On December 22 2012 06:24 iNvArey wrote: proleague might save sc2 or im just watching because of Jaedong...
The new maps are cool
Save SC2???
I was unaware it was even remotely unpopular.
People see it "dying" due to lower stream numbers or something. Proleague is first breathe of fresh air for a lot of starcraft 2 watchers in a long time.
On December 22 2012 06:24 iNvArey wrote: proleague might save sc2 or im just watching because of Jaedong...
The new maps are cool
Save SC2???
I was unaware it was even remotely unpopular.
People see it "dying" due to lower stream numbers or something. Proleague is first breathe of fresh air for a lot of starcraft 2 watchers in a long time.
I see I see. I mean. There's still a ton of leagues. Streams really dont amount to anything real. Proleague was so huge with BW. I just hope it maintains that level of awesome. A few new teams would be nice.
Is CJ vs SKTT1 really happening in about three and a half hours ? Why is there no LR for it while this one is already up ? Edit : seems like opterown just answered.
Nobody ever predicted an apocalypse... I'm so confused as to why radio stations and people like this keep going on about it. One of the Mayan calendars finished on this day, but there are other Mayan calendars that go on much more into the future. Settle down and focus on what's in front of you plz.
I'm actually just hoping Team 8 loses everything, and the money KeSPA is spending on the team gets transferred to more important things. Players go to better teams, and Team 8 is replaced by an already established and more talented team.
On December 22 2012 08:14 Shinta) wrote: Nobody ever predicted an apocalypse... I'm so confused as to why radio stations and people like this keep going on about it. One of the Mayan calendars finished on this day, but there are other Mayan calendars that go on much more into the future. Settle down and focus on what's in front of you plz.
I'm actually just hoping Team 8 loses everything, and the money KeSPA is spending on the team gets transferred to more important things. Players go to better teams, and Team 8 is replaced by an already established and more talented team.
Gogo STX!
I think you don't understand the tongue in cheek nature of my humor.
On December 22 2012 08:14 Shinta) wrote: Nobody ever predicted an apocalypse... I'm so confused as to why radio stations and people like this keep going on about it. One of the Mayan calendars finished on this day, but there are other Mayan calendars that go on much more into the future. Settle down and focus on what's in front of you plz.
I'm actually just hoping Team 8 loses everything, and the money KeSPA is spending on the team gets transferred to more important things. Players go to better teams, and Team 8 is replaced by an already established and more talented team.
Gogo STX!
Radio stations want viewers (listeners), I doubt most of those people actually believe anything.. or, I at least hope so.
Oh man, I find myself loving Arkanoid matches, especially TvT! So excited for this first match. My vote is on Last, I haven't seen much of his play, but dammit I'll be rooting for him.
On December 23 2012 15:22 Adersick wrote: Oh man, I find myself loving Arkanoid matches, especially TvT! So excited for this first match. My vote is on Last, I haven't seen much of his play, but dammit I'll be rooting for him.
No god damnit! You root for Baby and you be happy about it! I need Last to lose since he's on my anti and need team 8 to win because they are my team xD Damn you point cap T.T
There's no way I'm going to stay awake for all these matches; I'll be lucky if I make it to Bogus =(. Want to see Classic play, would like to know how he's doing in sc2.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
I'd love to see MVP, LG-IM, FXO amongst others in one League.
On December 23 2012 15:17 sinigang wrote: Oh man for some reason Proleague is so much more enjoyable to watch than the GSTL!!
Format.
End of story.
maps, fangirls, timeslot, korean stream (free HD), camera zoom, production in general
I agree with time slot (I think europeans would disagree) but SPL still has Ohana and TDA....
GSTL has better casters (Wolf and Khaldor are the most improved casters of 2012 imo) and for the most part, better players at this point in time.
I enjoy proleague more because its fun to play Fantasy. All-Kill format or not doesnt affect me because seeing an all-kill or reverse all kill is freaking sweet but now that GSTL is going to be an actual season, I think they are on even footing (slightly biased as my favorite team is an eSF team though)
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
yea that needs to happen. Maybe give the Friday/Saturday broadcasts to KeSPA and have them at their studio and Sunday/Monday at Gom.
because the separation obviously is not good. This would help build SC2 in Korea tremendously.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
They need to have a super bowl between GSTL and PL champs.
Or they could combine the leagues like how OGN and MBC once did and do it like J-League in Japan with J1 and J2.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
yea that needs to happen. Maybe give the Friday/Saturday broadcasts to KeSPA and have them at their studio and Sunday/Monday at Gom.
because the separation obviously is not good. This would help build SC2 in Korea tremendously.
Considering MBC used to be the other broadcaster for PL yup. It could work but first you have to put the egos aside.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
They need to have a super bowl between GSTL and PL champs.
Or they could combine the leagues like how OGN and MBC once did and do it like J-League in Japan with J1 and J2.
Thats actually how the Super bowl was started. AFL vs. NFL for the Super Bowl and then they merged into the NFL later.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
Yes, I can see that point, but to my knowledge (from 2009 onwards) proleague has been never more than 10 teams, maybe 12 at one point. I also say LG-IM since to join Proleague you need to laydown some dollar bills, and they have a big sponsor, also they have a deep enough line up that they won't be tiring out so much there players.
It's still hard for me to see the GSTL and Proleague work together at the same time to make only one mega league, and I'm scared if we have 2 team leagues + 2 individual leagues + Foreign leagues and events players will be to tired, heck even just in Korea players will be tired with 2 team leagues + 2 individual leagues.
And I can't really say have a contender league and a champion league;since, GSL and Kespa would never want that. Perhaps some type of deal that the winner of each league can play in both, and the other teams are randomly located in each league would make it interesting and fair and allow cross play between teams, I can't see ESF teams having the money to play in Proleague.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
2 year team league.
I don't think the season should be too too long, otherwise with so many teams we may end up in a situation where some teams are already 100% eliminated with 6-9+ months left to go in the proleague season, it ruins the intensity and their team morale.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
2 year team league.
Or make an upper division and a lower division, first one made of 8 or 9 teams and the other 6 or 5.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
2 year team league.
I don't think the season should be too too long, otherwise with so many teams we may end up in a situation where some teams are already 100% eliminated with 6-9+ months left to go in the proleague season, it ruins the intensity and their team morale.
