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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
February 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1221
On February 20 2013 04:42 Dotq wrote:
I wish the focus of EG would be on winning first, and promoting sponsors second.

With all these EG players streaming everyday, they get less real practice, and grants their opponents a way to studdy their playstyle.


You have never watched Stephano's stream then. He has not done a real build on his stream since going to korea. He does mass ling only, troll strategies or plays HoTs. How does this help his opponents?
Red and yellow are all I see
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
February 19 2013 19:50 GMT
#1222
On February 20 2013 04:47 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:42 Dotq wrote:
I wish the focus of EG would be on winning first, and promoting sponsors second.

With all these EG players streaming everyday, they get less real practice, and grants their opponents a way to studdy their playstyle.


You have never watched Stephano's stream then. He has not done a real build on his stream since going to korea. He does mass ling only, troll strategies or plays HoTs. How does this help his opponents?


Many hours of useless builds don't help him either
...
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
February 19 2013 19:51 GMT
#1223
On February 20 2013 04:47 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:42 Dotq wrote:
I wish the focus of EG would be on winning first, and promoting sponsors second.

With all these EG players streaming everyday, they get less real practice, and grants their opponents a way to studdy their playstyle.


You have never watched Stephano's stream then. He has not done a real build on his stream since going to korea. He does mass ling only, troll strategies or plays HoTs. How does this help his opponents?


How is that any better?

Wasting hours everyday to stream troll games..... Now I understand why these guys wont ever be in line with kespa teams.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
February 19 2013 19:51 GMT
#1224
On February 20 2013 04:50 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:47 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:42 Dotq wrote:
I wish the focus of EG would be on winning first, and promoting sponsors second.

With all these EG players streaming everyday, they get less real practice, and grants their opponents a way to studdy their playstyle.


You have never watched Stephano's stream then. He has not done a real build on his stream since going to korea. He does mass ling only, troll strategies or plays HoTs. How does this help his opponents?


Many hours of useless builds don't help him either


Can improve mechanics or micro. Not entirely useless. But certainly not ideal. But we have no idea how much he practices off stream in Korea. I would imagine it is a lot.
Red and yellow are all I see
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
February 19 2013 19:57 GMT
#1225
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
February 19 2013 20:05 GMT
#1226
On February 20 2013 04:57 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.


Stephano's hype is based only on his ladder results or what?
Red and yellow are all I see
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
February 19 2013 20:23 GMT
#1227
On February 20 2013 05:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:57 VManOfMana wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.


Stephano's hype is based only on his ladder results or what?

You can't possibly state that Stephano's tournament results compare to Flash's. Stephano's tournament results aren't impressive on their own. I'm honestly lost on where his hype comes from. If anything his PL results are the most.impressive thing.
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
February 19 2013 20:40 GMT
#1228
On February 20 2013 05:23 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:57 VManOfMana wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.


Stephano's hype is based only on his ladder results or what?

You can't possibly state that Stephano's tournament results compare to Flash's. Stephano's tournament results aren't impressive on their own. I'm honestly lost on where his hype comes from. If anything his PL results are the most.impressive thing.


No one did.....
Red and yellow are all I see
ThorZainWeTrust
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden205 Posts
February 19 2013 21:11 GMT
#1229
yet agine we see that only swedish vikings stand a chanse in GSL!! Naniwa and Jinro Foreigner heroes!!!!!
ALL HAIL NANIWA - KING OF STARCRAFT 2! SLAYER OF KINGS AND DRAGONS...DESTROYER OF GODS AND CHAMPION OF FOREIGNERS!!!!! KING OF THE NORTH...WE SALUTE YOU!!!!!
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
February 19 2013 21:42 GMT
#1230
Well, as expected, hypes and free seed will only get you that far.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 19 2013 21:48 GMT
#1231
On February 20 2013 05:23 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:57 VManOfMana wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.


Stephano's hype is based only on his ladder results or what?

You can't possibly state that Stephano's tournament results compare to Flash's. Stephano's tournament results aren't impressive on their own. I'm honestly lost on where his hype comes from. If anything his PL results are the most.impressive thing.


From this outlook you can only hype like 2 players in the world.

No-one is comparing stephano to flash for results, but saying there's 0 grounds for hype is a touch silly with the number of tournaments he has proven himself to be able to play with the best.

But his PL results are the most impressive thing? I guess puma has nothing impressive to his name then?
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GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
February 19 2013 21:49 GMT
#1232
Thank you Flying for crush Stephano.
JD is BONJWA!
eMGmoG
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
February 19 2013 21:53 GMT
#1233
i watch GSL for competition, i dont care if a foreigner plays or a korean, i wanna watch the best games played by the best players. these seeds suck from a fan view, which is not biased by player nationality, but relies truly on the game/tournament itself and what it can provide.
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 22:09:34
February 19 2013 22:09 GMT
#1234
EG Curse is kicking in!
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
February 19 2013 23:56 GMT
#1235
Just got around to watching the final VOD

Creative builds from Flying in games 1 through 3, loved the multi-pronged aggression.

That DT/Zealot build would probably catch some steam if WOL wasn't coming to an end, in the current metagame Zerg is just droning too much pre-lair.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 20 2013 01:27 GMT
#1236
WOOOOOOOOW Stephano got destroyed. Nestea also threw a huge lead as I've seen him do way too many times .
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 20 2013 01:50 GMT
#1237
On February 20 2013 05:23 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:05 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On February 20 2013 04:57 VManOfMana wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:24 Big J wrote:
On February 20 2013 02:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:57 a3den wrote:
This thread really hurt my brain. TL elitists, hating on foreigners since '98.

Meh, I don't hate on all foreigners.. Just most, and not because they are foreigners more because they get over hyped to hell and back and their fan boys are annoying as fuck(Especially Stephano fanboys).

Most of the hate on foreigners come out of frustration imo. Idra and Stephano fanboys have made it literally impossible for me to root for them...


You must really hate Flash then if he doesn't win a GSL very very soon. ;-)


Flash has already proven he got what it takes to be a top progamer, and got the titles and records to back it up. His hype is based on what he has done, not some inflated expectations on what—according to his fanboys—he is supposed to be able to do.

The transition to SC2 does not invalidate his career prior to 2012.


Stephano's hype is based only on his ladder results or what?

You can't possibly state that Stephano's tournament results compare to Flash's. Stephano's tournament results aren't impressive on their own. I'm honestly lost on where his hype comes from. If anything his PL results are the most.impressive thing.


No one is trying to compare their results directly. Stephano was the #3 earning in 2012. Does he get to attend more tournaments than most koreans? Sure. Did he win some tournaments that had no koreans (WCS EU, FR)? Yes, again. Given that, his results were still pretty impressive.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 20 2013 01:56 GMT
#1238
Here are the links to premade OPs. I can never do Wednesdays so whoever wants them can have them
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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
February 20 2013 04:30 GMT
#1239
On February 20 2013 01:33 Dodgin wrote:
wow, Stephano lost to Flying of all people.

I feel like this deals the killing blow to his hype train in Korea, he will probably not return for the next season and never come back again, that is unless EG is forcing him to stay for Proleague.



not too surprising IMO

the haters can say kespa isn't on par with esf

but you def. can't deny that any kespa player can out play almost all foreigners
dumchu
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 20 2013 04:33 GMT
#1240
It's not even that Flying is kespa, there are tons of good Kespa players like Bogus, Roro, Soulkey, Rain, Flash, etc. Flying didn't get sent out for Proleague for over a month because his in-house record wasn't good enough. He's just not one of the players you would expect Stephano to lose to in a bo3 if he's on point.
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