On January 06 2013 03:39 NotRandoMNamE wrote: SKT1 strategy = send out Bisu as the last man = win because the other team is too busy laughing drooling over his looks.
Gogo SKT T1, you are my team pick hope you destroy! Tho I don't have any player except a 1 pointer from SKT, so as long as SKT wins I don't mind which player performs :D.
On January 06 2013 04:27 Fischbacher wrote: Can't believe they didn't save the BeSt for Last...
Anyway, I think SKT1 has this one, even though I think STX will be taking the first map.
On January 06 2013 04:27 Nerfed wrote: SKT1 fightiiing.
And now just imagine set 7 Bisu vs Clam
There is a player called Clam? O.o
It's a joke from BW. Calm when he plays well. Clam when he plays bad. ;p
This is completely unrelated and a bit homosexual, but I always found Calm to be one of the cuter progamers.
He is indeed. Everyone is drooling about Bisu and Calm doesn't get nearly any compliments. Last is good looking too and that actually influenced my FPL pick in last round. I wish they would both do well.
So many SKT T1 fanboys voting in those polls. I think that Bogus can beat anybody on SKT except for Rain, so if STX can manage to take Rain out in a PvP, I think they have it.
On January 06 2013 10:41 opterown wrote: ok SKT, it's your job to make trap and hyvaa die a slow, horrible death! STX you failed me in R1, please don't rape my anti in R2 haha
On January 06 2013 10:41 opterown wrote: ok SKT, it's your job to make trap and hyvaa die a slow, horrible death! STX you failed me in R1, please don't rape my anti in R2 haha
Have to say I feel like SKT1 has this, however I feel like STX has the ability to make it a close one. SKT1 fighting! (Excited to see Fantasy get some kills)
On January 06 2013 10:41 opterown wrote: ok SKT, it's your job to make trap and hyvaa die a slow, horrible death! STX you failed me in R1, please don't rape my anti in R2 haha
You bet on the wrong horse.
going STX didn't work for me in R1 sadly T_T
If you go with STX is always ends in disappointment. X_X
Okay so I invested half of my FPL team's points into Stats and Bogus. Stats is only getting me 1 point because Flash doesn't share, so if Bogus doesn't get any points I am going to be pissed. That being said, I'm confident. Let's see Bogus vs Fantasy, because let's be honest, that would blow the Taeja v Flash game that just happened right out of the water in terms of skill.
oh wow... even though the last matches were awesome, i cant help but feel so turned off when i see that nobody really cares about proleague in korea... it feels like an artificial hype
On January 06 2013 14:38 CoL_DarkstaR wrote: oh wow... even though the last matches were awesome, i cant help but feel so turned off when i see that nobody really cares about proleague in korea... it feels like an artificial hype
you're here aren't you that enough? frigging cry babies.
Why do they even do these interviews? Its seriously bizarre. They say the exact same thing almost word for word. Does this feel like an actual interview in Korea? I feel like everyone else would feel the same.
On January 06 2013 14:38 CoL_DarkstaR wrote: oh wow... even though the last matches were awesome, i cant help but feel so turned off when i see that nobody really cares about proleague in korea... it feels like an artificial hype
as long as you're enjoying it who cares, if proleague goes away eventually because Korea doesn't care about it then that's just too bad.
SPL is definitely awesome. I like 4 days a week out of 7 (plus GSL and other stuff).
Even just listening to the audio while playing other games is fun. (That's how I deal with the "viewer fatigue" problem, I don't always watch it but just listen to the audio while doing something else.)
Hope it catches on more (viewer count has been consistently at 15-20k for games involving EGTL so far).
I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
It's all about using new maps to keep things fresh. Other tournaments really have to catch on.
On January 06 2013 14:42 Goldfish wrote: SPL is definitely awesome. I like 4 days a week out of 7 (plus GSL and other stuff).
Even just listening to the audio while playing other games is fun. (That's how I deal with the "viewer fatigue" problem, I don't always watch it but just listen to the audio while doing something else.)
Hope it catches on more (viewer count has been consistently at 15-20k for games involving EGTL so far).
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
I like BiFrost too, the stats on that map are really balanced last time I checked.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
I like BiFrost too, the stats on that map are really balanced last time I checked.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
I like BiFrost too, the stats on that map are really balanced last time I checked.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
On January 06 2013 14:51 AgentW wrote: I didn't care for the new KeSPA maps initially, but I think they create some refreshing games. Glad to see a bunch of the new maps being set early in these matches.
I really like Planet S - wish that one was on ladder.
I cant wait until Arkanoid is added on the ladder
Let me guess: you play Terran?
I play random now. I just think it would be comical
On January 06 2013 14:55 Waxangel wrote: for karmic reasons, SKT has to get all-killed
I hope your karmic backlash is better than mine.