Yeah lol I was joking. 2 year team league would be ridiculous haha
[SPL] STX Soul vs KeSPA Team 8 R1 Game 1: 0-0 Last vs BaBy Map: Arkanoid
0:00 Last spawns in the top left Baby spawns in the top right
1:40 rax first for Last
2:00 gas for Last CC first for Baby to the left base rax for Baby 2nd gas for Last marine for Last
3:00 gas for Baby Factory for Last marine of last clearing away creep tumor thing tech lab for Last tech lab for Baby
4:00 reaper for Last reaper for Baby Starport for Last 3rd CC started for Baby near the right base
5:00 2nd reaper for Baby 1st reaper for Baby scouts the right direction 1st reaper of Last scouts the wrong direction 2 more rax for Baby banshee and cloak research started for Last combat shields started for Baby CC started for Last to the left base
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
2 year team league.
Or make an upper division and a lower division, first one made of 8 or 9 teams and the other 6 or 5.
I suppose this if the two leagues are both produced by GOM and KESPA and not something like GOM is the lower division and KESPA is the upper one, like I was thinking in my post.
On December 23 2012 15:32 StarStruck wrote: I really hope this isn't a blowout.
Me too, but I just get so depressed looking at Team 8 ever since Jaedong left. That's why I changed who is my favorite team. They really need to dissolve Team 8 next season, transfer the players around and replace it with LG-IM.
The problem is LG-IM will never join Proleague unless they let all the other ESF teams join too, they would have to get another foreign team if they wanted to replace team 8. Hopefully It's possible to reach an agreement for the next season and let prime + st + fxo + mvp + lg-im + tsl + hoseo ( if they don't die ) and have a 14 team proleague.
One can dream, that's still very very far away from happening. Scheduling a 14 team league would be a lot of work too.
Would be fucking amazing to have a 14 team league though :D
It would be a lot of fun, they would have to go down to 4 rounds instead of 6 though. way too many matches per round to do 6 rounds.
2 year team league.
Or make an upper division and a lower division, first one made of 8 or 9 teams and the other 6 or 5.
I suppose this if the two leagues are both produced by GOM and KESPA and not something like GOM is the lower division and KESPA is the upper one, like I was thinking in my post.
I don't think splitting it up into a lower and upper division is a good idea, all that does is make people less interested in the lower matches. Just like less people watch contender division in IPTL compared to premier division, plus the teams are close enough in skill that there isn't a real need to create a lower division.
[SPL] STX Soul vs KeSPA Team 8 R1 Game 1: 0-0 Last vs BaBy Map: Arkanoid
0:00 Last spawns in the top left Baby spawns in the top right
1:40 rax first for Last
2:00 gas for Last CC first for Baby to the left base rax for Baby 2nd gas for Last marine for Last
3:00 gas for Baby Factory for Last marine of last clearing away creep tumor thing tech lab for Last tech lab for Baby
4:00 reaper for Last reaper for Baby Starport for Last 3rd CC started for Baby near the right base
5:00 2nd reaper for Baby 1st reaper for Baby scouts the right direction 1st reaper of Last scouts the wrong direction 2 more rax for Baby banshee and cloak research started for Last combat shields started for Baby CC started for Last to the left base
6:00 ebay for Baby ebay for Last missile turrets started for Baby 2nd banshee started for Last marines of Last pick off a reaper of Baby before it scouts anything banshee flies into the left base of Baby but a turret is up to defend reactored hellion production on the way for Last
7:00 Banshee flies into the main of Baby and cloaks Factory for Baby Raven for Last Banshee of Last trying to pick off marines scvs kill the reaper of Last marines chase away the banshee of Last
8:00 stim research and +1 bio attack started for Baby Starport started for Baby 2nd banshee comes into the main of Baby to try and pick off marines but scan is ready to chase it away medivac for Last turret denies the banshee at Baby's 3rd 3rd CC started for Last
9:00 4 hellions are loaded into a medivac for Last armory started for Last viking started for Last Last drops near Baby's 2nd base but marines and a marauder are ready to deny the drop 2 more factories started for Last double viking production started for Baby 2 more starports started for Baby hellion drop at the 3rd of Baby
10:00 hellions kill a mule and a few scvs and then drive by past the marines towards the main 15 scvs have fallen now vikings land to take out the scvs +1 vehicle weapons started for Last
[SPL] STX Soul vs KeSPA Team 8 R1 Game 1: 0-0 Last vs BaBy Map: Arkanoid
0:00 Last spawns in the top left Baby spawns in the top right
1:40 rax first for Last
2:00 gas for Last CC first for Baby to the left base rax for Baby 2nd gas for Last marine for Last
3:00 gas for Baby Factory for Last marine of last clearing away creep tumor thing tech lab for Last tech lab for Baby
4:00 reaper for Last reaper for Baby Starport for Last 3rd CC started for Baby near the right base
5:00 2nd reaper for Baby 1st reaper for Baby scouts the right direction 1st reaper of Last scouts the wrong direction 2 more rax for Baby banshee and cloak research started for Last combat shields started for Baby CC started for Last to the left base
6:00 ebay for Baby ebay for Last missile turrets started for Baby 2nd banshee started for Last marines of Last pick off a reaper of Baby before it scouts anything banshee flies into the left base of Baby but a turret is up to defend reactored hellion production on the way for Last
7:00 Banshee flies into the main of Baby and cloaks Factory for Baby Raven for Last Banshee of Last trying to pick off marines scvs kill the reaper of Last marines chase away the banshee of Last
8:00 stim research and +1 bio attack started for Baby Starport started for Baby 2nd banshee comes into the main of Baby to try and pick off marines but scan is ready to chase it away medivac for Last turret denies the banshee at Baby's 3rd 3rd CC started for Last
9:00 4 hellions are loaded into a medivac for Last armory started for Last viking started for Last Last drops near Baby's 2nd base but marines and a marauder are ready to deny the drop 2 more factories started for Last double viking production started for Baby 2 more starports started for Baby hellion drop at the 3rd of Baby
10:00 hellions kill a mule and a few scvs and then drive by past the marines towards the main 15 scvs have fallen now vikings land to take out the scvs +1 vehicle weapons started for Last
11:00 double medivac production for Baby 2nd starport finishes up for Last another factory for Last Baby starting to break down the rocks fusion core for Baby raven started for Baby Tank production underway for Last
12:00 Last lands his 3rd base Baby breaking into the center now Last starts breaking down his center corridor rocks BC production started for Baby triple viking production for Last blue flame research started for Last
