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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 22 2012 03:58 GMT
#281
On December 22 2012 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:55 bITt.mAN wrote:
Ok ok guys, let's talk about this: what are the most important things Kespa needs to value in a caster for their foreign fans?
I propose:

A. Familiarity with the Korean Pro Scene, players, history, teams. Needs to have actively followed the scene and know their shit for MINIMUM past 2 years, preferably past 3+. + Show Spoiler [Why] +
This cast is for foreign fans. If we as foreign fans are watching (and paying) for Kespa instead of ESF matches/players etc. its clearly because we care about the players more than strictly more perfect SC2 execution. Therefore we need a caster who understands that affection and relation foreign fans have for Kespa players, which means they understand the scene, meaning they've followed it.
For example right now SNM is telling Effort's retirement story. Fabulously done.


B. SC2 Knowledge, to capably understand the game. To be aware of possible and current strategies, and be able to expain 'who's in the lead'+ Show Spoiler [Why] +
This is the reason I even listen to English casts. I acknowledge I don't follow (or play at all) SC2, so I don't quite know what the current trends and advantages are, so I need someone to explain how the SC2 is flowing, and I can't get that from the Korean.


C. Casting Ability. Being good. There's so much to say, let me dig up one of my longass posts. Basically, I feel very strongly about this point, and have personal experience with it, sadly not enough to be able to swing some weight around.


A's irrelevant except to silly BW elitists


no?
Broodwar for life!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51456 Posts
December 22 2012 03:58 GMT
#282
On December 22 2012 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:55 bITt.mAN wrote:
Ok ok guys, let's talk about this: what are the most important things Kespa needs to value in a caster for their foreign fans?
I propose:

A. Familiarity with the Korean Pro Scene, players, history, teams. Needs to have actively followed the scene and know their shit for MINIMUM past 2 years, preferably past 3+. + Show Spoiler [Why] +
This cast is for foreign fans. If we as foreign fans are watching (and paying) for Kespa instead of ESF matches/players etc. its clearly because we care about the players more than strictly more perfect SC2 execution. Therefore we need a caster who understands that affection and relation foreign fans have for Kespa players, which means they understand the scene, meaning they've followed it.
For example right now SNM is telling Effort's retirement story. Fabulously done.


B. SC2 Knowledge, to capably understand the game. To be aware of possible and current strategies, and be able to expain 'who's in the lead'+ Show Spoiler [Why] +
This is the reason I even listen to English casts. I acknowledge I don't follow (or play at all) SC2, so I don't quite know what the current trends and advantages are, so I need someone to explain how the SC2 is flowing, and I can't get that from the Korean.


C. Casting Ability. Being good. There's so much to say, let me dig up one of my longass posts. Basically, I feel very strongly about this point, and have personal experience with it, sadly not enough to be able to swing some weight around.


A's irrelevant except to silly BW elitists


nothing silly about it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51456 Posts
December 22 2012 03:59 GMT
#283
On December 22 2012 12:58 bITt.mAN wrote:
Hooolooooooo Fantasy!?!?! That shot of him smiling is TOTALLY going on NaDa's Body!

Oh and it's Kerbal Space Program not Planetside 2 that has the throttling Chronos. .


you play kerbal?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
December 22 2012 03:59 GMT
#284
I hope this game becomes as epic as DRG vs effOrt on TDA.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 22 2012 03:59 GMT
#285
On December 22 2012 12:57 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:53 Cele wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:50 jnd wrote:
the twitch chat is more retarded than usual...

Just as you posted this I looked at it out of curiosity and saw this

"USA stopped Hitler as he was about to whipe out 90% of EU"

I don't even want to read up to found out why this topic was brought up in a pro league chat -.-


rofl, thats like the single most stupid comment i read ever.

You obviously haven't spent a lot of time in twitch chat or youtube comment section. Then again why would you...


hmh just snipealot 2. And thats pretty mannered and clever
Broodwar for life!
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
December 22 2012 03:59 GMT
#286
gg 2-2
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:00:57
December 22 2012 04:00 GMT
#287
fawk, da drones
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 22 2012 04:00 GMT
#288
Go s2!
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
December 22 2012 04:01 GMT
#289
On December 22 2012 12:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:55 bITt.mAN wrote:
Ok ok guys, let's talk about this: what are the most important things Kespa needs to value in a caster for their foreign fans?
I propose:

A. Familiarity with the Korean Pro Scene, players, history, teams. Needs to have actively followed the scene and know their shit for MINIMUM past 2 years, preferably past 3+. + Show Spoiler [Why] +
This cast is for foreign fans. If we as foreign fans are watching (and paying) for Kespa instead of ESF matches/players etc. its clearly because we care about the players more than strictly more perfect SC2 execution. Therefore we need a caster who understands that affection and relation foreign fans have for Kespa players, which means they understand the scene, meaning they've followed it.
For example right now SNM is telling Effort's retirement story. Fabulously done.


B. SC2 Knowledge, to capably understand the game. To be aware of possible and current strategies, and be able to expain 'who's in the lead'+ Show Spoiler [Why] +
This is the reason I even listen to English casts. I acknowledge I don't follow (or play at all) SC2, so I don't quite know what the current trends and advantages are, so I need someone to explain how the SC2 is flowing, and I can't get that from the Korean.


C. Casting Ability. Being good. There's so much to say, let me dig up one of my longass posts. Basically, I feel very strongly about this point, and have personal experience with it, sadly not enough to be able to swing some weight around.


A's irrelevant except to silly BW elitists


nothing silly about it.


Also nothing irrelevant about it to anyone.
Sachem
Profile Joined May 2011
United States116 Posts
December 22 2012 04:01 GMT
#290
TDA: not even once =p
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
December 22 2012 04:01 GMT
#291
I think effOrt got too overconfident in his position and droned at the wrong times. Doesn't help he delayed Ling speed as well.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51456 Posts
December 22 2012 04:01 GMT
#292
On December 22 2012 12:59 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 12:57 hifriend wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:53 Cele wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 22 2012 12:50 jnd wrote:
the twitch chat is more retarded than usual...

Just as you posted this I looked at it out of curiosity and saw this

"USA stopped Hitler as he was about to whipe out 90% of EU"

I don't even want to read up to found out why this topic was brought up in a pro league chat -.-


rofl, thats like the single most stupid comment i read ever.

You obviously haven't spent a lot of time in twitch chat or youtube comment section. Then again why would you...


hmh just snipealot 2. And thats pretty mannered and clever


sayle's chat man thats always fun.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RandomRice
Profile Joined January 2011
United States303 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#293
LOL transfuse on drones... only zvz on TDA =P
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#294
Transfuse on drones! gg effort!
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#295
oh my god. i was about to subscribe to Proleague then I heard this cast....who is this?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#296
I just got home, came here midgame here. This caster stumbles on his words too much
Refer to my post.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#297
lol @ metaphor and trying to save it.

was good though.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:03:46
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#298
GO S2!
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
December 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#299
OMG Effort
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
willfeeling
Profile Joined August 2012
China97 Posts
December 22 2012 04:03 GMT
#300
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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