Jessica publicly bashed EG-TL management's strategic decisions on twitter, so it follows that her BF's team has to lose by law of karma
ROFL
Okay, I'll buy into that now.
I want to see that tweet lol, after all the SlayerS stuff, I can only imagine what she wants to start with the TL crew. EDIT: of all the things to bash, she actually bashed player choice? Karma's gonna be sweet this time lol.
On January 06 2013 15:03 BisuDagger wrote: Best did a great job breaking contain. Maybe could have saved one or two probes.
that was actually an awful break tbh, should have waited for a warp prism and dropped in two immortals from behind if he was gonna suicide into a choke.
Never! I started to enjoy it now... And those comical phrases makes it easier to watch some of the really painfully bad games. Takes away some of the seriousness and tension.
buildings are actually strangely very powerful even floating factories really make me rage sometimes on ladder when i A-move and half my stalkers are hitting that dayum factory. seems units will autoattack a building instead of moving forward to get new units
On January 06 2013 15:18 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Uhh Zerg favoured against Terran on Antiga?
I believe the win rate has been slightly in Zerg's favor on Antiga ever since the queen patch although it isnt too far from 50/50
Yeah I always thought it was known as a Terran favoured map but lately (since the patch I guess) has been 50/50. SNM said (twice, no less) that it was traditionally Zerg favoured.
On January 06 2013 15:30 pdd wrote: Btw, just was wondering if the same restriction applied for Round 2 with regards to "at least 1 race picked each match per team"?
Probably not, since there are only 4 players can be sent out. Not like 6 players in regular format.
On January 06 2013 15:30 pdd wrote: Btw, just was wondering if the same restriction applied for Round 2 with regards to "at least 1 race picked each match per team"?
I think so yes, it works out well for SKT since their 3 best players are all of a different race.
On January 06 2013 15:30 pdd wrote: Btw, just was wondering if the same restriction applied for Round 2 with regards to "at least 1 race picked each match per team"?
EDIT: read that back and I know what you mean now lol
Wait why is everyone suddenly like "man if Soo all-kills..." when he's only won one game :o
It would nice though. I have both Soo and Bogus, and if Soo AKs I'll be happy anyway because he'll be taking the points I'd get from Bogus and if they're going to eat each other up anyway...
On January 06 2013 15:36 dainbramage wrote: Just tuned in... when did they switch to all-kill format?
Because it's Round 2. All teams have played each other already and that marked the end of Round 1. When all teams have played the other 7 teams again it moves to Round 3 when its normal Proleague format again.
On January 06 2013 15:38 StarStruck wrote: I need Soo to get rid of Bogus right away for damage control.
Oh snap lol, you have Bogus on your anti :S
Rawr FPL ---> so much emotional investment haha
bogus was actually underpriced currently iirc; he scores more than his price suggests; not too wise choice for anti
Well for anti-teams he was priced at 8 and for someone who hasn't been absolutely dominating everyone and playing around 50-50 I decided hey why not that way the other guys on my anti won't do any damage at all! D:
On January 06 2013 15:38 StarStruck wrote: I need Soo to get rid of Bogus right away for damage control.
Oh snap lol, you have Bogus on your anti :S
Rawr FPL ---> so much emotional investment haha
bogus was actually underpriced currently iirc; he scores more than his price suggests; not too wise choice for anti
Yeah I have both Bogus and Soo on my main :/
Kind of good, but they'll eat each other's points up, so in that case I'd rather Soo win (and keep on winning) because I have SKT as my team. Bogus is also my captain, so if Soo does really well today, it would also open up the option to trade up :x
On January 06 2013 15:38 StarStruck wrote: I need Soo to get rid of Bogus right away for damage control.
Oh snap lol, you have Bogus on your anti :S
Rawr FPL ---> so much emotional investment haha
bogus was actually underpriced currently iirc; he scores more than his price suggests; not too wise choice for anti
Well for anti-teams he was priced at 8 and for someone who hasn't been absolutely dominating everyone and playing around 50-50 I decided hey why not that way the other guys on my anti won't do any damage at all! D:
On January 06 2013 15:38 StarStruck wrote: I need Soo to get rid of Bogus right away for damage control.
Oh snap lol, you have Bogus on your anti :S
Rawr FPL ---> so much emotional investment haha
bogus was actually underpriced currently iirc; he scores more than his price suggests; not too wise choice for anti
Well for anti-teams he was priced at 8 and for someone who hasn't been absolutely dominating everyone and playing around 50-50 I decided hey why not that way the other guys on my anti won't do any damage at all! D:
That's Bogus, Man.
Yeah, I mean no point really in discussing these things and critiquing one another's decisions--we just pick what we pick and the players will do as well as they can. Though fwiw Bogus beat some very good opponents and lost to some very good opponents with that record.
On January 06 2013 15:38 StarStruck wrote: I need Soo to get rid of Bogus right away for damage control.