13:00 double BC production for Baby now 4th CC started for Baby siege mode research started for Last 5th CC started for Baby in the bottom right main missile turrets going up for Last
14:00 Yamato cannon research started for Baby +1 ship weapons started for Last Last breaking into the center circle area now PF started for Baby in the bottom right 2 more starports started for Last
15:00 blue flame hellions chase baby's marines out of the middle hellions run them down and clean up the marines Last throwing up missile turrets all over the map
[SPL] STX Soul vs KeSPA Team 8 R1 Game 1: 0-0 Last vs BaBy Map: Arkanoid
0:00 Last spawns in the top left Baby spawns in the top right
1:40 rax first for Last
2:00 gas for Last CC first for Baby to the left base rax for Baby 2nd gas for Last marine for Last
3:00 gas for Baby Factory for Last marine of last clearing away creep tumor thing tech lab for Last tech lab for Baby
4:00 reaper for Last reaper for Baby Starport for Last 3rd CC started for Baby near the right base
5:00 2nd reaper for Baby 1st reaper for Baby scouts the right direction 1st reaper of Last scouts the wrong direction 2 more rax for Baby banshee and cloak research started for Last combat shields started for Baby CC started for Last to the left base
6:00 ebay for Baby ebay for Last missile turrets started for Baby 2nd banshee started for Last marines of Last pick off a reaper of Baby before it scouts anything banshee flies into the left base of Baby but a turret is up to defend reactored hellion production on the way for Last
7:00 Banshee flies into the main of Baby and cloaks Factory for Baby Raven for Last Banshee of Last trying to pick off marines scvs kill the reaper of Last marines chase away the banshee of Last
8:00 stim research and +1 bio attack started for Baby Starport started for Baby 2nd banshee comes into the main of Baby to try and pick off marines but scan is ready to chase it away medivac for Last turret denies the banshee at Baby's 3rd 3rd CC started for Last
9:00 4 hellions are loaded into a medivac for Last armory started for Last viking started for Last Last drops near Baby's 2nd base but marines and a marauder are ready to deny the drop 2 more factories started for Last double viking production started for Baby 2 more starports started for Baby hellion drop at the 3rd of Baby
10:00 hellions kill a mule and a few scvs and then drive by past the marines towards the main 15 scvs have fallen now vikings land to take out the scvs +1 vehicle weapons started for Last
11:00 double medivac production for Baby 2nd starport finishes up for Last another factory for Last Baby starting to break down the rocks fusion core for Baby raven started for Baby Tank production underway for Last
12:00 Last lands his 3rd base Baby breaking into the center now Last starts breaking down his center corridor rocks BC production started for Baby triple viking production for Last blue flame research started for Last
13:00 double BC production for Baby now 4th CC started for Baby siege mode research started for Last 5th CC started for Baby in the bottom right main missile turrets going up for Last
14:00 Yamato cannon research started for Baby +1 ship weapons started for Last Last breaking into the center circle area now PF started for Baby in the bottom right 2 more starports started for Last
15:00 blue flame hellions chase baby's marines out of the middle hellions run them down and clean up the marines Last throwing up missile turrets all over the map
16:00 battlecruisers are revealed 8 marine drop at the left base of Last kills some scvs double armory finishing up for Baby Last has the viking lead by 5 2 thors out for Last now 5 BCs out for Baby
17:00 PF started for Baby at his 5th base 22 vikings vs 18 vikings in favor of Last Baby throwing away marines to free up supply
18:00 missile turrets in the center of the map for Last 2 more CCs finishing up for Baby inside his main quadrant Last pushing towards Baby's base 2nd raven out for Baby
19:00 Last spamming turrets still outside Baby's base vikings pick off A BC yamato cannons shoot at the vikings missile turrets finish under the army of Baby viking battle 1-1 finishes for Baby's air Baby 's air army is cleaned up by vikings thors and turrets
20:00 Rocks explode +2 ship weapons started for both players Last sieges up the 3rd of Baby BC tries to pick off tanks missile turret finishes next to Last's tanks Baby lifts his 3rd CC
[SPL] STX Soul vs KeSPA Team 8 R1 Game 1: 0-0 Last vs BaBy Map: Arkanoid
0:00 Last spawns in the top left Baby spawns in the top right
1:40 rax first for Last
2:00 gas for Last CC first for Baby to the left base rax for Baby 2nd gas for Last marine for Last
3:00 gas for Baby Factory for Last marine of last clearing away creep tumor thing tech lab for Last tech lab for Baby
4:00 reaper for Last reaper for Baby Starport for Last 3rd CC started for Baby near the right base
5:00 2nd reaper for Baby 1st reaper for Baby scouts the right direction 1st reaper of Last scouts the wrong direction 2 more rax for Baby banshee and cloak research started for Last combat shields started for Baby CC started for Last to the left base
6:00 ebay for Baby ebay for Last missile turrets started for Baby 2nd banshee started for Last marines of Last pick off a reaper of Baby before it scouts anything banshee flies into the left base of Baby but a turret is up to defend reactored hellion production on the way for Last
7:00 Banshee flies into the main of Baby and cloaks Factory for Baby Raven for Last Banshee of Last trying to pick off marines scvs kill the reaper of Last marines chase away the banshee of Last
8:00 stim research and +1 bio attack started for Baby Starport started for Baby 2nd banshee comes into the main of Baby to try and pick off marines but scan is ready to chase it away medivac for Last turret denies the banshee at Baby's 3rd 3rd CC started for Last
9:00 4 hellions are loaded into a medivac for Last armory started for Last viking started for Last Last drops near Baby's 2nd base but marines and a marauder are ready to deny the drop 2 more factories started for Last double viking production started for Baby 2 more starports started for Baby hellion drop at the 3rd of Baby
10:00 hellions kill a mule and a few scvs and then drive by past the marines towards the main 15 scvs have fallen now vikings land to take out the scvs +1 vehicle weapons started for Last
11:00 double medivac production for Baby 2nd starport finishes up for Last another factory for Last Baby starting to break down the rocks fusion core for Baby raven started for Baby Tank production underway for Last
12:00 Last lands his 3rd base Baby breaking into the center now Last starts breaking down his center corridor rocks BC production started for Baby triple viking production for Last blue flame research started for Last
13:00 double BC production for Baby now 4th CC started for Baby siege mode research started for Last 5th CC started for Baby in the bottom right main missile turrets going up for Last
