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Usual rules apply. Balance whine will be moderated harshly.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
January 26 2013 18:52 GMT
#3161
dat Ultralisk cheer lol, french are definitively zergs
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
January 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#3162
ZvZ final. welcome to 2013
:-)
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
January 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#3163
On January 27 2013 03:52 Gamegene wrote:
why are they replaying MKP vs Nestea on the stage again?

Ahaha, you got me.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
January 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#3164
what a crowd , you go France
as1
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
January 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#3165
On January 27 2013 03:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 03:49 decado90 wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:44 Heartland wrote:
What can be so weird about Starcraft is that for a few months you can watch someone who seems unbeatable. I mean, there was a time when MKP was one of the greatest. Now he just feels like a punching bag.



A lot of Terran's TvZ went to the shitter after the queen buff.


MKP in an interview said that his TvZ winrate in practice dropped to 10%. He's never fully recovered.

When his TvZ was unbeatable he utilized a lot of early pressure and capitalized on his superior micro: combat shield timings, marine helion banshee pressure, 2 rax, etc. None of those builds are viable anymore.


honestly I was never impressed with his TvZ. Just feels like he's ridiculously greedy without the cerebral aspect of Flash, Bomber or MVP to get away with it consistently. Pretty good if he manages to get rolling though. It's why Symbol 3-0'd him last Iron Squid before the queen patch.


his unpunished greed along with his amazing micro allowed him to win. he never really showed an amazing understanding of the matchup like some other terrans did
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
January 26 2013 18:54 GMT
#3166
Oh shit dragonforce are getting back on stage
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
January 26 2013 18:54 GMT
#3167
BW theme played live on french stream.
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3168
Back in the days when Nestea was dominating, he would rarely do stuff like this. I don't remember him baneling busting a lot, that was July's thing. But then Terrans weren't doing 3 CC double engineering bay builds. And when they started to do those 3 CC openings is when Nestea's ZvT results really began to get worse and worse, because he really needs a macro lead to win with the cost inefficient heavy-baneling muta style he plays. Seems like his play lately focuses more on countering Terran macro, either by all ins, or by those creep tricks to delay/deny the 3rd for a long time.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3169
On January 27 2013 03:53 LeeDawg wrote:
ZvZ final. welcome to 2013


Lol, just for a few more months, until the dawn of the protoss age, and then so many nerfs, and then the Terran shall rise again.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3170
they will play brood war them on the french stream
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3171
Sad Nestea couldn't take home the title, but how's he been playing? ;o Curious about his form going into Code S.
Long live the King of Wings
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3172
lol at french stream, brood war !
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3173
On January 27 2013 03:52 a3den wrote:
dat Ultralisk cheer lol, french are definitively zergs


lol, racist!
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 18:56:40
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3174
MKP's main problem isn't his greed, it's that he doesn't scout at all. He could hold those all ins even with his greed if he knew they were coming, so could prepare better for them. He said once in a gsl interview he would scout more since he kept losing to all ins. Sadly, he didn't keep his word and not even dimaga 6 pooling him 3 games in a row teaches him to scout. MKP would win GSL if he ever became scouting king prime. It's the main thing holding him back, but he's just too damn stubborn to scout.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3175
terran music for zvz finals :D
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3176
original sc themes :D
Terran & Potato Salad.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3177
Day 9 really showing his socially awkward geek side here with a chick beside him.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#3178
my god they have a ton of shit for this final O.O
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
January 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3179
OMG!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 18:56 GMT
#3180
Yeah SC music!
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