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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 17 2013 22:13 GMT
#201
I'm rooting for the random players!
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 17 2013 22:58 GMT
#202
On February 18 2013 07:04 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:36 HolydaKing wrote:
I also assumed they changed that after this post of Maverck last week, which seemed like he already had a pretty good idea.


had to revoke that change because it was only accurate with low scv count, once you got a high number of workers the mining rate was alot slower than it should be. i'll have to think about another way to deal with SCVs

i only just got to work (tournament was at 5am for me). i'll go over the VODs soonish. any feedback feel free to PM me, i'd be very grateful.


Can you not just make it so that after a SCV mines a crystal, there is a SLIGHT pause after it has the crystal in hand? Like as soon as it mines it, maybe it moves at 80% speed for 1 second? (Imagine it getting hit by conc shell in SC2 but it only lasts for 1-2 seconds).
MorowZ
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada56 Posts
February 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#203
MavercK, that's unfortunate that the fix didn't scale appropriately. I don't really have any more suggestions, maybe what FabledIntegral proposes might work?
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
February 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#204
yea, i'll give it a go. ty.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 18 2013 03:43 GMT
#205
Np. Just a thought, not sure how it will work. Let me know how it pans out!


nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
February 18 2013 08:57 GMT
#206
Considering how much MorroW is dominating these Weeklies, maybe the prize pool shouldn't be:

1st: 100% cash
2nd: pride
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
February 18 2013 09:07 GMT
#207
On February 18 2013 17:57 nimdil wrote:
Considering how much MorroW is dominating these Weeklies, maybe the prize pool shouldn't be:

1st: 100% cash
2nd: pride


need a challenger
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 09:12:50
February 18 2013 09:11 GMT
#208
Or maybe we should make it like Chess World Championship. There is candidate tournament and then there is championship match between the winner of candidate tournament and previous champion

And I updated brackets on LP so check if there are any errors: (Wiki)SC2BW Weekly/2
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
February 18 2013 09:18 GMT
#209
I don't know what more to say anymore.
MavercK, how many games of ZvT/PvT were played testing out the slower SCVs? How many games (played on a high level on both ends, in both games) have been played and analyzed so far to compare SC2:BW to SC:BW in total?
Enjoy the game
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
February 18 2013 11:50 GMT
#210
On February 18 2013 18:18 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I don't know what more to say anymore.
MavercK, how many games of ZvT/PvT were played testing out the slower SCVs? How many games (played on a high level on both ends, in both games) have been played and analyzed so far to compare SC2:BW to SC:BW in total?


games played? not sure, i updated the map at the beginning of the week on EU and then did a minor patch to undo it a day or two before hand. i dont have any testers other than myself and anyone who decides to post feedback. this weekly tournament has been the BEST source of information so far.

my findings with the previous settings were 1 worker to 1 mineral patch = identical to BW.
but 12 or more and the mining rate got WAY out of control. i was like 1k short on minerals in only a few minutes time.

i've looked at it again and found more favorable settings.
the previous values i had were
probes - 2.25 acceleration
drones - 1.75 acceleration
SCV - 1.25 acceleration.

my NEW values are. 2.25, 2.0, 1.75.
i've also added a 0.5 second delay where the worker will stop at the CC/Nexus/Hatchery before returning to the mineral patch.

with these new settings and following.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83287
as a guide (aswell as BW)
these settings are almost perfect. im out by a maximum of 100-200 minerals by the 5 minute mark on all races.

im still looking at SCVs however. right now workers are immune to the pathing difficulties that other units suffer from. which is i think why they are so strong. unfortunately it's not so easy to apply this handicap to workers and NOT have it affect them while mining. but i will find a way.

im sorry you wern't notified before the tournament, i will do better next time and announce any changes before hand.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
February 18 2013 12:18 GMT
#211
Has this same testing been applied to SC:BW too?
Enjoy the game
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
February 18 2013 12:29 GMT
#212
On February 18 2013 21:18 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Has this same testing been applied to SC:BW too?


will be testing that tomorrow, gotta goto sleep before work
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
February 18 2013 12:34 GMT
#213
On February 18 2013 21:18 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Has this same testing been applied to SC:BW too?

Are you really asking if mod created by one person was tested as extensively as official expansion created by powerful company? o_O
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
February 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#214
On February 18 2013 21:34 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 21:18 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Has this same testing been applied to SC:BW too?

Are you really asking if mod created by one person was tested as extensively as official expansion created by powerful company? o_O


nah hes making sure i compared my findings against BW to ensure they are accurate (instead of relying on an article someone wrote years ago).
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
February 18 2013 12:53 GMT
#215
On February 18 2013 21:42 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 21:34 nimdil wrote:
On February 18 2013 21:18 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Has this same testing been applied to SC:BW too?

Are you really asking if mod created by one person was tested as extensively as official expansion created by powerful company? o_O


nah hes making sure i compared my findings against BW to ensure they are accurate (instead of relying on an article someone wrote years ago).

Ah, that wasn't very obvious
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
February 18 2013 13:04 GMT
#216
IMHO it's needed at least 2+ players of high BW/SC2 level, that have played competitively BW recently to test thoroughly and patiently how does SC2:BW compare to SC:BW. This would include playing a lot of games and trying out many, many stuff in both games, so the lots of free time required here will probably be the main issue.
I will probably have time to join and test some stuff super rarely in the next 2-3 weeks, and probably more after that. If I'm at least not uneager to do it, that is. And after these two tournaments, i'm rather frustrated and very demotivated.
Enjoy the game
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 18 2013 20:48 GMT
#217
I think the point more than anything was for it to just be a fun mod, rather than what you're looking at. I mean, he's doing this in his free time...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 18 2013 20:50 GMT
#218
SC2BW Weekly, aka FeedMorrow Weekly. :D
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 21:19:52
February 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#219
I really want to play morrow to test if this SCV imbalance theory holds .
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
February 19 2013 11:35 GMT
#220
Next tournament will be in 2 weeks when I think HotS beta will be offline before the launch of the game.

Replay pack from SC2BW #2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pow8nw5o701fmwl/Tourney3501_Replays.zip
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