14:00 Yamato cannon research started for Baby +1 ship weapons started for Last Last breaking into the center circle area now PF started for Baby in the bottom right 2 more starports started for Last
15:00 blue flame hellions chase baby's marines out of the middle hellions run them down and clean up the marines Last throwing up missile turrets all over the map
16:00 battlecruisers are revealed 8 marine drop at the left base of Last kills some scvs double armory finishing up for Baby Last has the viking lead by 5 2 thors out for Last now 5 BCs out for Baby
17:00 PF started for Baby at his 5th base 22 vikings vs 18 vikings in favor of Last Baby throwing away marines to free up supply
18:00 missile turrets in the center of the map for Last 2 more CCs finishing up for Baby inside his main quadrant Last pushing towards Baby's base 2nd raven out for Baby
19:00 Last spamming turrets still outside Baby's base vikings pick off A BC yamato cannons shoot at the vikings missile turrets finish under the army of Baby viking battle 1-1 finishes for Baby's air Baby 's air army is cleaned up by vikings thors and turrets
20:00 Rocks explode +2 ship weapons started for both players Last sieges up the 3rd of Baby BC tries to pick off tanks missile turret finishes next to Last's tanks Baby lifts his 3rd CC
21:00 marine counterattack at the 3rd of Last hellions return home to clean it up Baby is still up in supply by 30 Baby switching back into a bio composition
22:00 marauders engage unsieged tanks and kill off a few vikings land to help fight the bio Last pushing into the top left base of Baby bunkers falls vikings lift again as the bio is cleaned up more missile turrets for Last BCs and vikings fly over to fight Last's army BCs take out the thors of Last
23:00 Baby takes a 50 supply lead Last tries to land a 4th base but it's denied by a small marine force of Baby Bio force of Baby attacking the top right base of Last BCs and vikings join up with Baby's army Last lifts his CC vikings start killing the CC Last loses almost all of his vikings 5 BCs are out for Baby
Ah, such fun on Arkanoid! I can't say I expected battlecruisers, but it was a blast to watch. I need more, such great matches given by proleague, I haven't been this excited to watch since the first GSL I paid for.
sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
On December 23 2012 16:07 Irre wrote: sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
If all games in Proleague were Code S, then Code S would lose its meaning lol.
seriously ppl needs to expand beyond 3 bases on this map. The opponent is either too too focused on breaking the main gate or not keeping the whole huge map in check
On December 23 2012 16:07 Irre wrote: sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
If every game is Code S level... How could we even tell what Code S level is?
Also what part of that game wasn't Code S level? They both macro'd very well, good army movement and unit control mind games and great decision making etc. I'd say that was pretty damn close to Code S level.
On December 23 2012 16:07 Irre wrote: sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
Well aware man, but Code A? Even Code A is pretty good atm lol. I'm not going to talk about last season and this season isn't completely tickling my fancy either. Going to take more time and patience.
On December 23 2012 16:07 Irre wrote: sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
It's to be expected, the ESF guys have a lot more games under their belt. There's a higher level of refinement there that's absent from the play of the Kespa players, though some of them are catching up pretty quickly and a few are already elite SC2 players.
On December 23 2012 16:07 Irre wrote: sorry to be debbie downer, but even though that was an enjoyable match and i really like the map, cant help but feeling that this play is not really the best..Code A level tops. Its not bad or anything I still enjoy, but its not like watching Code S level players yet
If every game is Code S level... How could we even tell what Code S level is?
Also what part of that game wasn't Code S level? They both macro'd very well, good army movement and unit control mind games and great decision making etc. I'd say that was pretty damn close to Code S level.
well a few things would be:
Both players were fairly blind going into the mid game compositions, but they seemed to guess each others styles ? The air mech thing was strange but cool
Lasts play was definitely worse than Babys. Last had 3 base for so long never tried to expand, never was active with hellions evne though they werent needed so much on the front lines a majority of the time. He also took ridiculous amounts of damage from bio harass at his 3rd. Never really got a great unit mix on top.
Not going to nitpick everything but there are definitely a decent amount of weak parts you wouldnt see in a Code S TvT in GSL, at least not in their mid-lategame play.
Again, not saying the games are bad or boring. I actually really enjoy watching it and its a fun map. Just kind of hard to be amazed at the play right now bc its just not that top level so far.
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 2: 1-0 Ryul2 vs hyvaa Map: Tal'Darim Altar
0:00 Ryul2 spawns in the bottom left hyvaa spawns in the top right
1:40 pool for hyvaa pool for Ryul 2 gas for hyvaa gas for Ryul2
2:00 8 lings started for Ryul2 hyvaa goes for a queen first ling speed for hyvaa ling speed for Ryul2
3:00 baneling nest for Ryul2 baneling nest for hyvaa both players pumping out lings
4:00 lings of Ryul2 arrive at the base of hyvaa hyvaa's lings chase away Ryul2's lings defensive banelings morphing for Ryul2 offensive banelings started for hyvaa (2) speed finishes for both players
5:00 more banelings morphing for hyvaa outside Ryul2's natural Ryul2 making more defensive banes Ryul2 loses some lings to banelings hyvaa trading better so far
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 2: 1-0 Ryul2 vs hyvaa Map: Tal'Darim Altar
0:00 Ryul2 spawns in the bottom left hyvaa spawns in the top right
1:40 pool for hyvaa pool for Ryul 2 gas for hyvaa gas for Ryul2
2:00 8 lings started for Ryul2 hyvaa goes for a queen first ling speed for hyvaa ling speed for Ryul2
3:00 baneling nest for Ryul2 baneling nest for hyvaa both players pumping out lings
4:00 lings of Ryul2 arrive at the base of hyvaa hyvaa's lings chase away Ryul2's lings defensive banelings morphing for Ryul2 offensive banelings started for hyvaa (2) speed finishes for both players
5:00 more banelings morphing for hyvaa outside Ryul2's natural Ryul2 making more defensive banes Ryul2 loses some lings to banelings hyvaa trading better so far
6:00 queen picks off the queen of Ryul2 Ryul2 has enough lings to push back the lings of hyvaa hyvaa regroups his lings and targets down the morphing banes of Ryul2
7:00 more banelings come in for hyvaa but they dont get the best hits in the mineral line but kills the larva a new queen comes out and helps defend hyvaa runs in with more lings Ryul2 ggs! hyvaa wins and ties it up 1-1!
