matter. Casters are NOT Tastosis or Apollo+anyone. Don't like 'em, don't listen. That being said, I'd like to see SNM+Apollo. For the fun of it.
On March 31 2013 19:12 StarscreamG1 wrote: So much haters to the photon overcharge.. Yeah, a thing that "nerfs" all-ins is really bad to the game -.- Defenders advantage, deal with it.
It's not even that but it also is one of the few ways protoss can deal with turbovac harass without committing to air. The nexus cannon overall is nothing but good to the game, so i have a very hard time understanding why people dislike it >_>
It's a lot more hated early game. No way real way to punish Protoss for investing money in oracles and a stargate (which wouldn't contribute anything past killing scvs at the start). What would require 5 sentries to defend an early attack only requires the MSC and maybe 2 sentries at most after the Protoss player has already killed however many SCVs.
It's not like missile turrets or photon cannons. MSC contributes good powerful spells throughout the game so you will always have them. MSC is good for harassment in the early game and scouting. Photon overcharge doesn't actually cost anything to the Protoss besides mana on the MSC that they're already going to have. Imagine if a Terran player could drop down a temporary missile turret like a mule to deal with an oracle harass. It practically costs nothing, let's you get away with a lot greedier tech, it's available for practically all attacks possible and it's not static defense at all.
And this is just talking about the implications the MSC has in a build order and resource management. What photon overcharge actually does is in my opinion wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too strong, just because you can't actually kill probes unless you overkill with your entire army by shift queing (the ai will target the nexus only, and even if you hold position half your units will attack the nexus anyways). Not to mention that fucking range and time duration.
I would be a lot more okay with the spell if it used chronoboost on a nexus for time duration. Would be a lot more reasonable than having to wait a full minute each time it's cast or having to wait another minute when he casts again by the end of the first spell.
On March 31 2013 19:34 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: That "Pack Your Gear for You" ceremony has got to be my favorite. Right up there with stripping down and running onto the beach.
And the Yugioh ceremony and drum ceremony from HiyA!
I like this format, I mean of course it is somehow unfair if you are playing against TBLS, but imagine this format years ago in bw, e.g. when JD was at Oz...
On March 31 2013 20:41 algue wrote: I can't find Bisu vs sOs, do you know where I could find it ?
ESportsTV didn't upload today's vods instantly like they always do for some reason. I'm waiting for vods as well because I didn't get to watch Flash vs Soulkey. Just wait, they will be there.
On March 31 2013 22:44 purakushi wrote: Yay, glad Bisu won his game.
Sad that the second part of the match was so short. Why would you send out Flash first? T_T He should be the final boss. >_< Oh, well.
I think Soulkey got to choose who he wanted to face first(?). Commentators said something along the lines of 'looks like he wants to get the worst out of the way first'. Well, it didn't work :p
I can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this... People used to joke around back in the days about what would happen with a Taekbang Leessang team. I'm gonna have to look through all the VODs now.
Yeeeeah Bisu! I do not get why he hasn't been playing anyways when he is certainly not the worst of the kespa players and after the hybrid league he was able to beat roro. I bet the lack of play time has done more damage to his confidence and motivation than anything.
Can someone tell me why the sc2proleague channel on Twitch buffers slow like hell? I takes forever to buffer SPL VoDs, no matter if I use a 100mbit or my 6Mbit Connection.
On April 01 2013 07:54 Hadley88 wrote: Can someone tell me why the sc2proleague channel on Twitch buffers slow like hell? I takes forever to buffer SPL VoDs, no matter if I use a 100mbit or my 6Mbit Connection.
On April 01 2013 02:46 kollin wrote: Flash is just looking unbeatable, the only player that can match him at the moment is Life :O
To utterly destroy someone is not to "match" someone =D
Life didn't utterly destroy him, he just beat him solidly.
There's a proper spectrum for these things:
Got Lucky: When the winner should have lost Squeeked By: When the winner almost lost Won: When the winner wins. Solid Win: When the winner controls the entire match Utter Destruction: When the winner completely and totally dominates every aspect of every set. The Pain: When the loser GG's before the match has even begun.
On April 01 2013 02:46 kollin wrote: Flash is just looking unbeatable, the only player that can match him at the moment is Life :O
To utterly destroy someone is not to "match" someone =D
Life didn't utterly destroy him, he just beat him solidly.
There's a proper spectrum for these things:
Got Lucky: When the winner should have lost Squeeked By: When the winner almost lost Won: When the winner wins. Solid Win: When the winner controls the entire match Utter Destruction: When the winner completely and totally dominates every aspect of every set. The Pain: When the loser GG's before the match has even begun.
Would foreigners leaving the GSL without playing the games technically "the pain"?
On April 01 2013 02:46 kollin wrote: Flash is just looking unbeatable, the only player that can match him at the moment is Life :O
To utterly destroy someone is not to "match" someone =D
Life didn't utterly destroy him, he just beat him solidly.
There's a proper spectrum for these things:
Got Lucky: When the winner should have lost Squeeked By: When the winner almost lost Won: When the winner wins. Solid Win: When the winner controls the entire match Utter Destruction: When the winner completely and totally dominates every aspect of every set. The Pain: When the loser GG's before the match has even begun.
Would foreigners leaving the GSL without playing the games technically "the pain"?
On April 01 2013 02:46 kollin wrote: Flash is just looking unbeatable, the only player that can match him at the moment is Life :O
To utterly destroy someone is not to "match" someone =D
Life didn't utterly destroy him, he just beat him solidly.
There's a proper spectrum for these things:
Got Lucky: When the winner should have lost Squeeked By: When the winner almost lost Won: When the winner wins. Solid Win: When the winner controls the entire match Utter Destruction: When the winner completely and totally dominates every aspect of every set. The Pain: When the loser GG's before the match has even begun.
Would foreigners leaving the GSL without playing the games technically "the pain"?
On April 01 2013 02:46 kollin wrote: Flash is just looking unbeatable, the only player that can match him at the moment is Life :O
To utterly destroy someone is not to "match" someone =D
Life didn't utterly destroy him, he just beat him solidly.
There's a proper spectrum for these things:
Got Lucky: When the winner should have lost Squeeked By: When the winner almost lost Won: When the winner wins. Solid Win: When the winner controls the entire match Utter Destruction: When the winner completely and totally dominates every aspect of every set. The Pain: When the loser GG's before the match has even begun.
Would foreigners leaving the GSL without playing the games technically "the pain"?
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