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pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
December 22 2012 22:13 GMT
#2041
On December 23 2012 07:12 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:10 Embir wrote:
I didn't watch much tournaments recently (too much ZvZ and ZvP for my taste) but I wanted to see HSC, hence my question:

"The hell happened with Korean's skills? It seems Europeans area really catching up."


Which of those Europeans don't play Zerg tho?


MC lost to Gruppy, Naama and Kas =)
If you can chill.. Chill!
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
December 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#2042
On December 23 2012 07:12 Swiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:11 butchji wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:09 balosan wrote:
Around 30k viewers for finals of HSC, isnt it like half of last one ? I guess there is so much of infestors in all matchups that ppl can watch.


casual SC2 watcher here: every time I tuned in they were sitting in a lounge talking random stuff -> turned off.

the typical casual sc2 watcher is registered and posting in an tl lr thread? i doubt that.


well I used to watch a lot.
balosan
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland232 Posts
December 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#2043
On December 23 2012 07:11 butchji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:09 balosan wrote:
Around 30k viewers for finals of HSC, isnt it like half of last one ? I guess there is so much of infestors in all matchups that ppl can watch.


casual SC2 watcher here: every time I tuned in they were sitting in a lounge talking random stuff -> turned off.


Yea, thats the case specially in last day, there is only one stream and not that many games to be played. Specially with some of the zvz's lasting 5 minutes.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
December 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#2044
On December 23 2012 07:11 mokumoku wrote:
"I'm agree" - dimaga


Dimage is the best caster of the tournament. Him and Kas together are like Tastosis - pure awesome!
mind mind mind mind mind mind
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
December 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#2045
On December 23 2012 07:05 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:02 govie wrote:
If zerg was really to strong, blizzard would have adressed the game. Point that most peeps dont make is that in progaming, it might be a bit imbalanced, but in bronze-plat, it maybe isnt. SO, in general, it could well be that everything is balanced. If blizzard would change zerg because of progaming level, it could effect zerg in bronze=plat to much.

Point is : Its hard to get a game balanced, that has more than 1 level.


ur comment doesnt make sense.
no1 gives a shit about what happens in bronze-masters, only progaming level matters.
if the game is balanced for the best, the others are just too bad to play.

Ironically, there are way more people playing (=customers) in the lower leagues than in the higher leagues. Making sure that those people have a pleasant experience is rather important.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 22:16:42
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2046
On December 23 2012 07:09 balosan wrote:
Around 30k viewers for finals of HSC, isnt it like half of last one ? I guess there is so much of infestors in all matchups that ppl can watch.


But last HSC was not that near christmas.. , many people are now busy , spend time with family etc.
And its ZvZ , so many ZvZ now :/
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Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2047
nice micro there
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2048
whoa no drones lost
byah!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2049
How in da hell did that happen?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2050
Symbol got back to back ro8 in GSL season 3 and 4, and just placed top 6 at IPL5 a couple weeks ago. I really don't understand the logic of people in these threads. Apparently if you don't win every tournament you are in a slump and aren't playing well. And as far koreans losing to europeans. Maybe europeans are working hard and their hard work is paying off? It baffles me to think that just because someone is a certain nationality they should never lose. This isn't brood war
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
December 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#2051
How the... What black magic does Snute use for his micro.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
December 22 2012 22:16 GMT
#2052
On December 23 2012 07:13 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:05 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:02 govie wrote:
If zerg was really to strong, blizzard would have adressed the game. Point that most peeps dont make is that in progaming, it might be a bit imbalanced, but in bronze-plat, it maybe isnt. SO, in general, it could well be that everything is balanced. If blizzard would change zerg because of progaming level, it could effect zerg in bronze=plat to much.

Point is : Its hard to get a game balanced, that has more than 1 level.


ur comment doesnt make sense.
no1 gives a shit about what happens in bronze-masters, only progaming level matters.
if the game is balanced for the best, the others are just too bad to play.


As i see it, the fanbase is a pyramid. Many bad players that like the game and a few pro's. If u would imbalance the game to much for brons-plat so that progaming is 100% balanced, that big base could get alot smaller very fast.