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 3: 1-1 Jaehoon vs Bogus Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 Jaehoon spawns in the bottom left Bogus spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for Jaehoon rax first for Bogus
2:00 gas for Jaehoon fast wall from Bogus to deny scouting Cybernetics core for Jaehoon
3:00 2nd gas for Jaehoon Jaehoon is skipping his first zealot CC on the high ground for Bogus stalker for Jaehoon scv scout of Bogus sees the main of Jaehoon
4:00 2 more rax for Bogus sentry for Jaehoon double gas for Bogus Nexus for Jaehoon bunker in the natural for Bogus
5:00 robo for Jaehoon continued sentry production for Jaehoon using 3 probes on each gas I believe instead of the standard 2 tech lab for Bogus gateway for Jaehoon stim research started for Bogus probe scout is denied by the bunker but floating CC is spotted
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 3: 1-1 Jaehoon vs Bogus Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 Jaehoon spawns in the bottom left Bogus spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for Jaehoon rax first for Bogus
2:00 gas for Jaehoon fast wall from Bogus to deny scouting Cybernetics core for Jaehoon
3:00 2nd gas for Jaehoon Jaehoon is skipping his first zealot CC on the high ground for Bogus stalker for Jaehoon scv scout of Bogus sees the main of Jaehoon
4:00 2 more rax for Bogus sentry for Jaehoon double gas for Bogus Nexus for Jaehoon bunker in the natural for Bogus
5:00 robo for Jaehoon continued sentry production for Jaehoon using 3 probes on each gas I believe instead of the standard 2 tech lab for Bogus gateway for Jaehoon stim research started for Bogus probe scout is denied by the bunker but floating CC is spotted
6:00 immortal production started for Jaehoon 2nd bunker for Bogus Factory started for Bogus 4 sentries moving out on the map observer started for Jaehoon
7:00 Bogus takes his 3rd gas ebay started for Bogus immortal walking across the map to meet up with the gateway army 2 more gas for Jaehoon Bogus salvages 1 of his bunkers and starts walking out with almost all of his marines Starport started for Bogus
8:00 Jaehoon looking to poke at the natural of Bogus with his immortal and 4 sentries Bogus walking across the map with his marines double forge for Jaehoon +1 attack started for Bogus Jaehoon's observer sees the marines moving across the map Jaehoon sends his army home 2nd observer if Jaehoon is killed by the marines stalkers start killing off the marines
9:00 more gates being added on for Jaehoon marauder production underway for Bogus combat shields started for Bogus medivac production started for Bogus 2nd observer of Jaehoon is killed in the main of Bogus 1-1 started for Jaehoon 3rd CC started in the main for Bogus another observer comes out for Jaehoon
10:00 Robotics bay started for Jaehoon twilight council started for Jaehoon +1 armor started for Bogus Bogus pushes out around the top of the map with his first 2 medivacs 2 more rax for Bogus
Really wish the scene would stay consistent with kespa player names. Tired of seeing Innovation on screen and hearing the casters switch between bogus and innovation. It'd be equally bad if we casters still called MKP 'foxer.
LOL this casting. Bogus can't push because he can't have concussive shell? Just as Jaehoon starts 2/2 - "Jaehoon doesn't look like he's going to expand" -> Jaehoon expands as he says that. Thank god for mute button.
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 3: 1-1 Jaehoon vs Bogus Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 Jaehoon spawns in the bottom left Bogus spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for Jaehoon rax first for Bogus
2:00 gas for Jaehoon fast wall from Bogus to deny scouting Cybernetics core for Jaehoon
3:00 2nd gas for Jaehoon Jaehoon is skipping his first zealot CC on the high ground for Bogus stalker for Jaehoon scv scout of Bogus sees the main of Jaehoon
4:00 2 more rax for Bogus sentry for Jaehoon double gas for Bogus Nexus for Jaehoon bunker in the natural for Bogus
5:00 robo for Jaehoon continued sentry production for Jaehoon using 3 probes on each gas I believe instead of the standard 2 tech lab for Bogus gateway for Jaehoon stim research started for Bogus probe scout is denied by the bunker but floating CC is spotted
6:00 immortal production started for Jaehoon 2nd bunker for Bogus Factory started for Bogus 4 sentries moving out on the map observer started for Jaehoon
7:00 Bogus takes his 3rd gas ebay started for Bogus immortal walking across the map to meet up with the gateway army 2 more gas for Jaehoon Bogus salvages 1 of his bunkers and starts walking out with almost all of his marines Starport started for Bogus
8:00 Jaehoon looking to poke at the natural of Bogus with his immortal and 4 sentries Bogus walking across the map with his marines double forge for Jaehoon +1 attack started for Bogus Jaehoon's observer sees the marines moving across the map Jaehoon sends his army home 2nd observer if Jaehoon is killed by the marines stalkers start killing off the marines
9:00 more gates being added on for Jaehoon marauder production underway for Bogus combat shields started for Bogus medivac production started for Bogus 2nd observer of Jaehoon is killed in the main of Bogus 1-1 started for Jaehoon 3rd CC started in the main for Bogus another observer comes out for Jaehoon
10:00 Robotics bay started for Jaehoon twilight council started for Jaehoon +1 armor started for Bogus Bogus pushes out around the top of the map with his first 2 medivacs 2 more rax for Bogus
11:00 Blink research started for Jaehoon 2-2 started for Jaehoon Colossus production started for Jaehoon concussive shells started for Bogus another observer picked off Bogus goes in to deny a 3rd but there is nothing there but a zealot
12:00 Extended thermal lance research started for Jaehoon ghost academy and armory started for Bogus 1st colossus is out to defend for Jaehoon Bogus backs off as he lands his 3rd CC
13:00 3rd base started for Jaehoon moebius reactor and 2-2 started for Bogus double viking production started for Bogus charge research started for Jaehoon small bio force pushes into the natural of Jaehoon but zealots chase it away ghost production started for Bogus stalkers blink after the retreating army and take out 2 medivacs
14:00 3-3 started for Jaehoon 2nd starport started for Bogus +1 ship weapons started for Bogus
15:00 Templar archives started for Jaehoon another observer of Bogus's army is killed ghost cloak research started for Bogus 4 more gates for Jaehoon 3 colossi out for Jaehoon atm 4th on the way HTs begin warping in
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 3: 1-1 Jaehoon vs Bogus Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 Jaehoon spawns in the bottom left Bogus spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for Jaehoon rax first for Bogus
