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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#661
that was so entertaining. very different from WoL ZvP.
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#662
On February 25 2013 20:12 Dodgin wrote:
I think Sleep should have tried to do more damage in the midgame, letting First get his maxed army instead of pushing his third base was a bad idea.

He did try to go heavy tier 2, actually. What else could he have done, when a bunch colosus is out, with void rays incoming.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#663
I feel as though if Sleep had massed a number of Corrupters, and a-moved to kill all the Collosi, the Swarm Hosts would just dominate. Too safe maybe?

Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#664
I can see now why the IPL HotS KR qualifier was all PvP past the first few rounds. Hahaha.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#665
On February 25 2013 20:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 20:11 Confuse wrote:
On February 25 2013 20:08 Confuse wrote:
the inevitability of the swarm hosts is... wow. beautiful. such an interesting style


... and nevermind, protoss wins lol


Sleep had all his drones at the left side expansions killed by 4 zealots...


That's not even true, they killed a hatch if I'm not mistaken, nothing more.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#666
This is exactly the same as the old deathball lol, the third phase of Voidray dps was removed for a reason.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#667
i think sleep had corruptor and hydras in the same control group. he was clumping so much. with better control he probably could have one that easily because the fourth base of protoss was delayed for ages and sleep himself was on 5 or 6 bases.
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#668
On February 25 2013 20:12 Pandemona wrote:
Biggest throw in HOTS so far that?

First had an advanced lead in early to mid game
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a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#669
VR badly needs a nerf.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#670
Storms so painful
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#671
On February 25 2013 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On February 25 2013 20:11 RowdierBob wrote:
Haha, what just happened? Swarm hosts looks pretty weak once P moves past gateway units.


Easier said than done. First's midgame defense was pretty solid, although as a lot of us were saying that the Zerg really needed a Nydus added in with that midgame push. It helps so much with that kind of push.

Nydus adds nothing to that push aside from wasting gas, not on that map in those positions.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#672
swarmhosts with nydus wouldve been cool to see. That way you can keep pushing with ur locust from all sorts of angles. Not sure if it wouldve mattered on this map though.
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SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 11:14:57
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#673
I think getting tier 3 at all against that protoss army is just a waste of supply. Need as much air killing stuff as possible
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#674
On February 25 2013 20:12 Arco wrote:
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On February 25 2013 20:11 avilo wrote:
Now imagine if he were maxed on same comp with mass tempest and those templar. Zerg cannot win vs this lol.

I heard mobile static defense and Vipers are good units.


Turtle skytoss with storm is considered more or less unbeatable by zerg in the late game atm. It may be underdeveloped metagame or it may be balance issues, I don't know, but right now there doesn't seem to be a very good answer to that composition.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 25 2013 11:14 GMT
#675
On February 25 2013 20:13 ETisME wrote:
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On February 25 2013 20:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 25 2013 20:11 Irratonalys wrote:
how do you beat this as zerg?


Not getting your drones murdered by 4 zealots, not running through storms.

why would that help? It's not like zerg was low on economy lol


Actually sleep had no bank after he had to replace some of his army. He should've had a 1000/1000 bank at that point, he was on 5 bases and had a standing army for some time. He was WAY low on economy compared to where he should have been.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#676
On February 25 2013 20:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 20:12 Dodgin wrote:
I think Sleep should have tried to do more damage in the midgame, letting First get his maxed army instead of pushing his third base was a bad idea.

He did try to go heavy tier 2, actually. What else could he have done, when a bunch colosus is out, with void rays incoming.


He didn't try to siege up First's third base at all is what I meant, he could have split off 2 or 3 Swarm Host's to try to kill it. He pushed too slowly.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#677
On February 25 2013 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 20:11 RowdierBob wrote:
Haha, what just happened? Swarm hosts looks pretty weak once P moves past gateway units.


Easier said than done. First's midgame defense was pretty solid, although as a lot of us were saying that the Zerg really needed a Nydus added in with that midgame push. It helps so much with that kind of push.

This. Midgame the SH is so strong. SH, corruptor, ling/hydra is such a good composition with overseers to spot observers. But if the Protoss manages to hit that late game composition things get very rough.
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
February 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#678

Not getting your drones murdered by 4 zealots, not running through storms.


how do burrowed units and air units that move slightly slower than tectonic plates dodge storms?
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#679
On February 25 2013 20:14 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
i think sleep had corruptor and hydras in the same control group. he was clumping so much. with better control he probably could have one that easily because the fourth base of protoss was delayed for ages and sleep himself was on 5 or 6 bases.

Yep, Sleep only had 2 control groups, one for hydra/corruptor and the other for swarm hosts.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 25 2013 11:15 GMT
#680
On February 25 2013 20:14 Porishan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 20:12 Pandemona wrote:
Biggest throw in HOTS so far that?

First had an advanced lead in early to mid game


Yeah then it got owned? was like 5/6 base Zerg vs 3 base P as he kept camping out by First's 4th and sniping it? Then he took a stupid engagement and didnt "attempt" to micro any of his units out of storms. Then remaxed on pure hydra....
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