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violet's going for 1/1 and khaldor's busy talking about irrelevant shit
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On February 24 2013 16:02 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ?  That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol. Yeah a lot of clever hydra/viper use and a ton of mid/late game examples are blind all ins or their opponent going 2 port banshee. 
Yeah a lot of 2 base roach bane allins and 1base banes are all ins. "Zerg dominance for the past 2 days" involves more then today.
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On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol.
To be fair it goes both ways. Zergs losses have also involved blind allins or retarded games like this.
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On February 24 2013 16:02 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 16:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 24 2013 16:01 Dodgin wrote:On February 24 2013 16:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 24 2013 15:58 Dodgin wrote:On February 24 2013 15:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 24 2013 15:56 Die4Ever wrote:
well I was gonna look up the career head to head for Leenock vs Violet but, IPL5 isn't in TLPD WTF International TLPD wasn't updated for a couple of months. They are slowly adding in tournaments " a couple of months " Didn't they stop in like September/October? or was it earlier It's almost march, man. oh well they've added in several of the big tournaments like NASL, Iron Squid, etc. I guess they are just giving up on everything they are missing from 2012 and adding in 2013 stuff now they should probably stop doing online results if it's too much
Online results never should have been in in the first place, trying to unkeep that with the international TLPD is a full time job.
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I hear all this QQing about Zerg being weak in hots, yet Zerg has won the most games here in the GSTL and half the games today have been ZvZs. I call bullshit. This looks just like Wings of Liberty to me. Not to mention a lot of the tip top Zergs are still playing WoL because they've made it deep into the remaining WoL tournaments.
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On February 24 2013 15:51 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" The casters have been quite biased especially in the HotS games lately... definitely makes the experience less enjoyable.
Sorry, but you are pretty dumb. This is a NEW game and what we are echoing are the thoughts proplayers are having these days, elaborating on the changes and talking about what we are seeing on ladder in highlevel matches. So stop your hating and deal with it
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On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful.
Ragnarok, at least like a few days ago, was the #1 Zerg on the ladder and the only one in like the top 15, and has had all the time in the world to play HotS full-time. He won a ZvZ, a game against Heart who was never particularly good, and a game against Ryung, who was still in the GSL recently (ie playing WoL) and is now on a team with no coach. Then he lost to MMA. Then today, Supernova loses a bunch of Widow Mines to a watchtower, TheBest pulls a TheBest, and Tear loses. You can just look at it as "wow look at all those Zerg wins" but it would be disingenuous.
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On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol.
Another funny thing is even though I expect you to be a zerg supporter, you've been complaining so much these 10ish past days that I sometimes wonder if you actually feel bad when zerg wins, because it goes against your belief system.
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On February 24 2013 16:02 wklbishop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol. To be fair it goes both ways. Zergs losses have also involved blind allins or retarded games like this.
What terran has done a blind all in so far in the gstl hots games?
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On February 24 2013 16:02 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 16:02 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol. Yeah a lot of clever hydra/viper use and a ton of mid/late game examples are blind all ins or their opponent going 2 port banshee. Yeah a lot of 2 base roach bane allins and 1base banes are all ins. "Zerg dominance for the past 2 days" involves more then today.
Hence where I said 2 days.
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I expected Azubu vs FXO to come down to Violet vs Leenock, with Violet edging a victory and Leenock mauling Azubu otherwise. Let's see how wrong I was.
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Damn Violet tearing it up!
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On February 24 2013 16:03 Havik_ wrote:
I hear all this QQing about Zerg being weak in hots, yet Zerg has won the most games here in the GSTL and half the games today have been ZvZs. I call bullshit. This looks just like Wings of Liberty to me. Not to mention a lot of the tip top Zergs are still playing WoL because they've made it deep into the remaining WoL tournaments.
Zerg isn't actually OP in HotS though, the games are going to whoever plays better.
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On February 24 2013 16:04 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 16:02 bo1b wrote:On February 24 2013 16:02 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:58 bo1b wrote:On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. It's almost 50/50 and a ton of the games zerg has won involved blind all ins or games like this lol. Yeah a lot of clever hydra/viper use and a ton of mid/late game examples are blind all ins or their opponent going 2 port banshee. Yeah a lot of 2 base roach bane allins and 1base banes are all ins. "Zerg dominance for the past 2 days" involves more then today. Hence where I said 2 days.
Whoops :p
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On February 24 2013 16:03 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. Ragnarok, at least like a few days ago, was the #1 Zerg on the ladder and the only one in like the top 15, and has had all the time in the world to play HotS full-time.
Yeah because Ragnarok was really top 15 material when he played WoL full-time...
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On February 24 2013 16:03 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. Ragnarok, at least like a few days ago, was the #1 Zerg on the ladder and the only one in like the top 15, and has had all the time in the world to play HotS full-time. He won a ZvZ, a game against Heart who was never particularly good, and a game against Ryung, who was still in the GSL recently (ie playing WoL) and is now on a team with no coach. Then he lost to MMA. Then today, Supernova loses a bunch of Widow Mines to a watchtower, TheBest pulls a TheBest, and Tear loses. You can just look at it as "wow look at all those Zerg wins" but it would be disingenuous.
I don't know, it's too early to say what's going on in pre-season where the game hasn't even released yet. I just don't like people complaining about something being overpowered/underpowered in a beta. I can't think of a beta for any game where something hasn't been broken/too strong/too weak.
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On February 24 2013 16:05 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 16:03 Severian wrote:On February 24 2013 15:55 Maesy wrote:On February 24 2013 15:54 Lysanias wrote:On February 24 2013 15:53 Nebuchad wrote:On February 24 2013 15:43 Bowzar wrote:
Zerg players in this LR and Khaldor these past couple of GSTLs "Zerg would have lost if Terran/Protoss did this or that!" WoL zerg: "But we're not overpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" HotS zerg: "But we're underpowered, we only won because of [insert mistake]" =) You dare to put it here after seeing this game ? That game doesn't really count, but it is pretty obnoxious after seeing zerg dominance for the past 2 days to hear zerg whine they're actually still just awful. Ragnarok, at least like a few days ago, was the #1 Zerg on the ladder and the only one in like the top 15, and has had all the time in the world to play HotS full-time. Yeah because Ragnarok was really top 15 material when he played WoL full-time...
I didn't say he was, and whether he's still possibly the best HotS Zerg in a few months is a different matter. He's clearly one of the best right now, though.
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Leenock actually still has more drones
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EPT