2:00 gas for Jaehoon fast wall from Bogus to deny scouting Cybernetics core for Jaehoon
3:00 2nd gas for Jaehoon Jaehoon is skipping his first zealot CC on the high ground for Bogus stalker for Jaehoon scv scout of Bogus sees the main of Jaehoon
4:00 2 more rax for Bogus sentry for Jaehoon double gas for Bogus Nexus for Jaehoon bunker in the natural for Bogus
5:00 robo for Jaehoon continued sentry production for Jaehoon using 3 probes on each gas I believe instead of the standard 2 tech lab for Bogus gateway for Jaehoon stim research started for Bogus probe scout is denied by the bunker but floating CC is spotted
6:00 immortal production started for Jaehoon 2nd bunker for Bogus Factory started for Bogus 4 sentries moving out on the map observer started for Jaehoon
7:00 Bogus takes his 3rd gas ebay started for Bogus immortal walking across the map to meet up with the gateway army 2 more gas for Jaehoon Bogus salvages 1 of his bunkers and starts walking out with almost all of his marines Starport started for Bogus
8:00 Jaehoon looking to poke at the natural of Bogus with his immortal and 4 sentries Bogus walking across the map with his marines double forge for Jaehoon +1 attack started for Bogus Jaehoon's observer sees the marines moving across the map Jaehoon sends his army home 2nd observer if Jaehoon is killed by the marines stalkers start killing off the marines
9:00 more gates being added on for Jaehoon marauder production underway for Bogus combat shields started for Bogus medivac production started for Bogus 2nd observer of Jaehoon is killed in the main of Bogus 1-1 started for Jaehoon 3rd CC started in the main for Bogus another observer comes out for Jaehoon
10:00 Robotics bay started for Jaehoon twilight council started for Jaehoon +1 armor started for Bogus Bogus pushes out around the top of the map with his first 2 medivacs 2 more rax for Bogus
11:00 Blink research started for Jaehoon 2-2 started for Jaehoon Colossus production started for Jaehoon concussive shells started for Bogus another observer picked off Bogus goes in to deny a 3rd but there is nothing there but a zealot
12:00 Extended thermal lance research started for Jaehoon ghost academy and armory started for Bogus 1st colossus is out to defend for Jaehoon Bogus backs off as he lands his 3rd CC
13:00 3rd base started for Jaehoon moebius reactor and 2-2 started for Bogus double viking production started for Bogus charge research started for Jaehoon small bio force pushes into the natural of Jaehoon but zealots chase it away ghost production started for Bogus stalkers blink after the retreating army and take out 2 medivacs
14:00 3-3 started for Jaehoon 2nd starport started for Bogus +1 ship weapons started for Bogus
15:00 Templar archives started for Jaehoon another observer of Bogus's army is killed ghost cloak research started for Bogus 4 more gates for Jaehoon 3 colossi out for Jaehoon atm 4th on the way HTs begin warping in
16:00 4th base started for Jaehoon first HTs turned into archons 3-3 started for Bogus 4th base on the way for Bogus
17:00 Jaehoon pushing across the map Jaehoon is breaking down the rocks outside of Bogus's natural 8 vikings vs 4 colossi cloaked ghosts move downt he ramp and emp the whole army of Jaehoon Jaehoon has no observer with his army Jaehoon pushes up the natural ramp Bogus gets a concave at the top of the ramp 3-3 army of Jaehoon is pushing through
18:00 Bogus retreats back into his main base zealots are ripping the natural mineral line to shreds 3 archons are still alive huge zealot warp in joins in with the army of Jaehoon Jaehoon is 70 supply ahead Bogus is holding his main ramp Jaehoon backs off after forcing a lift on the natural
19:00 zealots run into the 3rd of Bogus zealots change their mind and let all the scvs at the 3rd live Bogus comes down his main ramp Jaehoon forcefields the ramp trapping the army on the low ground zealots shred the army of Bogus natural CC of Bogus is destroyed another colossus joins up with the army of Jaehoon Jaehoon is 100 supply ahead
20:00 Bogus's main wall depot is down zealots pour into the main Bogus ggs! Jaehoon wins! 2-1
Well fuck, I get rid of jaehoon on my anti after week 1. He plays taeja and bogus this week so I figured it wouldn't hurt to pick him up again. Bad idea.
JAEHOON #1 TOSS WHOOOOOOOO! WILL HIS UNDEFEATED PROLEAGUE STREAK EVER END?
Seriously though that was a well played game by him. And why would you even anti-team him, I don't remember him being that bad last year anyway. I thought he was pretty inspired again after T8 picked him up. I mean cmon, it's not like he can fuck up a recall anymore right? Esp once HotS hits.
On December 23 2012 16:50 Dodgin wrote: apparently putting jaehoon on my anti team was the worst decision ever
Same here.
not as bad as herO on anti hehehe
Thing is I had Jaehoon and Reality on my anti-team, and wanted to trade one of them off. Got rid of Reality; he lost his game this week, and Jaehoon wins his.
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
I thought STX was going to be the #1 team before the season started, they are having a bit of trouble closing out a series. Both of their match losses were in the ace match.
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
I thought he was leaving TL after his "Sorry" tweet, wasn't too far off lol
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
They are experienced in the game, but not in the Proleague format (except Jaedong and/or Puma).
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
They are experienced in the game, but not in the Proleague format (except Jaedong and/or Puma).
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 4: 2-1 Speed vs Trap Map: Planet S
0:00 Speed spawns in the top right Trap spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Trap gas first for Speed rax for Speed gas for Trap
2:00 probe scout of Trap sees the gas first of Speed Cybernetics core for Trap
3:00 Factory for Speed -- Trap sees this with his probe scout zealot for Trap reactor on the barrack of Speed after Trap's probe leaves stalker for Trap
4:00 starport started for Speed proxied at the top of the map reactored hellion production started for Speed zealot scout is denied from the main by a supply depot wall Nexus started for Trap 2nd gas for Trap bunker started at the main ramp for Speed
5:00 2nd gate for Trap probe scout sees the first 2 hellions medivac started for Speed 3rd gate for Trap another stalker on the way for Trap starport floating back to main after medivac finishes
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
Really? I though EG-TL would struggle because their coaching staff is undersize and questionable. Most of the players doesn't have much experience in PL format and they have to attend foreign events as well.
