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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#741
On February 18 2013 20:36 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:34 sitromit wrote:
On February 18 2013 20:31 Big J wrote:
Haha... Love it how people complain about beta balance.

I'm not expecting that there will be any useful winrates until fall... And that is pretty optimistic, after watching 2010 and 2011 WoL winrates...

What does this even mean? Isn't the whole point of a beta to find out imbalances so they get fixed before release?


The point of a beta is to ensure that the game works, to generate hype and do a larger test on the populace. Until all pros switch and people start to develop proper strategies, what balance we get now isn't really indicative of anything close to final balance.

Unfortunately I think blizzard have been hit by the community to make things more balanced over exciting. I want the warhound back =(

This is the part where I post that image that says "not sure if trolling".
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#742
Anyone care to tell me why there's a green square partially blocking the Terran symbol on the production tab in the top left?
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#743
On February 18 2013 20:34 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:31 Big J wrote:
Haha... Love it how people complain about beta balance.

I'm not expecting that there will be any useful winrates until fall... And that is pretty optimistic, after watching 2010 and 2011 WoL winrates...

What does this even mean? Isn't the whole point of a beta to find out imbalances so they get fixed before release?


I wouldn't even go that far. Usually a beta is mostly to provide a playable test version to get a feel for the game and find out bugs.
That blizzard uses the beta for balance and design feedback and work so much on such problems is more than awesome to begin with. Somewhat needed for an esports game for sure, but the fact that all 3races seems somewhat capable of winning when outplaying an opponent is already great.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#744
How does he make a creep highway with hatchery tech?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
February 18 2013 11:39 GMT
#745
Weird. What are you doing, Monster.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
February 18 2013 11:39 GMT
#746
wow Monster actually scouted. He's doing better than the last zerg already :p
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 18 2013 11:39 GMT
#747
What's the cost of OL speed as compared to making an Overseer?
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 18 2013 11:39 GMT
#748
that overlord LOL :D
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
February 18 2013 11:39 GMT
#749
On February 18 2013 20:38 pdd wrote:
Anyone care to tell me why there's a green square partially blocking the Terran symbol on the production tab in the top left?


It looks like a button to close that tab, I agree it is annoying.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 18 2013 11:40 GMT
#750
On February 18 2013 20:39 Heartland wrote:
What's the cost of OL speed as compared to making an Overseer?

A Lair.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 18 2013 11:40 GMT
#751
On February 18 2013 20:38 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 20:36 bittman wrote:
On February 18 2013 20:34 sitromit wrote:
On February 18 2013 20:31 Big J wrote:
Haha... Love it how people complain about beta balance.

I'm not expecting that there will be any useful winrates until fall... And that is pretty optimistic, after watching 2010 and 2011 WoL winrates...

What does this even mean? Isn't the whole point of a beta to find out imbalances so they get fixed before release?


The point of a beta is to ensure that the game works, to generate hype and do a larger test on the populace. Until all pros switch and people start to develop proper strategies, what balance we get now isn't really indicative of anything close to final balance.

Unfortunately I think blizzard have been hit by the community to make things more balanced over exciting. I want the warhound back =(

This is the part where I post that image that says "not sure if trolling".


Well a better image of the warhound probably.

I guess those words are at odds haha. Basically I want more exciting things. And thus I wanted more units for more variation. Warhound was almost a good idea terribly executed (like the carrier). Blizzard don't seem to be interested in changing half of their units though =(
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DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
February 18 2013 11:41 GMT
#752
Another Z allin, what every Z does vs T lol
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
February 18 2013 11:41 GMT
#753
20 banelings. eh.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 18 2013 11:41 GMT
#754
UNF UNF UNF

sexy hold
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
February 18 2013 11:41 GMT
#755
What.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#756
Sickest hold...

So great to see talented players coming back for HotS. Hope there are more to come.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#757
Monster is worst than expected.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#758
Holy fuck jjakji
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scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
February 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#759
that was bad.. should have gone for scvs with those 4 banelings
Try again, fail better.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#760
20 baneling bust barely hurt jjakji's feelings.
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