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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1621
On January 06 2013 21:07 LeafMeAlone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:05 Adreme wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:04 LighT. wrote:
With that loss Flash's chance of Code S seed is pretty much looking bleak


Oh god, dominating at team league but losing at the big tournament... Flash is turning into Bisu before my very eyes and now im depressed.


Pretty sure Bisu lost in less disappointing fashions

AKA Hydra busts.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1622
Jaedong/Yoda game is critical.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1623
On January 06 2013 21:05 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:04 Dodgin wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:03 Prince_Stranger wrote:
What will be if 2-3 places have equal points?


They will play the group over again without Yoda, probably.

So, all the players of the group will play again or only those who has equal points?


I thought you were asking what if everyone went 2-3 except for Yoda who went 5-0.

They will do tiebreakers if It's only 3 of them for example.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1624
So if YoDa and MC advance what does this do to the Elephant argument? Anything?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1625
On January 06 2013 21:04 LeafMeAlone wrote:
pretty crazy how much pressure a toss can put on off an expand build, especially when terran did a sorta pressure expand build :/


And all that 'pressure' is useless if you have 1 bunker up.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1626
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.


zealot 2 stalkers before nexus.


lol, yes it does.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1627
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.

Yes, it does.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1628
On January 06 2013 21:06 n0ise wrote:
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On January 06 2013 21:02 Hiea wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 n0ise wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 dainbramage wrote:
Damn, flash nearly had an absolute perfect timing there.

Well, he did have absolute perfect timing, but didn't quite win


People weren't saying Flash was impossibly behind for no reason.

Flash literally hit the absolute perfect timing following that early game debacle and it STILL wasn't enough. Flash micro'd his absolute heart out and it was just wasn't enough to make up for that deficit.

Moral of the story? Make that bunker.


he was stimming in force-fields for 30 seconds, he should've won by a landslide if he engaged properly

He can't engage "properly" with the forcefields, which is why.


my point was - if you're super far ahead now but barely even in 30 seconds, you don't just ram all your supply into a spot that is easily force-fieldable

So what was he supposed to do? Take the way through the third to give MC 15 more seconds just to get Forcefielded at the natural's choke anyway?
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 06 2013 12:08 GMT
#1629
joke break
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#1630
On January 06 2013 21:07 LeafMeAlone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:05 Adreme wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:04 LighT. wrote:
With that loss Flash's chance of Code S seed is pretty much looking bleak


Oh god, dominating at team league but losing at the big tournament... Flash is turning into Bisu before my very eyes and now im depressed.


Pretty sure Bisu lost in less disappointing fashions


Roro would disagree about that.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#1631
On January 06 2013 21:04 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
It is painful to watch, the early game. Where The stalker just shoot shit at Marine and marine can only wait to get killed...

Oh really ? That looked so pleasant to me
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#1632
On January 06 2013 21:08 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.


zealot 2 stalkers before nexus.


lol, yes it does.


every P will chrono-boost gateway units when they see you went CC first

every
single
protoss
ever

If anything, what MC did was the -absolute- standard
ElBlanco
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia140 Posts
January 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#1633
On January 06 2013 21:06 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:00 Poopi wrote:
Shit I should have seen that it was cloud kingdom, I would not have liquidbetted on Flash vP if I knew it was this map -;-.
Not even Flash can win on this t;t.

Map had nothing to do with him losing 17 SCVs to simple Stalker pressure.

On January 06 2013 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?


He still can, MC has no AoE and gateway units are trash

Yeah, so trash he held a SCV pull and 8 Medivacs without any AoE.

Did not see the beginning of the game. These cloud kingdom ramps are still incredibly difficult to attack in. Every move was done for a reason, Flash's initial greedyness included.


If you literally didn't see what happened then what exactly are you complaining about? Flash only had to build a bunker and he had that game won (MC would have been super late on his natural and Flash is playing much better PvT right now). Flash got greedy when it wasn't necessary and he got punished. The map had nothing to do with it (and there's nothing wrong with the map anyway).
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
January 06 2013 12:09 GMT
#1634
Jaedoooooooooooooooooooong!!!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1635
On January 06 2013 21:07 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:06 Poopi wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:00 Poopi wrote:
Shit I should have seen that it was cloud kingdom, I would not have liquidbetted on Flash vP if I knew it was this map -;-.
Not even Flash can win on this t;t.

Map had nothing to do with him losing 17 SCVs to simple Stalker pressure.

On January 06 2013 21:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 06 2013 20:59 WhiteSatin wrote:
question: does it mean that flash can't make it anymore ?


He still can, MC has no AoE and gateway units are trash

Yeah, so trash he held a SCV pull and 8 Medivacs without any AoE.

Did not see the beginning of the game. These cloud kingdom ramps are still incredibly difficult to attack in. Every move was done for a reason, Flash's initial greedyness included.


Well it came down to flash not making a bunker and losing 17 scv's to some stalkers, he lost probably 10 scv's around there before MC's warpgate even finished. This was while MC was taking his expansion and doing all that normal stuff.

Yeah but if he didn't make a bunker he felt he needed not to make one.
Anyways doesn't he always lose on cloud kingdom?
I guess GSL players will still do better in GSL because they don't waste all their practice time on proleague maps.
Disappointing to see the first SPL all-killer being 1-2 in Up&Down :/.
WriterMaru
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1636
On January 06 2013 21:05 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:03 Prince_Stranger wrote:
What will be if 2-3 places have equal points?


They use h2h. If it is 3 way tie with a>b>c>a, then we have tiebreakers.

Could also turn into the crazy 5way tie, but only if YoDa goes 5-0 and everyone else is 2-3, and beat/lost to the correct people, it almost happened last time in SuperNova's group, but the final match went the other way.
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 12:10:55
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1637
On January 06 2013 21:04 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
It is painful to watch, the early game. Where The stalker just shoot shit at Marine and marine can only wait to get killed...


No it's painful to watch that Flash wen't for an eco cheese build and everybody tells my how protoss is op and MC is a cheeser cuz they are butthurt that flash lost another Bo1 to stupid stuff.

Sorry, but that's the way it is. Btw. I am a terran and I root for flash, but still, build a bunker. It literally costs 25 minerals total and MC can run around with his stalkers all he wants, they won't do anything.
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
Addict
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium164 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1638
On January 06 2013 21:04 LeafMeAlone wrote:
pretty crazy how much pressure a toss can put on off an expand build, especially when terran did a sorta pressure expand build :/


You have no understanding how far Flash was behind..
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1639
On January 06 2013 21:08 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:07 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On January 06 2013 21:06 speknek wrote:
Shitty game. Dunno why Flash skips the bunker, while there's literally nobody that macro's better than him anyway, AND he's playing against one of the most notorious cheesers (yeah, yeah, I know this wasn't real cheese, but the point still stands).


No, the point doesn't still stand.


zealot 2 stalkers before nexus.


lol, yes it does.


That isn't cheesy, you could call that ultra safe to stop proxy 2 raxes, you could call that keeping the Terran honest. Just because you don't throw down the fastest Nexus possible doesn't mean you are cheesing.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
January 06 2013 12:10 GMT
#1640
On January 06 2013 21:04 freetgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 21:01 decado90 wrote:
Haha, MC cheesy as all hell as always.


lol, if someone was (eco) cheesy in this game it was Flash...


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