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[Code A] GSL S1 2013 Preliminaries - Page 60

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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 31 2013 01:41 GMT
#1181
List of all players that are maybe in Korea (for those wondering who we might see today):
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
January 31 2013 01:44 GMT
#1182
Rooting for Aphrodite! Do your best!!!
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 01:51:58
January 31 2013 01:50 GMT
#1183
Should be some stacked gruops today.
CJ effort
CJ herO
CJ Hydra
KT Action
KT Crazy-hydra
Samsung Jangbi
Samsung Stork
SKT T1 soO
WJS Free
FXO asd
FXO Choya
T8 Argo
T8 Cure
Axiom Heart
Acer Scarlett
EG-JYP_RC
NSHoseo Jjakji
Fnatic Oz
has yet to participate

Couple of brackets will be extremely hard.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 01:54:19
January 31 2013 01:53 GMT
#1184
On January 31 2013 10:50 LighT. wrote:
Should be some stacked gruops today.
CJ effort
CJ herO
CJ Hydra
KT Action
KT Crazy-hydra
Samsung Jangbi
Samsung Stork
SKT T1 soO
WJS Free
FXO asd
FXO Choya
T8 Argo
T8 Cure
Axiom Heart
Acer Scarlett
EG-JYP_RC
NSHoseo Jjakji
Fnatic Oz
has yet to participate

Couple of brackets will be extremely hard.

Unless I'm mistaken she's not in Korea yet. She has an IPL invitational thing soon™. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394943
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
January 31 2013 01:53 GMT
#1185
CJ EffOrt
CJ herO
CJ Hydra
KT Action
KT Crazy
KHAN JangBi
KHAN Stork
KHAN Reality
SKT T1 soO
WJS free
T8 Argo
T8 Cure
NSH jjakji

I REALLY want all of them in GSL.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 31 2013 01:53 GMT
#1186
On January 31 2013 10:50 LighT. wrote:
Should be some stacked gruops today.
CJ effort
CJ herO
CJ Hydra
KT Action
KT Crazy-hydra
Samsung Jangbi
Samsung Stork
SKT T1 soO
WJS Free
FXO asd
FXO Choya
T8 Argo
T8 Cure
Axiom Heart
Acer Scarlett
EG-JYP_RC
NSHoseo Jjakji
Fnatic Oz
has yet to participate

Couple of brackets will be extremely hard.


KT zergs are the last hope!!!
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 31 2013 01:57 GMT
#1187
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:07:51
January 31 2013 02:01 GMT
#1188
On January 31 2013 01:15 FineAndDandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 00:48 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:40 Elroi wrote:
On January 30 2013 23:54 ETisME wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:58 CoR wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:56 derpface wrote:
Yes BISU didnt get through!!!! Even though it was pretty mich a given he wouldnt qualify.

Sad though that MMA didnt get through

Also lol at Artosis being named a notable player.


how can ANYBODY be happy bisu not get trough ? even if not on best, so much history/drama and potencial in this guy.
i mean what you want "oh here a new guy i dont knoiw vs a guy we said all above"
or "hey bisu he is blablabla" so much to say to fill start time of a game ^^

Coming from a non bw background, I just hope to have a better skilled player to qualify.
Much better to see good players playing amazingly than a famous player playing average level and completely disappoint everyone
For example everyone says flash is god etc, but he isn't really doing anything all that amazing compared to other top players.

You probably don't watch proleague if you say that. Flash is an amazing player in Proleague.

GSL is a tournament that the KeSPA players don't care very much about. Look at who qualified in code A: mostly b-teamers who don't practice for PL because they aren't good enough to be sent out anyway.


he said Flash isn't doing anything amazing compared to the other top players which is true

also, all the good kespa players are trying to qualify but they failed to do so. I don't really buy the excuse that they didn't prepare enough, if they're that much better than the B teamers not good enough to play in proleague they should be able to win without preparing, which they did in the case of rain, s2, true and shine.


Reason is SC2 is too random, anyone can win against anyone among Korean progamers. Even life and parting will have a hard time in qualifers if they are not lucky.



That's not an argument you can make anymore. Do you even watch pro SC2?

Look at how Artosis spoke about his matches, he wasn't upset he lost. He was upset because the way he lost he knew he could NEVER beat the person he was facing.

Startale Life doesn't go and win 4 major tournaments in a row by "luck". People need to stop with that bullshit excuse.

MKP doesn't have 11 Code S appearances because that 50/50 coin flipped in his favor 11 times in a row.

MVP didn't win 4 GSLs before his wrists exploded because he always threw Rock and they always threw Scissors.

