I think HerO didn't specifically prepare for this map and did not watch JangBi's previous game on it.

Oh well. Someone else in EG-TL to close it. Wish it was TaeJa...

Maesy

United States1444 Posts

January 14 2013 10:27 GMT

#876

On January 14 2013 19:26 Pandemona wrote:
What a fucking shite way to lose an all kill in SPL. Fucking 4gated on Arkanoid, such a joke. Jangbi should hang his head in shame.

... you mad?

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Clefairy

1570 Posts

January 14 2013 10:27 GMT

#877

EG-TL will probably give another free win with Huk or Thorzain next

ZachFreeman

Australia484 Posts

January 14 2013 10:27 GMT

#878

On January 14 2013 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:

Show nested quote +

LOL, so bm towards yourself

What's going on guys? Is HerO winning yet?

One is allowed to be BM toward themself

Geiko

France1936 Posts

January 14 2013 10:27 GMT

#879

In this post, I will demonstrate how to effectively gain vision over any ramp that has been forcefielded once with the help of only one low energy sentry. Practically, this means that any Blink all-in build in PvP will be able to blink in your main at 7:00-7:10 provided that you only used one forcefield.

Good Protoss players know that there is only one way to correctly place an FF on your ramp when dealing with a blink all-in.

(1) too high...+ Show Spoiler +

(2) too low ...+ Show Spoiler +

(3) just right !+ Show Spoiler +

If placed too high (1), a single zealot or probe moved to a corner of the FF will gain high ground vision (trying this with a stalker will cause the vision to glitch on and off and you will be unable to blink in)
If placed too low (2), stalkers are able to blink over and provide vision
(3) is the only correct way to place your FF to deny vision up the ramp

After extensive testing, I have figured out a way to gain vision, even if the FF is in position (3).

I use a zealot in this video but it also works with a stalker

Place your zealot or stalker in the corner of the FF and hold position (so he doesn't move back when units shoot at him)
Forcefield right behind him so the border of your own forcefield reaches the middle of the ramp while still trapping your zealot
Wait for his first FF to wear off and blink up the ramp

This technique works as long as your zealot/stalker doesn't get killed by the units on top of the ramp (send your zealot 8-10 seconds after the initial FF to minimize exposed time). It works even if your opponent stacks his FF. Seemingly, earlier FFs have priority over later FFs when deciding by which FF the zealot is going to be pushed.

Practical uses include improved 4 gating if your opponent uses positions (1) or (3) to FF his ramp, or improved blink all-ins against Stargate builds or greedy tech builds.

Example of pro games (SPL) where this could have been used to change the outcome of the game:
HerO vs Rain @7:15 ingame time
Mini vs Wookie @7:10 ingame time

4 gate considerations: This technique can also be used to 4 gate in PvP, however this will not work if opponent places his FF as in (2) or lower.