Oh snap lol, you have Bogus on your anti :S
Rawr FPL ---> so much emotional investment haha
bogus was actually underpriced currently iirc; he scores more than his price suggests; not too wise choice for anti
Well for anti-teams he was priced at 8 and for someone who hasn't been absolutely dominating everyone and playing around 50-50 I decided hey why not that way the other guys on my anti won't do any damage at all! D:
That's Bogus, Man.
Yeah, I mean no point really in discussing these things and critiquing one another's decisions--we just pick what we pick and the players will do as well as they can. Though fwiw Bogus beat some very good opponents and lost to some very good opponents with that record.
Yeah, but it's AK so we're only going to see the BeSt ;O Which might not even be that good lol
On January 06 2013 15:48 sitromit wrote: Drop play with Infestors? Interesting, I wonder how this will turn out. Is he going to drop banelings?
I think it was Golden? there was some zerg that did this troll game in some team league where he went for mass infestors and infestor drops and it ended up doing ok and he won the game. I think it was in one of the IPL team leagues on metropolis
On January 06 2013 15:48 sitromit wrote: Drop play with Infestors? Interesting, I wonder how this will turn out. Is he going to drop banelings?
I think it was Golden? there was some zerg that did this troll game in some team league where he went for mass infestors and infestor drops and it ended up doing ok and he won the game. I think it was in one of the IPL team leagues on metropolis
He actually doesn't have Overlord speed though? I never saw it start. Maybe he just fat fingered the hotkey for drops?
On January 06 2013 15:48 sitromit wrote: Drop play with Infestors? Interesting, I wonder how this will turn out. Is he going to drop banelings?
I think it was Golden? there was some zerg that did this troll game in some team league where he went for mass infestors and infestor drops and it ended up doing ok and he won the game. I think it was in one of the IPL team leagues on metropolis
He actually doesn't have Overlord speed though? I never saw it start. Maybe he just fat fingered the hotkey for drops?
He never used it. I didnt look to see if he canceled but I dont see the drop cargo bar popping up so i think it was canceled
On January 06 2013 15:50 Aerisky wrote: Jesus soO is actually really fucking good lol
Hot diggity dayum.
I can't believe he was only 5 points.
Yes anyone who didn't take him at that price made a mistake. Luckily I took him but I also downgraded from Flash to Fantasy to make the points work out and that's looking dubious at the moment.
On January 06 2013 15:50 Aerisky wrote: Jesus soO is actually really fucking good lol
Hot diggity dayum.
I can't believe he was only 5 points.
Yes anyone who didn't take him at that price made a mistake. Luckily I took him but I also downgraded from Flash to Fantasy to make the points work out and that's looking dubious at the moment.
is this really winnable for him in the long term without ravens or ghosts? It doesn't seem like he can ever win the big battle without them, but I guess he can just outspend him at this rate...
On January 06 2013 16:01 Waxangel wrote: is this really winnable for him in the long term without ravens or ghosts? It doesn't seem like he can ever win the big battle without them, but I guess he can just outspend him at this rate...
I have bogus too but soO winning would be better--I have SKT as my team and if soO strings together a bunch of kills it will be the same anyway since it's soo v bogus :\
He doesn't have gas for any good units at the end. And also, without those corruptors, he would've been killed 10 mins ago. I wouldn't say those corruptors are bad choice of units.
Now...okay fuck it I'm too tired to work it out at this point. I have SKT and Bogus... I have points from both Bogus and soO. I hope SKT wins but Bogus gets a 1 more win @_@
On January 06 2013 16:03 Waxangel wrote: wait so he forgot the part where he needs BLs?
Wasn't he gas starved or something?
He was. But it was because he over made corrupters.
to be fair theres a shitload of vikings out there. And Bogus makes use of that so well, he takes both golds
He had 25+ corrupters left after killing all the Vikings.
And in these max vs max battles, ironically, BLs are actually good vs Vikings in that they can take out the Thors quickly and reduce all that splash damage to your corrupters which just kills the Vikings.
There were 19-20k viewers just now for the EGTL KT game. 10-11k average is decent considering how many days in a week the games are being played and considering this is a long-running Proleague season (there's no finals or something till end of the year/season).
On January 06 2013 16:10 pdd wrote: There were 19-20k viewers just now for the EGTL KT game. 10-11k average is decent considering how many days in a week the games are being played and considering this is a long-running Proleague season (there's no finals or something till end of the year/season).
This has been pretty normal this season. When it's not EG-TL it was averaging around 7k so this is an improvement.
On January 06 2013 16:10 pdd wrote: There were 19-20k viewers just now for the EGTL KT game. 10-11k average is decent considering how many days in a week the games are being played and considering this is a long-running Proleague season (there's no finals or something till end of the year/season).
