• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:41
CET 20:41
KST 04:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)37
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Provigil(modafinil) pills Cape Town+27 81 850 2816
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1188 users

[IEM] World Championship Day 5 - Page 83

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 132 Next
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1641
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1642
On March 09 2013 23:10 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:09 Scrubwave wrote:
I thought hots pvp was supposed to be more entertaining.


Where on earth did you hear that? WoL PvP was actually good but HotS turns into VR wars which is even worse than Colossi.


Agreed. At least colossus required both players to attempt to achieve the better concave.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1643
On March 09 2013 23:12 Geos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:09 pepe08 wrote:
WHY is every pro fighting voidrays with their charge ability aktiv?????
WHYYYYYYYYY??
i dont get it


It's not really possible to retreat from the fight without taking massive damage so you're screwed either way. David Kims idea seems poorly thought out.


Yes, the dps is too high. You lose half your army before you are out of the battle.
I think the new voidray isn't designed that well. Voidrays in WoL were more micro intensive, you had to prepare their charge, etc.
But with the new ones, you just hit the button, a-click and watch your enemies melt.
Why not give the voidray a corruptor-like ability, where you have to aim manually?
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
March 09 2013 14:15 GMT
#1644
I don't think disengage it's possible, but it can be baited with some kind of feint. Let's see if pros figure out some way.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12383 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1645
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


Yeah well, it's not like engaging gave him better results...
Yonghwa lacked blink to get into the main and focus those voids more efficiently, and he should never have engaged at that choke... Pretty disappointing
No will to live, no wish to die
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1646
Yonghwa man don't go out with a 3-0 please...c'mon!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1647
On March 09 2013 23:14 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


the moment the "balance report" was released saying people should do that i lost a lot of faith ^^


I can see yonghwa going up to david kim after this match.

Y: What am I suppose to do in that engagement Mr. Kim?
DK: Blink away noob lol.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#1648
blizzard screwed up the voidray at wol and hots release, the unit is so strange its either op or useless it seems
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12383 Posts
March 09 2013 14:18 GMT
#1649
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That's some compelling stuff that you wrote there.
No will to live, no wish to die
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1650
On March 09 2013 23:10 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:09 Ace Frehley wrote:
Lesson learned: Voidray > Collossus


Lesson learned: Voidray > Everything, except more Voidrays.


In WoL yes in HotS no. 4 supply makes them bad against a couple of things.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1651
On March 09 2013 23:14 RiZu wrote:
I guess First will go to the Final now. Yonghwa =(

First is going to win because he was the only player Artosis didn't predict as a possible winner during Sotg. Admittedly he is a good player and I cheer for him often but I really wanted YongHwa to take this tournament. There's still a little hope left though.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1652
On March 09 2013 23:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That's some compelling stuff that you wrote there.


Atleast my stuff is true and i am not only butt hurt because Terrans beat everything else atm in HotS
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1653
On March 09 2013 23:16 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:14 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:14 sitromit wrote:
How is he supposed to disengage? He's going to take a ton of damage and lose all of his Colossi if he backs off.


the moment the "balance report" was released saying people should do that i lost a lot of faith ^^


I can see yonghwa going up to david kim after this match.

Y: What am I suppose to do in that engagement Mr. Kim?
DK: Blink away noob lol.


Y: What about my colossi and sentries?
DK: Well, why don't you build voidrays?
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1654
--- Nuked ---
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1655
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..

You're right it's not an option. TvT is worse.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 09 2013 14:19 GMT
#1656
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..


That convinced me ! TvT is the best !
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 14:20 GMT
#1657
sick time warp
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1658
On March 09 2013 23:19 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:15 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 09 2013 23:13 Nebuchad wrote:
As usual terrans so insecure they feel the need to bash us in with the idea that there is a best match-up and it's theirs... This is the reason why no one cared when you started losing everything bros...


Go ask other Protoss players that are not in bronze league. TvT > other mirrors. Everybody is tired of ZvZ and PvP is only lazers. its not an opinion that TvT is better..

You're right it's not an option. TvT is worse.


Then tell me, what makes ZvZ and PvP so much better? TvT got lots of different openings and ways to play. ZvZ is kind of okay, but it was just too much the last months. PvP is colossi < more colossi. thats some deep strategy shit there
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1659
Yonghwa so many mistakes. He's dead now.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 09 2013 14:21 GMT
#1660
meh, first made a mistake in game 2 that made it seem closer than it was, but yongwha played like crap for 3 games.
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 132 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 230
UpATreeSC 212
ProTech140
JuggernautJason109
BRAT_OK 81
SKillous 65
MindelVK 35
SpeCial 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 86
NaDa 11
Dota 2
qojqva3015
Dendi807
420jenkins308
League of Legends
C9.Mang0154
Counter-Strike
fl0m3962
Fnx 1190
pashabiceps768
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor159
Other Games
Grubby4280
FrodaN1476
Beastyqt1063
B2W.Neo333
Liquid`Hasu222
QueenE162
Harstem142
ArmadaUGS113
Mew2King90
TKL 88
Livibee75
minikerr8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 17
• Reevou 3
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 54
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4624
League of Legends
• Nemesis6803
• imaqtpie1884
• TFBlade1240
• Shiphtur453
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
14h 19m
HomeStory Cup
1d 16h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-27
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.