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 4: 2-1 Speed vs Trap Map: Planet S
0:00 Speed spawns in the top right Trap spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Trap gas first for Speed rax for Speed gas for Trap
2:00 probe scout of Trap sees the gas first of Speed Cybernetics core for Trap
3:00 Factory for Speed -- Trap sees this with his probe scout zealot for Trap reactor on the barrack of Speed after Trap's probe leaves stalker for Trap
4:00 starport started for Speed proxied at the top of the map reactored hellion production started for Speed zealot scout is denied from the main by a supply depot wall Nexus started for Trap 2nd gas for Trap bunker started at the main ramp for Speed
5:00 2nd gate for Trap probe scout sees the first 2 hellions medivac started for Speed 3rd gate for Trap another stalker on the way for Trap starport floating back to main after medivac finishes
6:00 CC on the high ground for Speed tech lab for Speed 2nd rax for Speed 4 hellion drop in the main of Trap stalkers kill off the hellions 7 probes are killed by the drop
7:00 3rd rax on the way for Speed 2nd gas for Trap Robo for Trap stim research started for Speed
8:00 8 marines loaded into the medivac of Speed observer started for Trap drop in the natural of Trap sentry is targeted down marines load back into the medivac but stalkers kill the full medivac
9:00 forge for Trap reactored medivac production started for Speed twilight council started for Trap combat shields started for Speed +1 armor started for Trap
10:00 observer scouts the main of Speed and sees 2 medivacs coming out at a time 2 more gates for Trap Templar archives started for Trap double drop of Speed is scouted by a probe 3rd CC started for Speed charge research started for Trap drop in the main is denied by stalkers
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
Really? I though EG-TL would struggle because their coaching staff is undersize and questionable. Most of the players doesn't have much experience in PL format and they have to attend foreign events as well.
Plus it's not like they've been demolished 4-0 every time. First one was 4-0 but the other ones were 4-3 and they had a 4-0 win as well.
On December 23 2012 16:57 silent_owl wrote: Wow. STX has a strong team on paper. hyvaa, mini, Bogus and Trap.
That's what i was thinking when I picked my FPL team >.>
Same, KT for 3 points now seems to have been such a better pick.
Sea for a couple points seemed really good at the time too
I didnt get him because I thought it was odd that someone with a lot of proleague experience that was showing a lot of promise in the game wasn't slated to play in week 1. it seemed like something was up and it ended up being true
Lol. I'm sure they'll become more consistent down the road. For me, the biggest disappointment has been EG-TL. I expected them to be at the top with their more experienced roster.
Really? I though EG-TL would struggle because their coaching staff is undersize and questionable. Most of the players doesn't have much experience in PL format and they have to attend foreign events as well.
Plus it's not like they've been demolished 4-0 every time. First one was 4-0 but the other ones were 4-3 and they had a 4-0 win as well.
I suppose so. FPL is a different ball-game from an individual tourney.
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 4: 2-1 Speed vs Trap Map: Planet S
0:00 Speed spawns in the top right Trap spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Trap gas first for Speed rax for Speed gas for Trap
2:00 probe scout of Trap sees the gas first of Speed Cybernetics core for Trap
3:00 Factory for Speed -- Trap sees this with his probe scout zealot for Trap reactor on the barrack of Speed after Trap's probe leaves stalker for Trap
4:00 starport started for Speed proxied at the top of the map reactored hellion production started for Speed zealot scout is denied from the main by a supply depot wall Nexus started for Trap 2nd gas for Trap bunker started at the main ramp for Speed
5:00 2nd gate for Trap probe scout sees the first 2 hellions medivac started for Speed 3rd gate for Trap another stalker on the way for Trap starport floating back to main after medivac finishes
6:00 CC on the high ground for Speed tech lab for Speed 2nd rax for Speed 4 hellion drop in the main of Trap stalkers kill off the hellions 7 probes are killed by the drop
7:00 3rd rax on the way for Speed 2nd gas for Trap Robo for Trap stim research started for Speed
8:00 8 marines loaded into the medivac of Speed observer started for Trap drop in the natural of Trap sentry is targeted down marines load back into the medivac but stalkers kill the full medivac
9:00 forge for Trap reactored medivac production started for Speed twilight council started for Trap combat shields started for Speed +1 armor started for Trap
10:00 observer scouts the main of Speed and sees 2 medivacs coming out at a time 2 more gates for Trap Templar archives started for Trap double drop of Speed is scouted by a probe 3rd CC started for Speed charge research started for Trap drop in the main is denied by stalkers
11:00 double ebay for Speed Templars being warped in 1-1 started for Speed Speed tries to stim attack into the natural forcefields block the units and feedback on the medivacs HTs morphed into an archon Speed has to back off
12:00 2nd forge started for Trap storm research started for Trap Speed comes back in for an attack forcefields split off some marines Trap is able to push him back easily 2 more rax for Speed
13:00 Speed comes back for another attack but backs off when he sees the number of HTs +2 armor and +1 attack on the way for Trap armory started for Speed Trap comes out of his natural and chases away the army of Speed 3rd base started for Speed double drop attempt on the main of Trap
14:00 both medivacs are trapped in space between 2 halves of Trap's army 2-2 started for Speed ghost academy finishing up for Speed feedback kills 1 full medivac moebius reactor started for Speed +2 attack started for Trap ghost production started for Speed
15:00 Trap is ahead by 10 supply Trap pushing across the map +1 ship weapons started for Speed Speed's army runs into Trap's army Speed has to back off because his army is too small lift on the 3rd of Speed
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 4: 2-1 Speed vs Trap Map: Planet S
0:00 Speed spawns in the top right Trap spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Trap gas first for Speed rax for Speed gas for Trap
2:00 probe scout of Trap sees the gas first of Speed Cybernetics core for Trap
3:00 Factory for Speed -- Trap sees this with his probe scout zealot for Trap reactor on the barrack of Speed after Trap's probe leaves stalker for Trap
4:00 starport started for Speed proxied at the top of the map reactored hellion production started for Speed zealot scout is denied from the main by a supply depot wall Nexus started for Trap 2nd gas for Trap bunker started at the main ramp for Speed
5:00 2nd gate for Trap probe scout sees the first 2 hellions medivac started for Speed 3rd gate for Trap another stalker on the way for Trap starport floating back to main after medivac finishes
6:00 CC on the high ground for Speed tech lab for Speed 2nd rax for Speed 4 hellion drop in the main of Trap stalkers kill off the hellions 7 probes are killed by the drop