If they actually hyped it up and introduced more fans to some of the Koreans they could get so much more for the non EG-TL games. The best part about the EG-TL broadcasts was they actually hyped/told people they games were happening.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Well GSL has been on hiatus for a really long time, but unfortunately, yeah, I'm getting more and more interested in the SPL. Prefer the team-focused format that the GSTL never really could imitate. We'll see though with GSL coming back again.
So, do you guys think Fanta has this one? I'm unconvinced of Fanta right now, I feel like Bogus has this. EDIT: I'm talking about the constant reaper builds lol.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
GSL no
GSTL/Other teams leagues yes, but it was always the best team league so that shouldn't be a surprise. Team leagues need to start having good prize pools/tournament structures to make teams try 100% in every match.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
Yes there was 1 season of fantasy GSTL when they did a round robin season format in 2011 but they changed their format to the weird shit they've been doing lately. They are trying to change to a season form in 2013
On January 06 2013 16:10 pdd wrote: There were 19-20k viewers just now for the EGTL KT game. 10-11k average is decent considering how many days in a week the games are being played and considering this is a long-running Proleague season (there's no finals or something till end of the year/season).
If they actually hyped it up and introduced more fans to some of the Koreans they could get so much more for the non EG-TL games. The best part about the EG-TL broadcasts was they actually hyped/told people they games were happening.
Gogo SKT
Huh? Not the way I see it if you're talking about the eg-tl stream the first week and a bit lol
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
Are you serious??O_O Well, I'm not active enough to take part in either. I have a lot to do for school this semester. Just thought it could be a possible reason as to why SPL has been getting popular again in TL.
On January 06 2013 16:22 TheEmulator wrote: Go Fantasy!!! Everyone on my FPL has failed me, but you won't I hope
Apologies for not paying enough attention but do you staff guys get 2 teams, 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal, or do you have to use your staff FPL for everything?
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
Oh alright. That could be part of SPL's resurgence in the community then. That and the fact that the Kespa teams are no longer playing two games.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
O; Another one will start up soon in time.
They could only do one because the GSTL format isn't friendly for fantasy. They did the one season of round robin but they said they are going back to that in 2013 so we should be seeing fantasy GSTL again hopefully
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
Oh alright. That could be part of SPL's resurgence in the community then. That and the fact that the Kespa teams are no longer playing two games.
I think it also helps that Kespa games can get pretty wacky
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There was. Doesn't work nearly as well.
It's their format/tournament that works against it. Really need actual seasons and these rounds for FPL are too short ;/
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
It's all because of EG-TL and the fact that nothing else is on. if EG-TL didn't go to proleague, airforce ace was still alive and they didn't launch during the GSL offseason it wouldn't be nearly this popular.
On January 06 2013 16:17 decado90 wrote: Does anyone else feel that SPL is beginning to overshadow the GSL?
Not really? For one, they're different formats, and SPL doesn't have non-kespa players (for the most part). There also hasn't really been any chance to compare the two in terms of timing. This is really only the first "real" season of SPL because hybrid format will live in infamy or people will try to forget about it lol
Sounds like mild flamebait lol
Hybrid season. LOL! Anyway, maybe a lot of the community tunes in to SPL because of FPL. Was there ever a FGSTL?
There is one going on as we speak facepalm. Just check the fantasy pages lol.
nah that league ended like over a year ago. That GSTL season finished in 2011 I believe.
O; Another one will start up soon in time.
They could only do one because the GSTL format isn't friendly for fantasy. They did the one season of round robin but they said they are going back to that in 2013 so we should be seeing fantasy GSTL again hopefully
Yeah man, it's the format that really works against it in the first place. I haven't been playing in it at all.
On January 06 2013 16:22 TheEmulator wrote: Go Fantasy!!! Everyone on my FPL has failed me, but you won't I hope
Apologies for not paying enough attention but do you staff guys get 2 teams, 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal, or do you have to use your staff FPL for everything?
Most of them have 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal FPL. The staff FPL is just a fun thing monk decided to do last second, and it is not related to the other FPL's on TL. This is also the first FPL I have even been in
On January 06 2013 16:22 TheEmulator wrote: Go Fantasy!!! Everyone on my FPL has failed me, but you won't I hope
Apologies for not paying enough attention but do you staff guys get 2 teams, 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal, or do you have to use your staff FPL for everything?
Most of them have 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal FPL. The staff FPL is just a fun thing monk decided to do last second, and it is not related to the other FPL's on TL. This is also the first FPL I have even been in
Haha nice. I was just thinking, it would be a huge nerf for you guys if you had to do that draft thing against unrestricted other posters. Then again, 2 teams also seems like a lot to take care of for me.
I'm sad because Bogus lost, but honestly I love when those two collide. The first game of BW I ever watched was Bogus vs Fantasy back in 2009 PL Playoffs. Both of those guys have such good tank control, I wish Bogus could have won, but that siege up on all of Bogus's depots and shutting down his upgrades was too much.
