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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1641
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1642
On March 09 2013 23:10 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:09 Scrubwave wrote:
I thought hots pvp was supposed to be more entertaining.


Where on earth did you hear that? WoL PvP was actually good but HotS turns into VR wars which is even worse than Colossi.


Agreed. At least colossus required both players to attempt to achieve the better concave.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1643
On March 09 2013 23:12 Geos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:09 pepe08 wrote:
WHY is every pro fighting voidrays with their charge ability aktiv?????
WHYYYYYYYYY??
i dont get it


It's not really possible to retreat from the fight without taking massive damage so you're screwed either way. David Kims idea seems poorly thought out.


Yes, the dps is too high. You lose half your army before you are out of the battle.
I think the new voidray isn't designed that well. Voidrays in WoL were more micro intensive, you had to prepare their charge, etc.
But with the new ones, you just hit the button, a-click and watch your enemies melt.
Why not give the voidray a corruptor-like ability, where you have to aim manually?
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1644
I don't think disengage it's possible, but it can be baited with some kind of feint. Let's see if pros figure out some way.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12485 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1645
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


Yeah well, it's not like engaging gave him better results...
Yonghwa lacked blink to get into the main and focus those voids more efficiently, and he should never have engaged at that choke... Pretty disappointing
No will to live, no wish to die
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1646
Yonghwa man don't go out with a 3-0 please...c'mon!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1647
On March 09 2013 23:14 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


the moment the "balance report" was released saying people should do that i lost a lot of faith ^^


I can see yonghwa going up to david kim after this match.

Y: What am I suppose to do in that engagement Mr. Kim?
DK: Blink away noob lol.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1648
blizzard screwed up the voidray at wol and hots release, the unit is so strange its either op or useless it seems
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12485 Posts
March 09 2013 14:18 GMT
#1649
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That's some compelling stuff that you wrote there.
No will to live, no wish to die
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1650
On March 09 2013 23:10 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
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On March 09 2013 23:09 Ace Frehley wrote:
Lesson learned: Voidray > Collossus


Lesson learned: Voidray > Everything, except more Voidrays.


In WoL yes in HotS no. 4 supply makes them bad against a couple of things.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1651
On March 09 2013 23:14 RiZu wrote:
I guess First will go to the Final now. Yonghwa =(

First is going to win because he was the only player Artosis didn't predict as a possible winner during Sotg. Admittedly he is a good player and I cheer for him often but I really wanted YongHwa to take this tournament. There's still a little hope left though.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1652
On March 09 2013 23:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That's some compelling stuff that you wrote there.


Atleast my stuff is true and i am not only butt hurt because Terrans beat everything else atm in HotS
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1653
On March 09 2013 23:16 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:14 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


the moment the "balance report" was released saying people should do that i lost a lot of faith ^^


I can see yonghwa going up to david kim after this match.

Y: What am I suppose to do in that engagement Mr. Kim?
DK: Blink away noob lol.


Y: What about my colossi and sentries?
DK: Well, why don't you build voidrays?
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1654
--- Nuked ---
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1655
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..

You're right it's not an option. TvT is worse.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1656
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That convinced me ! TvT is the best !
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 14:20 GMT
#1657
sick time warp
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1658
On March 09 2013 23:19 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..

You're right it's not an option. TvT is worse.


Then tell me, what makes ZvZ and PvP so much better? TvT got lots of different openings and ways to play. ZvZ is kind of okay, but it was just too much the last months. PvP is colossi < more colossi. thats some deep strategy shit there
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1659
Yonghwa so many mistakes. He's dead now.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1660
meh, first made a mistake in game 2 that made it seem closer than it was, but yongwha played like crap for 3 games.
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