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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 25 2012 09:14 GMT
#161
On December 25 2012 18:12 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:08 Asha` wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:04 rj rl wrote:
Here you go, just add some kespa-made maps, some good kespa-terrans and you have bw-style TvT in sc2! It even offers some references to wraith\bc late game mech.


It's exactly the same as hundreds of TvT's that have been played since 2011.

Bogus committing to an air battle right before his 3/3 upgrades finish, but it doesn't really matter.

hundreds of TvT's ended up in a 200\200 battle, not in the war of attrition, just look at the minimap here - glorious siege lines, the game of symmetries.


these kinds of games were really common in late 2011 but then sort of faded away as mech vs mech became less and less common.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 25 2012 09:15 GMT
#162
On December 25 2012 18:09 glzElectromaster wrote:
Pretty fun game. But my FPL is going to shit this week. At least Taeja won his match and the ace! lol...


Mine went to shit a long time ago when I picked Jaedong for my anti-team and then when he started to win more had to switch him for another high rated zerg that I thought would underperform, Effort, who keeps winning as well D:

The only good decisions I made were picking Flash and CJ Entus, and also soO for relatively cheap after seeing him beat MKP. The rest of my picks were fucking terrible.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 25 2012 09:16 GMT
#163
On December 25 2012 18:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:12 rj rl wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:08 Asha` wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:04 rj rl wrote:
Here you go, just add some kespa-made maps, some good kespa-terrans and you have bw-style TvT in sc2! It even offers some references to wraith\bc late game mech.


It's exactly the same as hundreds of TvT's that have been played since 2011.

Bogus committing to an air battle right before his 3/3 upgrades finish, but it doesn't really matter.

hundreds of TvT's ended up in a 200\200 battle, not in the war of attrition, just look at the minimap here - glorious siege lines, the game of symmetries.


these kinds of games were really common in late 2011 but then sort of faded away as mech vs mech became less and less common.


MKP's bio style during the beginning of 2012 kinda teared this style apart so people reverted back to the Marine-Tank more and more.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
December 25 2012 09:16 GMT
#164
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
December 25 2012 09:17 GMT
#165
Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him?
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
December 25 2012 09:17 GMT
#166
"Fairly balanced at 2-2", said as if that counts. -__-
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 25 2012 09:17 GMT
#167
On December 25 2012 18:16 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:14 Dodgin wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:12 rj rl wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:08 Asha` wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:04 rj rl wrote:
Here you go, just add some kespa-made maps, some good kespa-terrans and you have bw-style TvT in sc2! It even offers some references to wraith\bc late game mech.


It's exactly the same as hundreds of TvT's that have been played since 2011.

Bogus committing to an air battle right before his 3/3 upgrades finish, but it doesn't really matter.

hundreds of TvT's ended up in a 200\200 battle, not in the war of attrition, just look at the minimap here - glorious siege lines, the game of symmetries.


these kinds of games were really common in late 2011 but then sort of faded away as mech vs mech became less and less common.


MKP's bio style during the beginning of 2012 kinda teared this style apart so people reverted back to the Marine-Tank more and more.


A lot of the maps also got bigger with less chokes so this type of play wasn't as favored.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#168
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
December 25 2012 09:20 GMT
#169
damn, dat fashion
byah!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 25 2012 09:20 GMT
#170
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August


It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 25 2012 09:21 GMT
#171
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote:
Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him?

if Light can keep his dominance from his BW TvZ, should be easy win for him
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 25 2012 09:21 GMT
#172
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August


It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame.


It's the map pool man. So many open places and huge chokes. Sigh I miss the glory days of GomTvT
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
December 25 2012 09:22 GMT
#173
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August

i remember this one, but it shines bright because of extreme rareness, that was my point. We need more of those.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 09:23:34
December 25 2012 09:22 GMT
#174
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August


It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame.


And by mentioning that game makes me realize that Daybreak has been in the map pool for a very very very long time... (16 months already).
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 25 2012 09:22 GMT
#175
On December 25 2012 18:21 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote:
Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him?

if Light can keep his dominance from his BW TvZ, should be easy win for him


LighT is a freaking proleague monster and a beast in general. I hope his skills transferred over well this season. He didn't look too bad during the Frankenleague, but everyone was pretty bad at the time.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
December 25 2012 09:22 GMT
#176
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote:
Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him?

His BW TvZ was one of the best there was. But BW and SC2 are different games. I can only wish he is as good at SC2 TvZ as he was in BW.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 25 2012 09:23 GMT
#177
On December 25 2012 18:22 sashkata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote:
Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him?

His BW TvZ was one of the best there was. But BW and SC2 are different games. I can only wish he is as good at SC2 TvZ as he was in BW.


#ibelieve.

Come on light!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 09:24:56
December 25 2012 09:23 GMT
#178
On December 25 2012 18:22 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August

i remember this one, but it shines bright because of extreme rareness, that was my point. We need more of those.


It's just really rare to get a TvT that fills the correct criteria for that kind of game. First there has to be no cheese or it has to stabilize, then they both have to not die until being stuck on 3 or even 4 bases is not enough economy to keep reproducing, then you need them to both be going mech and not bio.

the game we just saw was definitely one of the best positional mech vs mech games I've ever seen, which is to be expected since the level of play has risen so much since 2011. comparing it to those old games is kind of unfair.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
December 25 2012 09:24 GMT
#179
i would eat a sock to hear artosis cast these live proleague games
byah!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 25 2012 09:24 GMT
#180
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 18:19 vthree wrote:
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote:
Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by.


Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August


It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame.


I think the maps have a lot to do with it. Daybreak and CK probably are the best maps for mech. But maps like WW, Abysal are just really hard to do mech on. And even Antiga, Ohana, entombed has really large middle areas were you can get flanked very easily.
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