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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1601
On January 06 2013 21:04 LeafMeAlone wrote:
pretty crazy how much pressure a toss can put on off an expand build, especially when terran did a sorta pressure expand build :/


Protoss have better units early game, if you don't build a bunker and the Protoss knows this you will lose or take a lot of damage.
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1602
On January 06 2013 21:02 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:02 n0ise wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 dainbramage wrote:
Damn, flash nearly had an absolute perfect timing there.

Well, he did have absolute perfect timing, but didn't quite win


People weren't saying Flash was impossibly behind for no reason.

Flash literally hit the absolute perfect timing following that early game debacle and it STILL wasn't enough. Flash micro'd his absolute heart out and it was just wasn't enough to make up for that deficit.

Moral of the story? Make that bunker.


he was stimming in force-fields for 30 seconds, he should've won by a landslide if he engaged properly

He can't engage "properly" with the forcefields, which is why.


my point was - if you're super far ahead now but barely even in 30 seconds, you don't just ram all your supply into a spot that is easily force-fieldable
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1603
Flash 0, Cloud Kingdom 4.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 12:07:25
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1604
On January 06 2013 21:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:04 Scarecrow wrote:
GOM painfully laggy and unwatchable... in Korea...


In germany it works smooth as silk

Not really. Have to watch SQ now. Never had to do that before. And even SQ skips occasionally.
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Darkshark
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany27 Posts
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1605
Bosstoss back in buisness. What a exciting Group, never thought Yoda would do that well.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5594 Posts
January 06 2013 12:06 GMT
#1606
On January 06 2013 21:02 blade55555 wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:02 Elroi wrote:
aaand MC got the miracle.. No come backs in sc2 unfortunately.


You can make a comeback but flash was way way way behind. Like yeah... 17 workers that early in the game is really bad lol.

Sure you can, but it is no way close to the way terran could make comebacks in BW if they were much better then their opponents. Flash has been complaining about this in interviews.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
LeafMeAlone
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States301 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1607
On January 06 2013 21:05 Adreme wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:04 LighT. wrote:
With that loss Flash's chance of Code S seed is pretty much looking bleak


Oh god, dominating at team league but losing at the big tournament... Flash is turning into Bisu before my very eyes and now im depressed.


Pretty sure Bisu lost in less disappointing fashions
~_~
Backlash
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia61 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1608
just tuned in. was following the results on my mobile ;(

shattered i missed them. tempted to purchase just for JD vs Flash VOD
(MT) Esc- prOxi. || JulyZerg - "I pressed the right button like I was dying"
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1609
Flash should have tried to push on 2 fronts to screw MC's defense, not sure if it would have worked tho.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1610
On January 06 2013 21:05 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:04 LighT. wrote:
With that loss Flash's chance of Code S seed is pretty much looking bleak


Oh god, dominating at team league but losing at the big tournament... Flash is turning into Bisu before my very eyes and now im depressed.

Seriously...feel like GSL to Flash is what OSL is to Bisu.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1611
I'm a Flash fanboy. I've lived my whole life watching Flash play greedy, lose when punished and win when not.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1612
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1613
Name of the song? "Give me love" or something?
Chicken gank op
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1614
On January 06 2013 21:06 Poopi wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:00 Poopi wrote:
Shit I should have seen that it was cloud kingdom, I would not have liquidbetted on Flash vP if I knew it was this map -;-.
Not even Flash can win on this t;t.

Map had nothing to do with him losing 17 SCVs to simple Stalker pressure.

On January 06 2013 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?


He still can, MC has no AoE and gateway units are trash

Yeah, so trash he held a SCV pull and 8 Medivacs without any AoE.

Did not see the beginning of the game. These cloud kingdom ramps are still incredibly difficult to attack in. Every move was done for a reason, Flash's initial greedyness included.


Well it came down to flash not making a bunker and losing 17 scv's to some stalkers, he lost probably 10 scv's around there before MC's warpgate even finished. This was while MC was taking his expansion and doing all that normal stuff.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1615
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?

He can. If he beats YoDa and YongHwa and Jaedong also beats YoDa.
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1616
On January 06 2013 21:04 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
It is painful to watch, the early game. Where The stalker just shoot shit at Marine and marine can only wait to get killed...


well he could have just retreated too his ramp, decision fail there, resulting that he loses more that he needed to.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1617
Flash stop throwing games away! Play standard for once!
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1618
On January 06 2013 21:06 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:00 Poopi wrote:
Shit I should have seen that it was cloud kingdom, I would not have liquidbetted on Flash vP if I knew it was this map -;-.
Not even Flash can win on this t;t.

Map had nothing to do with him losing 17 SCVs to simple Stalker pressure.

On January 06 2013 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?


He still can, MC has no AoE and gateway units are trash

Yeah, so trash he held a SCV pull and 8 Medivacs without any AoE.

Did not see the beginning of the game. These cloud kingdom ramps are still incredibly difficult to attack in. Every move was done for a reason, Flash's initial greedyness included.

No, skipping the Bunker was just stupid.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
January 06 2013 12:07 GMT
#1619
well, if the lag ain't fix for tomorrow matches, I'm gonna ask for a refund...
first time I pay for GSL and it's really disappointing
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1620
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


Part of his macro being so good is that he finds ways to get ahead. Of course when he loses its normally because it gets punished or attacked before it can kick in like in both games today that he lost.
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