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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
January 06 2013 15:26 GMT
#801
Fantasy and Flash showing some Terran skilz, awesome night. Off to watch the VODs!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 06 2013 15:32 GMT
#802
Poor Fantasy, outshined by Flash again.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 06 2013 15:37 GMT
#803
Flash 4 kills, Fantasy 3 kills, amazing start ! Too bad Fantasy wasn't sent first, I would have loved to see a double all kill from KT and SKT.
ॐ
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
January 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#804
Impressive showing by Fantasy, especially that game where he was harassing like a mad man.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 19:55:38
January 06 2013 19:54 GMT
#805
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 06 2013 20:29 GMT
#806
the 20k+ was obviously due to the fact it was opening day and EG-TL were playing.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 06 2013 20:31 GMT
#807
On January 07 2013 04:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.


I honestly wouldn't judge the popularity of the proleague based on single stream done in English cast. The majority of old-school PL fans, or really just any of the many who loved PL in the BW era, prefer Korean commentary. I personally watch using the OGN HD Stream in my VLC, and I know many other PL fans who do this. Additionally, the youtube stream is a popular destination. You're also failing to see that the PL is difficult league to follow via a live stream. It happens four days a week, and fans usually watch only on night their particular teams are playing. KT and SKT fanboys will flood streams all the time because there are so many of them, but lesser followed clubs like STX and Woongjin generally see lower stream numbers; however, the popularity of the PL as a whole is very large in the foreign community. What I am very concerned about is the lack of people in the seats. Again, this could be because PL is happening four days a week again now, and has a very very long season, but I am beginning to worry if Koreans will truly appreciate an SC2 Proleague. We can only hope.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 21:00:12
January 06 2013 20:33 GMT
#808
On January 07 2013 05:29 opterown wrote:
the 20k+ was obviously due to the fact it was opening day and EG-TL were playing.


It could also have something to do with the notion that promotion on a big twitter account and 2 huge Youtube channels contributes significantly to audience numbers. During the time the 5 hour promo was running on my main channel it had 50,000 unique views, the Twitter account had 140,000 followers and the video on the SC2 channel ended up with about 13,000 views. These are things one has to take into account and also why casters with a higher-profile tend to get picked for tournaments.

Flat out ignoring the fact that high-profile casters and their promotion = more views is just silly.

Day 2 also had extremely strong numbers despite EGTL not playing. Those numbers have not been replicated since. There is no question that Proleague numbers are not as strong as the first two broadcasts, with a drop of anywhere between about 33-75% in audience depending on who is playing in comparison. As to what you attribute that to well that's up to you, but I maintain that putting inexperienced casters on an important tournament especially when one of them cannot enunciate correctly in the language he is expected to speak, is detrimental to that tournaments potential growth. That of course, was KeSPAs decision.

On the flipside, there's been a clear improvement in visual fidelity and the increased framerate helps (though it seems to be running at something like 40 rather than 60). GOM needs to step it up in comparison.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
January 06 2013 23:05 GMT
#809
FYI, the inspiration for the banner

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Что?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#810
On January 07 2013 04:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.


As I said before in this very thread, there is a conflict of interest here TB and I already laid out the ground work in the EG-TL production thread, which was closed. You should just drop it.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
January 06 2013 23:26 GMT
#811
On January 07 2013 04:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.


I could have sworn the Flash all-kill hit 20k concurrent viewers at one point :O
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#812
On January 07 2013 08:26 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.


I could have sworn the Flash all-kill hit 20k concurrent viewers at one point :O


it did, right at the end.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
January 06 2013 23:46 GMT
#813
Wow so amazing to be able to see vods for free, and in decent quality! =D
Does not matter if it's korean casting, it's even better.
I will finally get to see all those amazing terrans.
WriterMaru
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 00:01:47
January 06 2013 23:54 GMT
#814
Can someone make the threads for today? I'm doing the GSL thread and I'd like to get some sleep before since I start classes tomorrow. OPs are premade
CJ Entus vs Team 8 : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=13#257 -made by Shady Sands
Samsung KHAN vs Woongjin Stars: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=13#258
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
January 07 2013 00:00 GMT
#815
On January 07 2013 08:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Can someone make the threads for today? I'm doing the GSL thread and I'd like to get some sleep before since I start classes tomorrow. OPs are premade
CJ Entus vs Team 8 : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=13#257
Samsung KHAN vs Woongjin Stars: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=13#258

I took CJ vs Team 8.
Что?
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
January 07 2013 01:18 GMT
#816
Thank you Last and Pantaji for my FPL points!! (=
Fantasy is soooo goood, was the number 1 of the world at the end of BW and is a high level terran at sc2.
JD is BONJWA!
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
January 07 2013 01:39 GMT
#817
Poor Bisu, never gonna play again.. tt
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
PurePwnageofTerran
Profile Joined December 2011
268 Posts
January 07 2013 05:06 GMT
#818
Are there any english vods on esports or anywhere?? I dont understand korean lol
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 07 2013 06:05 GMT
#819
SpL is what 5 or 6$ ? Thats cheap.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 07 2013 07:11 GMT
#820
On January 07 2013 08:09 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:07 tiMelEfT wrote:
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote:
11k viewers, interesting


Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


I love being misquoted.

First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.

The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.


As I said before in this very thread, there is a conflict of interest here TB and I already laid out the ground work in the EG-TL production thread, which was closed. You should just drop it.


What conflict of interest is that exactly?

Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB


Also can I just say? T8 vs CJ current viewers 3 games in, - 4742. Just imagine that if I were a petulant man I would be dancing around with a big "you were saying?" sign.

But I'm not, I just like contributing to discussions from a position of knowing a few things.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
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