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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 07 2013 10:02 GMT
#581
Speed medivacs, aggression without risk
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#582
On March 07 2013 19:02 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Wow so many people bashing that drop. He still would have got out without losing a medivac with no speed.....

Going out safe was not the problem. On the other hand, passing over an entire army to get to the main base without losing a medivac...

oh yeah god i bet it was scary to fly over that army of zealots
Maruprime.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#583
On March 07 2013 18:59 thepuppyassassin wrote:
LOL i'm calling it now. MVP will be responsible for the medivac nerf like just like he was for the ghost nerf.


the barracks nerf was partly due to Mvp (and other terrans) ability to micro the 2 rax with SCVs. He also stopped the ravens from getting a buff when he won IEM.

Since he has been the top terran for pretty much the length of WoL, most terran nerfs can be traced to him.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#584
On March 07 2013 19:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:00 Big J wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:52 Big J wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:49 Geos13 wrote:
While I don't think Grubby lost because of balance reasons, I don't understand how HotS PvT and WoL PvT can both be considered balanced. It's pretty much the same except with massively buffed medivacs... Having one high health photon cannon isn't going to deter a drop.


GSL TvP has always been 60:40 or better for Terran, apart from early to mid 2012

Stop spreading bullshit


2011: GSL sponsor tournaments: 57%
2011: GSL super tournament 2011: 74%
2012: GSL Seasons 1,2,3, 4: 48-53%
2012: GSL Seasons 5: 58%
2013: GSL Sseaons 1: 60%

Funny, when people deny commentaries that are build upon measurable data.

Lol! 6-4! 10 games xD


it's Code A+S: 39W / 26L
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#585
haha just warming up, takes off his jacket after the game lol!
byah!
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#586
hah.. ggs.. mvp is definitely good.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#587
One down, four to go. gogo Mvp!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#588
On March 07 2013 19:00 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:52 Big J wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:49 Geos13 wrote:
While I don't think Grubby lost because of balance reasons, I don't understand how HotS PvT and WoL PvT can both be considered balanced. It's pretty much the same except with massively buffed medivacs... Having one high health photon cannon isn't going to deter a drop.


GSL TvP has always been 60:40 or better for Terran, apart from early to mid 2012

Stop spreading bullshit


2011: GSL sponsor tournaments: 57%
2011: GSL super tournament 2011: 74%
2012: GSL Seasons 1,2,3, 4: 48-53%
2012: GSL Seasons 5: 58%
2013: GSL Sseaons 1: 60%

Funny, when people deny commentaries that are build upon measurable data.


So the vast majority of 2012 was 50-50 and this year has a tiny sample size? cool beans.

You sure showed him!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#589
I just don't get why medivac speed booster was necessary... Anyone? Isn't this unit used in every terran game ever? It's a healing dropship, it was strong in wol and it just feels like an unwarranted buff. Don't get it..
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#590
I dont know if Grubby wasn't playing well, or MVP is actually just WAY better than grubby. like completely out of his league.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#591
On March 07 2013 19:02 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Wow so many people bashing that drop. He still would have got out without losing a medivac with no speed.....

Going out safe was not the problem. On the other hand, passing over an entire army to get to the main base without losing a medivac...


It's more the reaction time. They move so fast when he moved into the main that by the time he could react they were already in the main. Those could make the kessel run in less then 12 parsecs .
When I think of something else, something will go here
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#592
On March 07 2013 19:03 simmeh wrote:
haha just warming up, takes off his jacket after the game lol!


MVP is heated with the tears of protoss.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#593
On March 07 2013 19:01 Thrillz wrote:
lmao relax guys, Mvp makes everything broken. If foreigner Terrans start beating Koreans with this then I'm a believer in nerf.


First two years of WoL- impeccably balanced. They just patched the game because too many skilled players played terran.

Good start by MVP but lets see how he lasts.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#594
On March 07 2013 19:03 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:00 Big J wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:53 IshinShishi wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:52 Big J wrote:
On March 07 2013 18:49 Geos13 wrote:
While I don't think Grubby lost because of balance reasons, I don't understand how HotS PvT and WoL PvT can both be considered balanced. It's pretty much the same except with massively buffed medivacs... Having one high health photon cannon isn't going to deter a drop.


GSL TvP has always been 60:40 or better for Terran, apart from early to mid 2012

Stop spreading bullshit


2011: GSL sponsor tournaments: 57%
2011: GSL super tournament 2011: 74%
2012: GSL Seasons 1,2,3, 4: 48-53%
2012: GSL Seasons 5: 58%
2013: GSL Sseaons 1: 60%

Funny, when people deny commentaries that are build upon measurable data.

Lol! 6-4! 10 games xD


it's Code A+S: 39W / 26L

ah ok haha. I thought you were using just code S. was about to say
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Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#595
MVP! Whooooo!
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 07 2013 10:03 GMT
#596
On March 07 2013 19:01 Thrillz wrote:
lmao relax guys, Mvp makes everything broken. If foreigner Terrans start beating Koreans with this then I'm a believer in nerf.


It's not about that though, it's blatantly obvious medivacs speed boost is too strong in its current state.
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
March 07 2013 10:04 GMT
#597
So we are using a game between a foriegner and the best person to ever touch this game for balance discussion?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 07 2013 10:04 GMT
#598
Will be great in middle late game when protoss needs more than 2 bases, Goodluck defending that!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
March 07 2013 10:04 GMT
#599
Good job MVP!
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 07 2013 10:04 GMT
#600
Good work Mvp!
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