• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:06
CEST 17:06
KST 00:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course10Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !8Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? [ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2119 users

[GSTL] FXO vs. Prime Pre-Season 2013 RO8 - Page 37

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 40 Next All
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 07:07:59
February 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#721
On February 17 2013 16:06 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 TommyP wrote:
On February 17 2013 16:04 Havik_ wrote:
"Zerg is the weakest race in hots."
Zerg beats some of the best Terrans in the game.

To be fair, Maru and Byun aren't some of the best Terrans in the game.

they've done a lot more than JKS has

yea true but the FXO GSTL power is strong. Plus if Maru had walled off and the last game was just baneling busting a greedy terran so
#TheOneTrueDong
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 07:07:44
February 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#722
On February 17 2013 16:05 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:04 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:59 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:58 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:55 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:52 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:50 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:48 BlerN wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:47 iSunrise wrote:
[quote]
Seriously, you don´t know anything about the game. Queens on creep spread at your base? Are you actually serious?

i dont think you have actually played hots

Seems that I played it a lot more than you have. At least I know how to defend that.

So you´re saying JKS was lucky, yes? That´s pretty bad manner.

Id say that having 0 units at home to defend with no wall off would be a pretty lucky thing to see yeh.

You must be confused. We are talking about the beginning aggression with reapers and not the end battle.

"So your saying JKS was lucky" in what way does that refer to the beginning aggression?

Because he defended the reapers with a very late pool and very late zerglings? Dude...

He lost 7 harvesters thats not defending lol.

He was ahead in bases and workers after that. He even killed Maru for investing so much money and time into that reapers build.

Yes, that is defending by definition.

He was ahead in workers because maru didn't wall off.

What does the wall off have to do with my argument that he defended the reapers. OMG

Dude, chill.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
February 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#723
On February 17 2013 16:04 Fjodorov wrote:
i understand you want to go for the win but it feels kind of lame doing a build like that. This tournament should be about practice, entertainment and letting the audience get used to the new stuff.

I believe that players should think only about their wins and nothing else. It's other people's job to make entertaining games.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 07:11:09
February 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#724
Real men do baneling busts... not silly reaper shenanigans. That is what HotS forced us to do. Welcome to early 2011
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
February 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#725
Was hoping for a Prime win but you can't help feeling good for someone who looks as excited as JKS did
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 07:08:34
February 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#726
This thread is why they will soon ban balance whine in LRs (probably post-release). It ruins the games while contributing next to nothing.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#727
This felt much quicker than last night. Prime needs to go back to the drawing board for the real season. Time to practice.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#728
On February 17 2013 16:05 Black Gun wrote:
im extremely fed up and frustrated with the current state of tvz in wol. now, the gstl preseason tournament is the first time ever i watch hots - and all the time, everyone talks about how hard tvz and terran's early game antics currently are for zergs in hots. and all i see tonight is terrans getting raped by zerg early game antics. sigh.

That is 100% the fault of the Terran's for leaving themselves so vulnerable to stuff like this. Any solid build w/ scouting wouldn't have died to these zerg builds.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#729
I don't really mind too much that Prime lost but I was hoping for a bit more from the top 3 ranked players on ladder haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#730
On February 17 2013 16:06 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:04 Havik_ wrote:
"Zerg is the weakest race in hots."



A Zerg beats some of the best Terrans in the game.

You can't be serious? Didn't you see the games? Can't you put two and two together? JKS got dominated by Reapers first game, counterallins. 2nd game, 1base baneling bust vs super greedy Terran play.
These types of comments without any fundation just makes me sad.

just like balance whining on a patch without enough games played to really say __X__ is actually imba.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#731
I really hate how they went from Bo9 to Bo7. I dont understand the logic behind that. We get to see less new guys T_T
#TheOneTrueDong
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12715 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#732
On February 17 2013 16:05 vultdylan wrote:
HotS games where the only HotS unit that was used pretty much the whole series was mines.

The rest was really quick.

mothership core, oracle?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#733
On February 17 2013 16:06 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:04 Havik_ wrote:
"Zerg is the weakest race in hots."



A Zerg beats some of the best Terrans in the game.

You can't be serious? Didn't you see the games? Can't you put two and two together? JKS got dominated by Reapers first game, counterallins. 2nd game, 1base baneling bust vs super greedy Terran play.
These types of comments without any fundation just makes me sad.


So I'm guessing you've decided for a "no." on my offer involving you not talking anymore?
No will to live, no wish to die
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#734
On February 17 2013 16:08 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 Black Gun wrote:
im extremely fed up and frustrated with the current state of tvz in wol. now, the gstl preseason tournament is the first time ever i watch hots - and all the time, everyone talks about how hard tvz and terran's early game antics currently are for zergs in hots. and all i see tonight is terrans getting raped by zerg early game antics. sigh.

That is 100% the fault of the Terran's for leaving themselves so vulnerable to stuff like this. Any solid build w/ scouting wouldn't have died to these zerg builds.

Thank you, I am not alone. People just look at the results, not how the games are played out.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
February 17 2013 07:09 GMT
#735
On February 17 2013 16:05 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:04 Havik_ wrote:
"Zerg is the weakest race in hots."
Zerg beats some of the best Terrans in the game.

To be fair, Maru and Byun aren't some of the best Terrans in the game.


Lol, this is a joke.