And as a result, progaming would as well. I thought this question had been settled 10000 threads ago.
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
December 22 2012 22:16 GMT
#2053
Sunte's play looks flawless so far
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Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
December 22 2012 22:16 GMT
#2054
On December 23 2012 07:15 PhoenixVoid wrote:
How the... What black magic does Snute use for his micro.

The force.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 22 2012 22:17 GMT
#2055
On December 23 2012 07:15 Gojira621 wrote:
Symbol got back to back ro8 in GSL season 3 and 4, and just placed top 6 at IPL5 a couple weeks ago. I really don't understand the logic of people in these threads. Apparently if you don't win every tournament you are in a slump and aren't playing well. And as far koreans losing to europeans. Maybe europeans are working hard and their hard work is paying off? It baffles me to think that just because someone is a certain nationality they should never lose. This isn't brood war


Even with Broodwar, top Koreans like Silent_Control among others still lost to foreigners at times. Seriously man.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 22:17 GMT
#2056
On December 23 2012 07:11 SnakeDoctor wrote:
Geez, casting this whole tournament is atrocious. They constantly talk over each other, speak as if they were talking to the players or casters and not the viewers (oh no <instert name here>, dont do that) and are generally not accustomed to co casting.

What? These aren't professional casters, these are the players attending mostly that are casting, they are doing a really good job as well.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#2057
On December 23 2012 07:15 Gojira621 wrote:
Symbol got back to back ro8 in GSL season 3 and 4, and just placed top 6 at IPL5 a couple weeks ago. I really don't understand the logic of people in these threads. Apparently if you don't win every tournament you are in a slump and aren't playing well. And as far koreans losing to europeans. Maybe europeans are working hard and their hard work is paying off? It baffles me to think that just because someone is a certain nationality they should never lose. This isn't brood war

TL logic. Only top tier koreans are most recent gsl/ipl/mlg winner + Mvp
everyone else = slump
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#2058
On December 23 2012 07:16 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 07:13 govie wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:05 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 23 2012 07:02 govie wrote:
If zerg was really to strong, blizzard would have adressed the game. Point that most peeps dont make is that in progaming, it might be a bit imbalanced, but in bronze-plat, it maybe isnt. SO, in general, it could well be that everything is balanced. If blizzard would change zerg because of progaming level, it could effect zerg in bronze=plat to much.

Point is : Its hard to get a game balanced, that has more than 1 level.


ur comment doesnt make sense.
no1 gives a shit about what happens in bronze-masters, only progaming level matters.
if the game is balanced for the best, the others are just too bad to play.


As i see it, the fanbase is a pyramid. Many bad players that like the game and a few pro's. If u would imbalance the game to much for brons-plat so that progaming is 100% balanced, that big base could get alot smaller very fast.


And as a result, progaming would as well. I thought this question had been settled 10000 threads ago.


Balance doesn't even matter for popularity. Do you think League of Legends and Dota 2 are balanced? Those games have balance patches every week almost. It's all about how fun the game to watch/play is.
ZvT for example was so much more fun to watch when Zerg played Muta/bling and terrans went marine/tank. Was that perfectly balanced? Most people agreed it was Terran favored but it was a million times more fun to watch.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 22:19 GMT
#2059
On December 23 2012 07:15 Gojira621 wrote:
Symbol got back to back ro8 in GSL season 3 and 4, and just placed top 6 at IPL5 a couple weeks ago. I really don't understand the logic of people in these threads. Apparently if you don't win every tournament you are in a slump and aren't playing well. And as far koreans losing to europeans. Maybe europeans are working hard and their hard work is paying off? It baffles me to think that just because someone is a certain nationality they should never lose. This isn't brood war


I watch every GSL gama and was at IPL5, its not just about results. If you watch Symbol's play he is so inconsistent that he cannot be considered a top player. MKP is the same, constantly in ro16 but considered a joke in korea because he does stupid shit like roll over and die randomly. He was like that in 2011 as well, randomly dying to a lowered supply depot/forgetting to wall-off etc. Flashes of brilliance + streaks of horrible play doesn't make you a top player.

When symbol loses in GSL he loses hard
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Orval
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway236 Posts
December 22 2012 22:19 GMT
#2060
still baffled by 0 drones lost by that ling attack.
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