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Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#361
Everytime the camera catches Mvp he never seems happy/amused anymore. Makes me cry inside.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:13:43
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#362
On February 25 2013 19:12 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get how ganzi just suddenly started winning fights, especially when the vipers came out.


The Widow Mine count actually got higher. He was losing before because he didn't have the mine count to really make that bio army cost effective/
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#363
ragnarok needed a quicker 3/3 with some AOE against the bio (either infestors or ultras) - he had the vipers but the 3/3 bio army with a high medivac count with the widow mines make it difficult to fight the bio head on
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#364
On February 25 2013 19:12 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get how ganzi just suddenly started winning fights, especially when the vipers came out.

Ragnarok lost all his hydras to burrowed mines and then the den before the vipers could get enough energy to drop more clouds.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:14:05
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#365
I don't think the mines are what won if for him, I think it was the medivacs. i feel like ragnarok should have focused the medivacs instead of attacking the army for some of the engagements.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#366
Is the gas usage such that the zerg has to choose between vipers and infestors? It seems like a few infestors might've been useful there.

Entertaining game though!
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#367
On February 25 2013 19:12 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get how ganzi just suddenly started winning fights, especially when the vipers came out.


7 widow mines do wonders. With crackvac harras all over your base.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#368
On February 25 2013 19:12 LimitSEA wrote:
MMMM pretty good lol.


Add an expansion?

Just add an M

Terran.

Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:15:11
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#369
On February 25 2013 19:13 Tachion wrote:
Roach/hydra seems to get weaker and weaker the longer the game goes on vs that unit comp of Terran. At that point it really seemed like Ragnarok needed ultras.


Conversely the good thing about the comp Ganzi went for is that it's probably the best set up you can possibly have for megaultralisks.

With Ragnarok going Viper I think he should have tried yank some medivacs back into the hydras so Ganzi lost some of his staying power. The big benefit of tankless play is that Vipers don't fuck you =p
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#370
Finally someone shows a glimpse of how Widow Mines can be abused. Now until someone takes out an entire tier 3 army by rushing in with 30 mines.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#371
Nice! TvZ just got another dimension to it! Roach Hydra vs Bio + Widow mine!
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jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#372
It was 3/3 Upgrades for Ganzi vs 2/2. That's where the massive turn around happened. Plus the medivac count. Made a massive difference.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#373
On February 25 2013 19:10 Asha` wrote:
I don't get why Ragnarok doesn't build at least some splash damage vs bio play.

One of the reasons he's gonna remain a mediocre zerg player...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#374
I already knew, but I am further convinced I know nothing about HotS x.x
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#375
On February 25 2013 19:12 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get how ganzi just suddenly started winning fights, especially when the vipers came out.


He got off 3-4 massive widow mine hits on all of the hydras of ragnoarok and got them into red hp.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#376
Ok Coach, send in Mvp please.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:15:08
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#377
On February 25 2013 19:13 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 19:12 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get how ganzi just suddenly started winning fights, especially when the vipers came out.


The Widow Mine count actually got higher. He was losing before because he didn't have the mine count to really make that bio army cost effective/

the mine didn't do shit in that engagement where Ganzi turned/determine the battle. He simply reached a medivac breaking point where it was healing his units very fast and takes too long for zerg to break it down.

As zerg you need aoe or tech up to t3 before medivacs get too high
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#378
First! :o
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 25 2013 10:14 GMT
#379
First! He didn't play in the ro8 or ro4, didn't expect him.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 25 2013 10:15 GMT
#380
Ragnarok should just have upgraded roach saddle in that situation.
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