They are there because they are far fucking better than the people you keep making this excuse for.

Life would crush every single player who didn't make it out of that qualifier in a row in BO3s without breaking a sweat and probably without losing a single game.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
January 31 2013 02:07 GMT
#1189
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p


He has to be there because he's coach and he's scouting for amateurs. Might as well play as well. I'm pretty sure he made the qualifiers once only to go out Ro48
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 02:08 GMT
#1190
On January 31 2013 11:07 HoriZoNXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p


He has to be there because he's coach and he's scouting for amateurs. Might as well play as well. I'm pretty sure he made the qualifiers once only to go out Ro48

He lost to Jangbi in the finals last season
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 31 2013 02:09 GMT
#1191
On January 31 2013 11:07 HoriZoNXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p


He has to be there because he's coach and he's scouting for amateurs. Might as well play as well. I'm pretty sure he made the qualifiers once only to go out Ro48

Choya has made it through the Code A qualifiers like 3 times.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:10:05
January 31 2013 02:09 GMT
#1192
On January 31 2013 03:36 magicallypuzzled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 02:26 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 02:22 Whatson wrote:
On January 31 2013 02:19 Wingblade wrote:
On January 31 2013 01:15 FineAndDandy wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:48 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:40 Elroi wrote:
On January 30 2013 23:54 ETisME wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:58 CoR wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:56 derpface wrote:
Yes BISU didnt get through!!!! Even though it was pretty mich a given he wouldnt qualify.

Sad though that MMA didnt get through

Also lol at Artosis being named a notable player.


how can ANYBODY be happy bisu not get trough ? even if not on best, so much history/drama and potencial in this guy.
i mean what you want "oh here a new guy i dont knoiw vs a guy we said all above"
or "hey bisu he is blablabla" so much to say to fill start time of a game ^^

Coming from a non bw background, I just hope to have a better skilled player to qualify.
Much better to see good players playing amazingly than a famous player playing average level and completely disappoint everyone
For example everyone says flash is god etc, but he isn't really doing anything all that amazing compared to other top players.

You probably don't watch proleague if you say that. Flash is an amazing player in Proleague.

GSL is a tournament that the KeSPA players don't care very much about. Look at who qualified in code A: mostly b-teamers who don't practice for PL because they aren't good enough to be sent out anyway.


he said Flash isn't doing anything amazing compared to the other top players which is true

also, all the good kespa players are trying to qualify but they failed to do so. I don't really buy the excuse that they didn't prepare enough, if they're that much better than the B teamers not good enough to play in proleague they should be able to win without preparing, which they did in the case of rain, s2, true and shine.


Reason is SC2 is too random, anyone can win against anyone among Korean progamers. Even life and parting will have a hard time in qualifers if they are not lucky.



That last sentence killed my soul. And it would probably kill Partings if he heard that... SC2 is not THAT random, Life and Parting would blow the qualifiers away just based on their body of work.

Keep in mind that Parting bombed out hard at IEM. And he only won 2-1 against combatez.


didn't parting take third at iem? and he lost to Dream, a Code A player.


a code a player that is known as a very very good tvp sniper, and is also known to have a huge weakness vs zerg. kind of hard to not be code a when so much of code s is zerg.


Exactly, don't forget he took out Rain as well. Dream has some of the best TvP, it's just really sad he is terrible against Zerg otherwise he would go far.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:10:47
January 31 2013 02:10 GMT
#1193
On January 31 2013 11:09 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:07 HoriZoNXI wrote:
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p


He has to be there because he's coach and he's scouting for amateurs. Might as well play as well. I'm pretty sure he made the qualifiers once only to go out Ro48

Choya has made it through the Code A qualifiers like 3 times.


I meant recently :x

edit: Although now that I think of it that was a long time ago as well...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 02:10 GMT
#1194
On January 31 2013 11:09 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 03:36 magicallypuzzled wrote:
On January 31 2013 02:26 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 02:22 Whatson wrote:
On January 31 2013 02:19 Wingblade wrote:
On January 31 2013 01:15 FineAndDandy wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:48 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:40 Elroi wrote:
On January 30 2013 23:54 ETisME wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:58 CoR wrote:
[quote]

how can ANYBODY be happy bisu not get trough ? even if not on best, so much history/drama and potencial in this guy.
i mean what you want "oh here a new guy i dont knoiw vs a guy we said all above"
or "hey bisu he is blablabla" so much to say to fill start time of a game ^^

Coming from a non bw background, I just hope to have a better skilled player to qualify.
Much better to see good players playing amazingly than a famous player playing average level and completely disappoint everyone
For example everyone says flash is god etc, but he isn't really doing anything all that amazing compared to other top players.