On January 06 2013 16:22 TheEmulator wrote: Go Fantasy!!! Everyone on my FPL has failed me, but you won't I hope
Apologies for not paying enough attention but do you staff guys get 2 teams, 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal, or do you have to use your staff FPL for everything?
1 staff and 1 normal. Sometimes the teams conflict, but it's interesting that each staff playing owns about a total of 16 players and 2 teams between the two different teams. Combine that with the fact that we care about our "opponents" in staff FPL means that we care about how 23 players and 3 teams do per round. So basically every match is important to us.
On January 06 2013 16:34 Dodgin wrote: despite the fact that there are 11k viewers apparently no one on TL is watching this ;d
fanboys are still too busy praising Flash in the other thread
To be fair, Flash did play ridiculously well tonight. His control and macro was beautiful to watch. Watching him play looked like watching Terrans a year and a half ago back before Terran got nerfed into oblivion.
On January 06 2013 16:34 Dodgin wrote: despite the fact that there are 11k viewers apparently no one on TL is watching this ;d
fanboys are still too busy praising Flash in the other thread
To be fair, Flash did play ridiculously well tonight. His control and macro was beautiful to watch. Watching him play looked like watching Terrans a year and a half ago back before Terran got nerfed into oblivion.
On January 06 2013 16:22 TheEmulator wrote: Go Fantasy!!! Everyone on my FPL has failed me, but you won't I hope
Apologies for not paying enough attention but do you staff guys get 2 teams, 1 for staff FPL and 1 for normal, or do you have to use your staff FPL for everything?
1 staff and 1 normal. Sometimes the teams conflict, but it's interesting that each staff playing owns about a total of 16 players and 2 teams between the two different teams. Combine that with the fact that we care about our "opponents" in staff FPL means that we care about how 23 players and 3 teams do per round. So basically every match is important to us.
Man that's pretty crazy. Are you sure you guys won't get overloaded?
On January 06 2013 16:34 Dodgin wrote: despite the fact that there are 11k viewers apparently no one on TL is watching this ;d
fanboys are still too busy praising Flash in the other thread
Dude, you are posting so much now. This is fantastic. Your signature got outdated quickly.
In my defense he said it when I was at like 27900 and I was typing out a lot of LRs the last few days
299.39 average every week is still hardcore. Grandmaster forum-guy.
What a machine
Can someone calculate how many hours a day is that??
you guys are acting like I dont do anything else D: I still go to school and do social life stuff and I was working in a lab. Working in the lab just gave me like 6 hours of free time while I was waiting for my reactions to run so after I finished my homework I just watched starcraft because I couldn't leave. I just had to be in the same building as the experiment to make sure it didn't mess up. I should probably sleep more, though.
I'm surprised we aren't getting more players/personalities commentating these games on there streams, I'm sure they would get decent viewers with how many people are unhappy.
On January 06 2013 16:44 opterown wrote: considering hyvaa will probably play as ace, i really need fanta to sweep STX now!
I think Dear will be the ace because he did well in round 1
Dear is who I am expecting but hyvaa could come out too. The only thing that's going to happen for sure is that they will carry STX to VICTORY!! + Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
They wouldn't be able to keep up with the volume of critics
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
Maybe if they came here they'd be better sc2 casters
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
You mean and ask for advice?
I thought Khaldor's casting doubled in value when he made his thread asking for advice. I didn't like him at first but love him now.
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
The difference is that Khaldor is intimidating, just writing about him scares me + Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2013 16:49 Waxangel wrote: whiplash and snm need to be more like khaldor and come into these LR threads between games and smackdown their critics
The difference is that Khaldor is intimidating, just writing about him scares me + Show Spoiler +
what if he's reading this???
it's too late, just go to sleep and be thankful if you wake up
Fantasy is trying to be really cute, but I don't see this working. He's committed so hard with 4 Hellions and ~half a MULE and he's only gotten like three probes.
On January 06 2013 16:52 Dodgin wrote: you never know if khaldor is gonna pop into the thread and smack us armchair casters down, it's scary.
good thing he's legitimately good now so there's no reason to criticize.
Was he bad before?
I have always enjoyed him.
I don't know many guys who didn't like him from the start. Lots of guys were touting his horn right from the start and that was when he was casting in German :D
i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Fantasy looked fine his other days so I'm willing to assume he just had a really bad day vs RorO. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried harder in SPL though since it's the most important league to them
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Their main focus has always been PL.
It's basically what they get paid for.
I feel like these guys are going to try hard in GSL though, they aren't making as much money as they were in brood war and the GSL prize pool is a chance at some big money.
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Their main focus has always been PL.
It's basically what they get paid for.
I feel like these guys are going to try hard in GSL though, they aren't making as much money as they were in brood war and the GSL prize pool is a chance at some big money.
especially the poorer teams.
