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speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1641
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.

Yeah, it really does, my friend. Because with MC this was the best case scenario, just "some pressure". The chances are really high that he just 1bases you straight away. So no bunker is ALWAYS bad vs someone like MC.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1642
1st Jaedong
2nd Flash
3rd Yoda

You will see.
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1643
On January 06 2013 21:07 Elite_ wrote:
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On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?

He can. If he beats YoDa and YongHwa and Jaedong also beats YoDa.

Should have hit edit but oh well... This will at least confirm his spot in the wildcard/3rd place group, giving him a second chance. If MC beats YongHwa and Vampire along with Flash beating YoDa and YongHwa and Jaedong beating YoDa, he's in 3rd place.
MundisV
Profile Joined July 2012
Lithuania8 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1644
GOMstreamer doesn't work anymore?

silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1645
I feel bad for Flash but he still has a chance.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1646
Go YoDa! Still best player on LGIM!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1647
On January 06 2013 21:10 Baroninthetree wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:04 freetgy wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 decado90 wrote:
Haha, MC cheesy as all hell as always.


lol, if someone was (eco) cheesy in this game it was Flash...


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Wat ?
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lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1648
On January 06 2013 21:08 Vindicare605 wrote:
So if YoDa and MC advance what does this do to the Elephant argument? Anything?



I think it pretty much shows that it's not metter ot Kespa elephants vs ESF, it's just different game the better adapting pro's will pwn all others )
Power is nothing without control
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1649
On January 06 2013 21:06 Elroi wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:02 blade55555 wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 Elroi wrote:
aaand MC got the miracle.. No come backs in sc2 unfortunately.


You can make a comeback but flash was way way way behind. Like yeah... 17 workers that early in the game is really bad lol.

Sure you can, but it is no way close to the way terran could make comebacks in BW if they were much better then their opponents. Flash has been complaining about this in interviews.


Then Flash should learn not to try to cut bunker from his builds. It was the ONLY way he would have gotten that behind in the early game.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1650
On January 06 2013 21:10 Poopi wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:07 blade55555 wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:06 Poopi wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:00 Poopi wrote:
Shit I should have seen that it was cloud kingdom, I would not have liquidbetted on Flash vP if I knew it was this map -;-.
Not even Flash can win on this t;t.

Map had nothing to do with him losing 17 SCVs to simple Stalker pressure.

On January 06 2013 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?


He still can, MC has no AoE and gateway units are trash

Yeah, so trash he held a SCV pull and 8 Medivacs without any AoE.

Did not see the beginning of the game. These cloud kingdom ramps are still incredibly difficult to attack in. Every move was done for a reason, Flash's initial greedyness included.


Well it came down to flash not making a bunker and losing 17 scv's to some stalkers, he lost probably 10 scv's around there before MC's warpgate even finished. This was while MC was taking his expansion and doing all that normal stuff.

Yeah but if he didn't make a bunker he felt he needed not to make one.
Anyways doesn't he always lose on cloud kingdom?
I guess GSL players will still do better in GSL because they don't waste all their practice time on proleague maps.
Disappointing to see the first SPL all-killer being 1-2 in Up&Down :/.

you need a bunker after cc first. or that can happen...
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1651
On January 06 2013 21:08 TheDwf wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:06 n0ise wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 Hiea wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 n0ise wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 dainbramage wrote:
Damn, flash nearly had an absolute perfect timing there.

Well, he did have absolute perfect timing, but didn't quite win


People weren't saying Flash was impossibly behind for no reason.

Flash literally hit the absolute perfect timing following that early game debacle and it STILL wasn't enough. Flash micro'd his absolute heart out and it was just wasn't enough to make up for that deficit.

Moral of the story? Make that bunker.


he was stimming in force-fields for 30 seconds, he should've won by a landslide if he engaged properly

He can't engage "properly" with the forcefields, which is why.


my point was - if you're super far ahead now but barely even in 30 seconds, you don't just ram all your supply into a spot that is easily force-fieldable

So what was he supposed to do? Take the way through the third to give MC 15 more seconds just to get Forcefielded at the natural's choke anyway?


For starters yes, second use some of the medivacs.

Better take your chances to out-multi-task him rather than hope he forgets force-field and defloss if he doesn't
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1652
On January 06 2013 21:10 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:04 freetgy wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 decado90 wrote:
Haha, MC cheesy as all hell as always.


lol, if someone was (eco) cheesy in this game it was Flash...


Upxfcr

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dude are you ok?
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1653
On January 06 2013 21:10 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:04 freetgy wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 decado90 wrote:
Haha, MC cheesy as all hell as always.


lol, if someone was (eco) cheesy in this game it was Flash...


Upxfcr

Cassźghuj czjprrwgtfdtb 威尼斯tvzg机械工程bcix那fvk

omg my mth years baby did this
She must love MC's play
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1654
Jaedong for the love of God please win.
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1655
omg gom have their own stream player on their website now??
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 12:11:55
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1656
On January 06 2013 21:08 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.


zealot 2 stalkers before nexus.


lol, yes it does.


That's playing extremely safe. One bunker could have prevented this from being so effective. This is just a really safe way to open and punish an overly greedy build imo.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1657
I STILL BELIEVE IN FLASH.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1658
Go Jaedong!!!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1659
On January 06 2013 21:04 Zenbrez wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:02 samurai80 wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:57 n0ise wrote:
mc is super-dead

I loled.


Because everyone predicts correctly 100% of the time?

It was not a prediction... The game was almost over when he said that.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12472 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 12:12:32
January 06 2013 12:11 GMT
#1660
On January 06 2013 21:07 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?

He can. If he beats YoDa and YongHwa and Jaedong also beats YoDa.


MC beat Jaedong and Flash so he also needs to not get 3 wins, or either Vampire or Yoda needs to also have 3 wins
No will to live, no wish to die
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