You probably don't watch proleague if you say that. Flash is an amazing player in Proleague.

GSL is a tournament that the KeSPA players don't care very much about. Look at who qualified in code A: mostly b-teamers who don't practice for PL because they aren't good enough to be sent out anyway.


he said Flash isn't doing anything amazing compared to the other top players which is true

also, all the good kespa players are trying to qualify but they failed to do so. I don't really buy the excuse that they didn't prepare enough, if they're that much better than the B teamers not good enough to play in proleague they should be able to win without preparing, which they did in the case of rain, s2, true and shine.


Reason is SC2 is too random, anyone can win against anyone among Korean progamers. Even life and parting will have a hard time in qualifers if they are not lucky.



That last sentence killed my soul. And it would probably kill Partings if he heard that... SC2 is not THAT random, Life and Parting would blow the qualifiers away just based on their body of work.

Keep in mind that Parting bombed out hard at IEM. And he only won 2-1 against combatez.


didn't parting take third at iem? and he lost to Dream, a Code A player.


a code a player that is known as a very very good tvp sniper, and is also known to have a huge weakness vs zerg. kind of hard to not be code a when so much of code s is zerg.


Exactly, don't forget he took out Rain as well. Dream has some of the best TvP, it's just really sad he is terrible against Zerg otherwise he would go far.

He also 2-0d Creator in the IPL qualifiers
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 31 2013 02:10 GMT
#1195
20 minutes until brackets. http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=229785
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
January 31 2013 02:11 GMT
#1196
On January 31 2013 11:01 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 01:15 FineAndDandy wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:48 Dodgin wrote:
On January 31 2013 00:40 Elroi wrote:
On January 30 2013 23:54 ETisME wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:58 CoR wrote:
On January 30 2013 18:56 derpface wrote:
Yes BISU didnt get through!!!! Even though it was pretty mich a given he wouldnt qualify.

Sad though that MMA didnt get through

Also lol at Artosis being named a notable player.


how can ANYBODY be happy bisu not get trough ? even if not on best, so much history/drama and potencial in this guy.
i mean what you want "oh here a new guy i dont knoiw vs a guy we said all above"
or "hey bisu he is blablabla" so much to say to fill start time of a game ^^

Coming from a non bw background, I just hope to have a better skilled player to qualify.
Much better to see good players playing amazingly than a famous player playing average level and completely disappoint everyone
For example everyone says flash is god etc, but he isn't really doing anything all that amazing compared to other top players.

You probably don't watch proleague if you say that. Flash is an amazing player in Proleague.

GSL is a tournament that the KeSPA players don't care very much about. Look at who qualified in code A: mostly b-teamers who don't practice for PL because they aren't good enough to be sent out anyway.


he said Flash isn't doing anything amazing compared to the other top players which is true

also, all the good kespa players are trying to qualify but they failed to do so. I don't really buy the excuse that they didn't prepare enough, if they're that much better than the B teamers not good enough to play in proleague they should be able to win without preparing, which they did in the case of rain, s2, true and shine.


Reason is SC2 is too random, anyone can win against anyone among Korean progamers. Even life and parting will have a hard time in qualifers if they are not lucky.



That's not an argument you can make anymore. Do you even watch pro SC2?

Look at how Artosis spoke about his matches, he wasn't upset he lost. He was upset because the way he lost he knew he could NEVER beat the person he was facing.

Startale Life doesn't go and win 4 major tournaments in a row by "luck". People need to stop with that bullshit excuse.

MKP doesn't have 11 Code S appearances because that 50/50 coin flipped in his favor 11 times in a row.

MVP didn't win 4 GSLs before his wrists exploded because he always threw Rock and they always threw Scissors.

They are there because they are far fucking better than the people you keep making this excuse for.

Life would crush every single player who didn't make it out of that qualifier in a row in BO3s without breaking a sweat and probably without losing a single game.

well said
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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
January 31 2013 02:23 GMT
#1197
Go Choya!
HentaiKing
Profile Joined January 2013
United States3 Posts
January 31 2013 02:26 GMT
#1198
poor MMA, he deserves it more than rain
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
January 31 2013 02:27 GMT
#1199
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p

Haha he did say in his previous interview he has some thoughts of breaking out as a player this year
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 02:27 GMT
#1200
On January 31 2013 11:27 Weirdkid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 10:57 sitromit wrote:
Choya is trying to qualify still? :p

Haha he did say in his previous interview he has some thoughts of breaking out as a player this year

well he defeated the fearsome ST_Legend so he has a good shot at a GSL title imo
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