GSL is ridiculously top heavy though, it's not very efficient to farm GSL haha
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Their main focus has always been PL.
It's basically what they get paid for.
I feel like these guys are going to try hard in GSL though, they aren't making as much money as they were in brood war and the GSL prize pool is a chance at some big money.
especially the poorer teams.
GSL got started earlier, with all the sponsors looking to get in on SC2 jumping to them.
Give Proleague some time and it will also become huge. Right now I feel like they need better production value and a dedicated, on-site team for English casts like GSL.
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Their main focus has always been PL.
It's basically what they get paid for.
I feel like these guys are going to try hard in GSL though, they aren't making as much money as they were in brood war and the GSL prize pool is a chance at some big money.
especially the poorer teams.
GSL is ridiculously top heavy though, it's not very efficient to farm GSL haha
well they will go for the gold, that's what I mean. they want to win.
especially if the OSL is being flaky, It's the only individual league they will get to play in.
On January 06 2013 16:52 Dodgin wrote: you never know if khaldor is gonna pop into the thread and smack us armchair casters down, it's scary.
good thing he's legitimately good now so there's no reason to criticize.
Was he bad before?
It took a while for him and Wolf to start working really well together imo, they are pretty awesome now days tho.
Khaldor and Wolf really set the gold standard for top-notch casting IMO. Sure, there are other big-name, big-hype casting combos, but Khaldor and Wolf do their homework to a ridiculous level, and are on point every night for hours at a time, all the time. They know metagame, they know player backstories, current behind-the-scene info, and have great game awareness and casting mojo.
They completely set the standard for how to do the job.
On January 06 2013 16:52 Dodgin wrote: you never know if khaldor is gonna pop into the thread and smack us armchair casters down, it's scary.
good thing he's legitimately good now so there's no reason to criticize.
Was he bad before?
It took a while for him and Wolf to start working really well together imo, they are pretty awesome now days tho.
Khaldor and Wolf really set the gold standard for top-notch casting IMO. Sure, there are other big-name, big-hype casting combos, but Khaldor and Wolf do their homework to a ridiculous level, and are on point every night for hours at a time, all the time. They know metagame, they know player backstories, current behind-the-scene info, and have great game awareness and casting mojo.
They completely set the standard for how to do the job.
On January 06 2013 17:01 tuho12345 wrote: damn Fantasy is so good with Ghost sniping, glad to have him on my team lol. Anyone picked Taeja over Fantasy or Flash was a bigggg mistake.
I made a big mistake LOL. I almost picked fanta too -_-
On January 06 2013 16:55 opterown wrote: i keep wondering whether these players are legitimately good, when rain is clearly the best player in SPL but failed in blizzard cup, and fanta is doing well but looked horrid in code A against roro. strange, wonder if they try for GOM leagues at all
Their main focus has always been PL.
It's basically what they get paid for.
I feel like these guys are going to try hard in GSL though, they aren't making as much money as they were in brood war and the GSL prize pool is a chance at some big money.
especially the poorer teams.
GSL is ridiculously top heavy though, it's not very efficient to farm GSL haha
well they will go for the gold, that's what I mean. they want to win.
especially if the OSL is being flaky, It's the only individual league they will get to play in.
Of course, don't get me wrong, in time, these Kespa players will put more effort into GOM tournaments.
On January 06 2013 17:01 tuho12345 wrote: damn Fantasy is so good with Ghost sniping, glad to have him on my team lol. Anyone picked Taeja over Fantasy or Flash was a bigggg mistake.
On January 06 2013 17:02 mrbamboo wrote: Man. such a sad day for me. I have Revival Taeja and Trap. And they all lost Flash and Fantasy too strong, and also too expensive in FPL ~_~.
On January 06 2013 17:02 mrbamboo wrote: Man. such a sad day for me. I have Revival Taeja and Trap. And they all lost Flash and Fantasy too strong, and also too expensive in FPL ~_~.
Isn't Fantasy the same value as Taeja?
Yep they were the same value, but of course anyone smart would know Fantasy was the right choice
On January 06 2013 17:02 mrbamboo wrote: Man. such a sad day for me. I have Revival Taeja and Trap. And they all lost Flash and Fantasy too strong, and also too expensive in FPL ~_~.
On January 06 2013 16:52 Dodgin wrote: you never know if khaldor is gonna pop into the thread and smack us armchair casters down, it's scary.
good thing he's legitimately good now so there's no reason to criticize.
Was he bad before?
It took a while for him and Wolf to start working really well together imo, they are pretty awesome now days tho.
Khaldor and Wolf really set the gold standard for top-notch casting IMO. Sure, there are other big-name, big-hype casting combos, but Khaldor and Wolf do their homework to a ridiculous level, and are on point every night for hours at a time, all the time. They know metagame, they know player backstories, current behind-the-scene info, and have great game awareness and casting mojo.