JKS has been in Code A like what, one time? And he got eliminated in the first round.


ByuN and Maru have both been Code S, with Byun finishing top 4 two times, and Maru and ByuN are both in Code A right now (with ByuN vs Gumiho determining who goes directly to Code S and who goes directly to up and downs).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 07:11:44
February 17 2013 07:10 GMT
#736
On February 17 2013 16:07 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 16:04 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:59 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:58 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:55 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:52 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:50 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:48 BlerN wrote:
[quote]
i dont think you have actually played hots

Seems that I played it a lot more than you have. At least I know how to defend that.

So you´re saying JKS was lucky, yes? That´s pretty bad manner.

Id say that having 0 units at home to defend with no wall off would be a pretty lucky thing to see yeh.

You must be confused. We are talking about the beginning aggression with reapers and not the end battle.

"So your saying JKS was lucky" in what way does that refer to the beginning aggression?

Because he defended the reapers with a very late pool and very late zerglings? Dude...

He lost 7 harvesters thats not defending lol.

He was ahead in bases and workers after that. He even killed Maru for investing so much money and time into that reapers build.

Yes, that is defending by definition.

He was ahead in workers because maru didn't wall off.

What does the wall off have to do with my argument that he defended the reapers. OMG

Dude, chill.

Your evidence for that claim is that he had more workers? If he didn't suicide 9 workers by not building some depots that wouldn't happen?

Jesus I play terran and its retarded how strong reapers/widowmines/hellbats are against zerg.
BlerN
Profile Joined March 2012
United States9 Posts
February 17 2013 07:10 GMT
#737
On February 17 2013 16:07 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 16:04 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:59 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:58 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:55 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:52 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:50 iSunrise wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:48 BlerN wrote:
[quote]
i dont think you have actually played hots

Seems that I played it a lot more than you have. At least I know how to defend that.

So you´re saying JKS was lucky, yes? That´s pretty bad manner.

Id say that having 0 units at home to defend with no wall off would be a pretty lucky thing to see yeh.

You must be confused. We are talking about the beginning aggression with reapers and not the end battle.

"So your saying JKS was lucky" in what way does that refer to the beginning aggression?

Because he defended the reapers with a very late pool and very late zerglings? Dude...

He lost 7 harvesters thats not defending lol.

He was ahead in bases and workers after that. He even killed Maru for investing so much money and time into that reapers build.

Yes, that is defending by definition.

He was ahead in workers because maru didn't wall off.

What does the wall off have to do with my argument that he defended the reapers. OMG

Dude, chill.

if he had walled he would have been super ahead. how are you defining defended if maru would have been super ahead from the reapers if he had walled?
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 17 2013 07:10 GMT
#738
On February 17 2013 16:05 vultdylan wrote:
HotS games where the only HotS unit that was used pretty much the whole series was mines.

The rest was really quick.

Choya used mothership cores vs terror
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
February 17 2013 07:11 GMT
#739
On February 17 2013 16:09 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 TommyP wrote:
On February 17 2013 16:04 Havik_ wrote:
"Zerg is the weakest race in hots."
Zerg beats some of the best Terrans in the game.

To be fair, Maru and Byun aren't some of the best Terrans in the game.


Lol, this is a joke.

JKS has been in Code A like what, one time? And he got eliminated in the first round.


ByuN and Maru have both been Code S, with Byun finishing top 4 two times, and Maru and ByuN are both in Code A right now (with ByuN vs Gumiho determining who goes directly to Code S and who goes directly to up and downs).

Yea but it doesnt matter when you don't wall off or in Byun's case play super greedy and not scout and get baneling busted.
#TheOneTrueDong
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 17 2013 07:12 GMT
#740
On February 17 2013 16:04 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Look at all these people underestimating FXO once again. One day people will realize there is a reason they have won twice in a row.



This. After they won the first one, I stopped underestimating them. They really do care about team league and are arguably the best at it in this format.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#86
WardiTV1113
Rex131
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MaxPax 182
ProTech140
Rex 131
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8036
Bisu 3112
Jaedong 1427
EffOrt 973
Horang2 963
Mini 506
Larva 383
Hyuk 301
actioN 299
ZerO 287
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 229
Snow 221
Soulkey 209
Mind 169
firebathero 159
Rush 157
Mong 102
Sea.KH 67
Hyun 58
Sharp 57
soO 50
Barracks 48
HiyA 44
Aegong 44
[sc1f]eonzerg 40
Pusan 37
Killer 32
sorry 20
Movie 20
IntoTheRainbow 18
Hm[arnc] 17
SilentControl 10
Rock 9
Terrorterran 7
Bale 7
Dota 2
Gorgc5009
syndereN331
XcaliburYe176
monkeys_forever173
NeuroSwarm73
Counter-Strike
fl0m3175
byalli346
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK14
Other Games
B2W.Neo1037
hiko873
Liquid`RaSZi552
Lowko351
Hui .347
Happy335
crisheroes162
ArmadaUGS128
KnowMe119
elazer91
Livibee65
Trikslyr20
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL41958
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 1076
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP83
• LUISG 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 36
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6600
• TFBlade1235
Other Games
• WagamamaTV445
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
55m
OSC
8h 55m
CranKy Ducklings
18h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 55m
Light vs Flash
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
5 days
Cure vs TBD
TBD vs Maru
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.