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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
February 18 2013 18:43 GMT
#881
Wow just watched game 4, one of the best TvT games I have seen, seriously at one point they had a siege line that was crossed around the entire map, freaking sick!!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#882
Just watched the VOD for Jjakji vs Dream, that was sick. Whirlwind is an amazing map and the medivac speed boost adds even more complexity and a way to outplay your opponent in TvT, love it.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 18 2013 19:19 GMT
#883
Turbovacs and buffed ravens really spice up lategame TvT, which already was the best matchup in WoL by a pretty big stretch. Glad to see :D
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
February 18 2013 19:40 GMT
#884
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
February 18 2013 20:20 GMT
#885
JJAKJIUUUUUUUUUUUUU~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I love you!!! So good to see you back :D
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 18 2013 21:03 GMT
#886
On February 19 2013 03:48 Dodgin wrote:
Just watched the VOD for Jjakji vs Dream, that was sick. Whirlwind is an amazing map and the medivac speed boost adds even more complexity and a way to outplay your opponent in TvT, love it.

I just watched the game and it was a truly excellent TvT. The observer seemed a bit desperate about the new medivacs, though...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 18 2013 21:05 GMT
#887
On February 19 2013 06:03 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 03:48 Dodgin wrote:
Just watched the VOD for Jjakji vs Dream, that was sick. Whirlwind is an amazing map and the medivac speed boost adds even more complexity and a way to outplay your opponent in TvT, love it.

I just watched the game and it was a truly excellent TvT. The observer seemed a bit desperate about the new medivacs, though...


I think they're pretty much getting paid to show off all the new toys in HoTS, though :p
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 18 2013 21:26 GMT
#888
I am so glad to see jjakji doing well against Zerg again. Part of this may be due to hellbats in their current form, but his micro during engagements was extremely good. I was really happy to see him layering his MMH to wall off against banelings, with marines and marauders on different hotkeys.
On February 19 2013 06:05 Zealously wrote:
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On February 19 2013 06:03 WigglingSquid wrote:
On February 19 2013 03:48 Dodgin wrote:
Just watched the VOD for Jjakji vs Dream, that was sick. Whirlwind is an amazing map and the medivac speed boost adds even more complexity and a way to outplay your opponent in TvT, love it.

I just watched the game and it was a truly excellent TvT. The observer seemed a bit desperate about the new medivacs, though...


I think they're pretty much getting paid to show off all the new toys in HoTS, though :p

I didn't mean that he tried too hard to focus on them, but that he had a hard time following the haf-a-dozen medivacs boosting their way in three different places and three different directions every minute or so, while ravens were using SM and nukes were landing. Whirlwind TvT was hard to observe in WoL, and this is even harder.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
February 18 2013 21:29 GMT
#889
I find it remarkable that anyone would find Jjakji vs. Dream boring. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Wein
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil452 Posts
February 18 2013 22:45 GMT
#890
Sick game 4.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 18 2013 23:49 GMT
#891
love the new reaper
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
February 18 2013 23:52 GMT
#892
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Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
February 18 2013 23:59 GMT
#893
It is a mistake to field P and Z players in HoTS. It is GOM TvT 2.0. They even dug up that old cheeser, Jajki.

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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12536 Posts
February 19 2013 00:00 GMT
#894
I know how fun it is to rewrite history but really jjakji didn't fall to zerg... He beat Monster in code A, beat whoever zerg he beat when NSH got terran all-kills at a time no one thought that was possible. He just repeatedly lost to terrans. A lot. In fact his vZ is his higher korean winrate on TLPD... I understand he wouldn't want to write about the OPness of other terrans on his twitter tho :p
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 00:04:57
February 19 2013 00:02 GMT
#895
On February 19 2013 09:00 Nebuchad wrote:
I know how fun it is to rewrite history but really jjakji didn't fall to zerg... He beat Monster in code A, beat whoever zerg he beat when NSH got terran all-kills at a time no one thought that was possible. He just repeatedly lost to terrans. A lot. In fact his vZ is his higher korean winrate on TLPD... I understand he wouldn't want to write about the OPness of other terrans on his twitter tho :p

He lost in the qualifiers to zergs often (OSL, GSL, IPL etc) and he was eliminated in his last Code A appearance by BBoongBBoong. Yes he struggled with TvT in his career but he went from 1 weaker matchup to 2
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
February 19 2013 00:17 GMT
#896
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12536 Posts
February 19 2013 00:21 GMT
#897
last gsl qualifier he lost to Mercury who plays terran, the one before that he qualified (then lost to BBoong). I mean I'm not saying he was at his peek in TvZ obviously but given stats and what I saw of the games I hardly think it was his downfall as much as it is insisted in this thread. (Also he won 1/3 of his 15 last vP games so by these standards I wouldn't deem it a strong match-up either :p )
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 19 2013 00:22 GMT
#898
On February 19 2013 09:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On February 19 2013 09:00 Nebuchad wrote:
I know how fun it is to rewrite history but really jjakji didn't fall to zerg... He beat Monster in code A, beat whoever zerg he beat when NSH got terran all-kills at a time no one thought that was possible. He just repeatedly lost to terrans. A lot. In fact his vZ is his higher korean winrate on TLPD... I understand he wouldn't want to write about the OPness of other terrans on his twitter tho :p

He lost in the qualifiers to zergs often (OSL, GSL, IPL etc) and he was eliminated in his last Code A appearance by BBoongBBoong. Yes he struggled with TvT in his career but he went from 1 weaker matchup to 2

His TvT was weak at the peak of his career and for some time after that, but starting 6-8 months ago his TvT stopped being a weak matchup for him. He did well against several competent TvTers and performed better than expected vZ in the aftermath of the queen patch (he was second-best T versus zerg in GSTL during that time, tied with MKP for a while), but his vZ kept degrading until he was losing to basically every zerg he met. The same is partially true for his vP, which struggled to keep up first with the Parting-led stormfest and then again for no particular reason other than protosses were more apt at countering his style.
Since then, though, his TvT has been fair. In WoL at least.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 19 2013 02:01 GMT
#899
That TvT with jjaki and dream, so incredibly good. Surprised to not see that many widows mine in that situation though

Also just want to say that Khaldor + Wolf confirmed that the Code A games begin at 16:10 KST and not 18:10 as the Teamliquid side bars says. So it's in 5 hours 10 minutes, not 7 hours 10 minutes. Around 23:40~ in the last GSTL Vod
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 02:06:13
February 19 2013 02:02 GMT
#900
On February 19 2013 11:01 nomyx wrote:
That TvT with jjaki and dream, so incredibly good. Surprised to not see that many widows mine in that situation though

Also just want to say that Khaldor + Wolf confirmed that the Code A games begin at 16:10 KST and not 18:10 as the Teamliquid side bars says. So it's in 5 hours 10 minutes, not 7 hours 10 minutes. Around 23:40~ in the last GSTL Vod

Are you sure? Gom schedule says 18:10 still
http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gom
- 07:07:02

Aired On : 2013.02.19 18:10


I just listened to the vod. He said "six ten korean standard time" which is 18:10
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