They completely set the standard for how to do the job.
I used to hate wolf and khaldor's casting with a passion but now I really like it, they do know their shit.
On January 06 2013 17:09 Mahavishnu wrote: why are these casters?
Probably a typo meant to ask "why are these [guys] casters?", but I like to think that this was intentional, questioning the existential value of these casters and the very nature of what it means to cast...
On January 06 2013 17:09 Mahavishnu wrote: why are these casters?
Probably a typo meant to ask "why are these [guys] casters?", but I like to think that this was intentional, questioning the existential value of these casters and the very nature of what it means to cast...
question. i know its off topic but the way boxer was involved with SC2 pro play from the start
im curious did boxer retire from BW for like 1-2 years then came back for SC2 or was he actually playing BW nonstop till he switched? I coulda swore i thought he retired in like 2009 my memory isnt good
On January 06 2013 17:09 Mahavishnu wrote: why are these casters?
Probably a typo meant to ask "why are these [guys] casters?", but I like to think that this was intentional, questioning the existential value of these casters and the very nature of what it means to cast...
Deep.
That is some Becket-esque Waiting for Godot level stuff right there.
On January 06 2013 17:09 Mahavishnu wrote: why are these casters?
Probably a typo meant to ask "why are these [guys] casters?", but I like to think that this was intentional, questioning the existential value of these casters and the very nature of what it means to cast...
On January 06 2013 17:18 bankobauss wrote: question. i know its off topic but the way boxer was involved with SC2 pro play from the start
im curious did boxer retire from BW for like 1-2 years then came back for SC2 or was he actually playing BW nonstop till he switched? I coulda swore i thought he retired in like 2009 my memory isnt good
I think he played BW the whole time, but he definitely went through times where he wasn't really mentioned anymore. Also, he didn't qualify for quite a few things in his later days of BW as well.
On January 06 2013 17:18 bankobauss wrote: question. i know its off topic but the way boxer was involved with SC2 pro play from the start
im curious did boxer retire from BW for like 1-2 years then came back for SC2 or was he actually playing BW nonstop till he switched? I coulda swore i thought he retired in like 2009 my memory isnt good
That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
Oh Dear, I am sorry I enjoyed Fanta crushing you. You were so amazing for my FPL last season but this round I just couldn't afford you. Please forgive me.
Fantasy has some pretty nice Ghost control. Those last two games, the HTs didn't really have a huge effect on the game because Fantasy was able to engage them near perfectly each time.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
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On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
i dont think he tried a 2 base colossi all-in,just a fake colossi into ht build with double upgrades and late 3rd: i believe its Creator PvT`s build,but im not sure if its the same
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
then why did he go for that fast colossus? >"< it was like 1 gate, 1 robo and robo bay
On January 06 2013 17:26 Wintex wrote: Flash should learn to use Ghosts like Fantasy.
Seriously quit harping on that. Flash won his games, if he lost then you can bitch about him not using X unit.
It's the reason for many of his losses, and if he is matched up vs PartinG or someone of his caliber (HerO really blew it) the outcome just won't be the same. Fantasy is playing beautifully. It'll be great to see Flash do it too, 'cause I'm a fan.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
Super common but I kinda hope this meta thing goes away, it's pretty expensive to fake colo and then tech into storm, leaves P vulnerable for so long and now it's getting predictable.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
Well, you need at least 4 HTs with storm (preferably 6) before you try to switch back. But I guess he had to try because of the number of ghosts that were already on the field. His 3rd was just too late.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
then why did he go for that fast colossus? >"< it was like 1 gate, 1 robo and robo bay
wasn't it like expand then 2 more gates + robo at the same time?
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
Well, you need at least 4 HTs with storm (preferably 6) before you try to switch back. But I guess he had to try because of the number of ghosts that were already on the field. His 3rd was just too late.
Yeah way too late. He didn't have enough gas to get a few ht's as he was getting colossus again, so totally splashless for a long time..
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
then why did he go for that fast colossus? >"< it was like 1 gate, 1 robo and robo bay
That part is a standard 1 collosus to force vikings and then switching into templar. That part actually worked fine and he managed to even out the game with the battle despite being down a base for quite awhile. The lack of any real aoe in that final battle (and having a bad angle) killed him for that last fight whereas if he still had either stayed on templar or at least gotten enough to protect himself he might not have died right there.
On January 06 2013 17:26 Adreme wrote: That was very weird by Dear. He seemed to decide after doing the collosus fake and going templar to go back to collosus with 0 templars so he got hit without any real aoe except 1 collosus that died.
no he probably went for 2 bases colossi timing but Fantasy pressured him at the perfect time and killed all the sentries so all-in fail into losing game.
