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On March 09 2013 19:47 Giriath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 19:44 Daralii wrote:On March 09 2013 19:40 Giriath wrote:On March 09 2013 19:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
Too passive. Zerg can't win if they just sit there and let Protoss build that army composition. I really don't like this argument. If both players are passive and build tier three armies, one should not be vastly more powerful than the other. I've been withholding any opinions on balance, but I'm beginning to suspect that void rays are too powerful in ZvP. It was like that in BW. If toss let terran get 200/200, you flat out lost unless you massively outskilled your opponent. Unless the other races are more powerful than toss in the early and midgame then this isn't proper balance. And it's not fun to play or watch anyway if you don't ever get to see late-game vs Protoss.
In BW if the game ever got to real late game in ZvP, Zerg almost always had a huge economic lead due to the Protoss needing to be defensive yielding map dominance to the Zerg.
This allowed Zergs to throw multiple waves of troops at the more cost efficient Protoss army.
Look at how that game looked for Violet. He was on equal bases with First for almost all of that. If this was BW he would have had to be on at least 2 additional bases before he even THOUGHT about trading.
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On March 09 2013 19:47 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 19:45 Musicus wrote:On March 09 2013 19:45 Glubschauge wrote:still no crowd there?  I think it's full today, but germans don't cheer! Yeah, and IEM doesn't have the microphones on the crowd of certain tournaments.
Yeah, at cebit and gamescom the hall would be too loud on the stream, and the crowd is not a pure e-sports crowd, many are just curious to see what's going on there.
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Violet is playing soooooooooo greedy .. Any gateway agression would have kill him .
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Ya first, just keep wasting 100 minerals...
edit: 900 minerals lost now.
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The rolls really turned huh in PvZ haha, nice play by Violet.
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Khaleris needs to be a little less emphatic, it's akin to typing in pure italics.
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thats the way for zerg to win, Make some allin and try to cripple protoss economy so he can't mass the deathball, fail and you die.
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Ahhahahah the zerglings kill the Collossus.
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Wow. I feel First is quite inferior to YongHwa.
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I think toss needs to be shifted away from the hard counter units like collosus/immortals etc etc.... and into a more well rounded set of units
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On March 09 2013 19:52 Integra wrote:
thats the way for zerg to win, Make some allin and try to cripple protoss economy so he can't mass the deathball, fail and you die.
Violet's not all in from here. He's taken a 4th behind it and now he's droning again.
He's now 2 bases up on his opponent which gives him some comfort room. Unless First all ins and kills him from here Violet should be going forward with a pretty big lead.
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First so greedy in this game.
Phoenix into Colossi+blink+third
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shit, such cool play all-over by violet ^^
btw this was a 'gimmicky all-in', according to forumzergs
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Good Zerg midgame agression ^.^
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Is it glitched that it doesn't sometimes auto-cancel?
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Gogo viOLet! Looking good for now!
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First on 78 probes on 2 bases? :D
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On March 09 2013 19:54 DJHelium wrote:
First on 78 probes on 2 bases? :D
He was on 3 but Violet sniped the Nexus. He didnt kill any of the Probes that's where the excess came from.
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EPT