It was never a 2 base collosus timing. He made one and then transitioned out of it. He didnt even bother getting range when he got the one despite having the gas to do so. He got storm for the templars then after that battle that went pretty well for him he switched back to collosus but got hit before he had enough to really do anything and with his army in a terrible spot.
then why did he go for that fast colossus? >"< it was like 1 gate, 1 robo and robo bay
That part is a standard 1 collosus to force vikings and then switching into templar. That part actually worked fine and he managed to even out the game with the battle despite being down a base for quite awhile. The lack of any real aoe in that final battle (and having a bad angle) killed him for that last fight whereas if he still had either stayed on templar or at least gotten enough to protect himself he might not have died right there.
Actually, Fantasy made a great play at the end of that battle. While retreating with his army, he saw that some HT were in front. He sent about 5 marauders to snipe 2 and forced 2 storms.
these tosses losing like this is killing me. cant wait to see parting play and win some games cuz he actually uses fricken collossi. this terran domination is actually making me wish to see some lazers, sure the unit is terrible to watch, but then this stompfest is what you see without it
Yeah Fantasy did a great job today but so does Flash...to bad we didn't get to see Stats,Wooki,Action,Rain in action. Oh well there's always next time i guess.
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
I honestly wouldn't judge the popularity of the proleague based on single stream done in English cast. The majority of old-school PL fans, or really just any of the many who loved PL in the BW era, prefer Korean commentary. I personally watch using the OGN HD Stream in my VLC, and I know many other PL fans who do this. Additionally, the youtube stream is a popular destination. You're also failing to see that the PL is difficult league to follow via a live stream. It happens four days a week, and fans usually watch only on night their particular teams are playing. KT and SKT fanboys will flood streams all the time because there are so many of them, but lesser followed clubs like STX and Woongjin generally see lower stream numbers; however, the popularity of the PL as a whole is very large in the foreign community. What I am very concerned about is the lack of people in the seats. Again, this could be because PL is happening four days a week again now, and has a very very long season, but I am beginning to worry if Koreans will truly appreciate an SC2 Proleague. We can only hope.
On January 07 2013 05:29 opterown wrote: the 20k+ was obviously due to the fact it was opening day and EG-TL were playing.
It could also have something to do with the notion that promotion on a big twitter account and 2 huge Youtube channels contributes significantly to audience numbers. During the time the 5 hour promo was running on my main channel it had 50,000 unique views, the Twitter account had 140,000 followers and the video on the SC2 channel ended up with about 13,000 views. These are things one has to take into account and also why casters with a higher-profile tend to get picked for tournaments.
Flat out ignoring the fact that high-profile casters and their promotion = more views is just silly.
Day 2 also had extremely strong numbers despite EGTL not playing. Those numbers have not been replicated since. There is no question that Proleague numbers are not as strong as the first two broadcasts, with a drop of anywhere between about 33-75% in audience depending on who is playing in comparison. As to what you attribute that to well that's up to you, but I maintain that putting inexperienced casters on an important tournament especially when one of them cannot enunciate correctly in the language he is expected to speak, is detrimental to that tournaments potential growth. That of course, was KeSPAs decision.
On the flipside, there's been a clear improvement in visual fidelity and the increased framerate helps (though it seems to be running at something like 40 rather than 60). GOM needs to step it up in comparison.
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
As I said before in this very thread, there is a conflict of interest here TB and I already laid out the ground work in the EG-TL production thread, which was closed. You should just drop it.
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
I could have sworn the Flash all-kill hit 20k concurrent viewers at one point :O
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
I could have sworn the Flash all-kill hit 20k concurrent viewers at one point :O
Wow so amazing to be able to see vods for free, and in decent quality! =D Does not matter if it's korean casting, it's even better. I will finally get to see all those amazing terrans.
Thank you Last and Pantaji for my FPL points!! (= Fantasy is soooo goood, was the number 1 of the world at the end of BW and is a high level terran at sc2.
On January 06 2013 16:06 Zenbrez wrote: 11k viewers, interesting
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
I love being misquoted.
First week we had 20k, that hasn't been beaten since by anything, including last night which topped out at around 18k for a Flash all-kill of EGTL during the first night of the second round, likely the most high profile event you're going to see in Proleague for a while. During Round 1 there was anything between 5k and 10k for the vast majority of matches, higher if EG/TL was playing, but never surpassing the first week.
The drop is clear to see if you aren't a dumbass and selectively picking your numbers rather than looking at the whole picture.
As I said before in this very thread, there is a conflict of interest here TB and I already laid out the ground work in the EG-TL production thread, which was closed. You should just drop it.
What conflict of interest is that exactly?
Yeah, 75% drop from first week. -----TB
Also can I just say? T8 vs CJ current viewers 3 games in, - 4742. Just imagine that if I were a petulant man I would be dancing around with a big "you were saying?" sign.
But I'm not, I just like contributing to discussions from a position of knowing a few things.
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