7:00 3rd rax on the way for Speed 2nd gas for Trap Robo for Trap stim research started for Speed
8:00 8 marines loaded into the medivac of Speed observer started for Trap drop in the natural of Trap sentry is targeted down marines load back into the medivac but stalkers kill the full medivac
9:00 forge for Trap reactored medivac production started for Speed twilight council started for Trap combat shields started for Speed +1 armor started for Trap
10:00 observer scouts the main of Speed and sees 2 medivacs coming out at a time 2 more gates for Trap Templar archives started for Trap double drop of Speed is scouted by a probe 3rd CC started for Speed charge research started for Trap drop in the main is denied by stalkers
11:00 double ebay for Speed Templars being warped in 1-1 started for Speed Speed tries to stim attack into the natural forcefields block the units and feedback on the medivacs HTs morphed into an archon Speed has to back off
12:00 2nd forge started for Trap storm research started for Trap Speed comes back in for an attack forcefields split off some marines Trap is able to push him back easily 2 more rax for Speed
13:00 Speed comes back for another attack but backs off when he sees the number of HTs +2 armor and +1 attack on the way for Trap armory started for Speed Trap comes out of his natural and chases away the army of Speed 3rd base started for Speed double drop attempt on the main of Trap
14:00 both medivacs are trapped in space between 2 halves of Trap's army 2-2 started for Speed ghost academy finishing up for Speed feedback kills 1 full medivac moebius reactor started for Speed +2 attack started for Trap ghost production started for Speed
15:00 Trap is ahead by 10 supply Trap pushing across the map +1 ship weapons started for Speed Speed's army runs into Trap's army Speed has to back off because his army is too small lift on the 3rd of Speed
16:00 drop at the 3rd of Trap Robotics bay started for Trap drop at the 3rd is cleaned up warp prism started for Trap +3 armor started for Trap Speed groups up a larger army and pushes back Trap to retake his 3rd
17:00 Trap thinks about attacking but backs off 2 templars are sniped Speed starting to push across the map another HT is sniped 2 ghosts are killed by feedback
18:00 engagement in the middle of the map Speed is kiting the zealot army back towards his 3rd Trap tries to storm the army but it's only a glancing blow warp prism speed finished and HTs are flying around in WP with the army zealot runby at the 3rd of Speed
19:00 storm drop at the 3rd of Speed kills a lot of scvs and damages some marauders zealots at the 3rd of Speed are cleaned up 2 colossi out for Trap now 0 vikings for Speed Extended thermal lance research on the way +3 almost finished for Trap
20:00 4th CC finishes up for Speed ghosts snipe another HT but take some storm damage +1 plasma shields started for Trap double viking production started for Speed 2nd starport started for Speed Trap engages the army of Speed Speed is able to hold on and the marauders take out both colossi and most of the stalkers
[SPL] KeSPA Team 8 vs STX Soul Game 4: 2-1 Speed vs Trap Map: Planet S
0:00 Speed spawns in the top right Trap spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for Trap gas first for Speed rax for Speed gas for Trap
2:00 probe scout of Trap sees the gas first of Speed Cybernetics core for Trap
3:00 Factory for Speed -- Trap sees this with his probe scout zealot for Trap reactor on the barrack of Speed after Trap's probe leaves stalker for Trap
4:00 starport started for Speed proxied at the top of the map reactored hellion production started for Speed zealot scout is denied from the main by a supply depot wall Nexus started for Trap 2nd gas for Trap bunker started at the main ramp for Speed
5:00 2nd gate for Trap probe scout sees the first 2 hellions medivac started for Speed 3rd gate for Trap another stalker on the way for Trap starport floating back to main after medivac finishes
6:00 CC on the high ground for Speed tech lab for Speed 2nd rax for Speed 4 hellion drop in the main of Trap stalkers kill off the hellions 7 probes are killed by the drop
7:00 3rd rax on the way for Speed 2nd gas for Trap Robo for Trap stim research started for Speed
8:00 8 marines loaded into the medivac of Speed observer started for Trap drop in the natural of Trap sentry is targeted down marines load back into the medivac but stalkers kill the full medivac
9:00 forge for Trap reactored medivac production started for Speed twilight council started for Trap combat shields started for Speed +1 armor started for Trap
10:00 observer scouts the main of Speed and sees 2 medivacs coming out at a time 2 more gates for Trap Templar archives started for Trap double drop of Speed is scouted by a probe 3rd CC started for Speed charge research started for Trap drop in the main is denied by stalkers
11:00 double ebay for Speed Templars being warped in 1-1 started for Speed Speed tries to stim attack into the natural forcefields block the units and feedback on the medivacs HTs morphed into an archon Speed has to back off
12:00 2nd forge started for Trap storm research started for Trap Speed comes back in for an attack forcefields split off some marines Trap is able to push him back easily 2 more rax for Speed
13:00 Speed comes back for another attack but backs off when he sees the number of HTs +2 armor and +1 attack on the way for Trap armory started for Speed Trap comes out of his natural and chases away the army of Speed 3rd base started for Speed double drop attempt on the main of Trap
14:00 both medivacs are trapped in space between 2 halves of Trap's army 2-2 started for Speed ghost academy finishing up for Speed feedback kills 1 full medivac moebius reactor started for Speed +2 attack started for Trap ghost production started for Speed
15:00 Trap is ahead by 10 supply Trap pushing across the map +1 ship weapons started for Speed Speed's army runs into Trap's army Speed has to back off because his army is too small lift on the 3rd of Speed
16:00 drop at the 3rd of Trap Robotics bay started for Trap drop at the 3rd is cleaned up warp prism started for Trap +3 armor started for Trap Speed groups up a larger army and pushes back Trap to retake his 3rd
17:00 Trap thinks about attacking but backs off 2 templars are sniped Speed starting to push across the map another HT is sniped 2 ghosts are killed by feedback
18:00 engagement in the middle of the map Speed is kiting the zealot army back towards his 3rd Trap tries to storm the army but it's only a glancing blow warp prism speed finished and HTs are flying around in WP with the army zealot runby at the 3rd of Speed
19:00 storm drop at the 3rd of Speed kills a lot of scvs and damages some marauders zealots at the 3rd of Speed are cleaned up 2 colossi out for Trap now 0 vikings for Speed Extended thermal lance research on the way +3 almost finished for Trap
20:00 4th CC finishes up for Speed ghosts snipe another HT but take some storm damage +1 plasma shields started for Trap double viking production started for Speed 2nd starport started for Speed Trap engages the army of Speed Speed is able to hold on and the marauders take out both colossi and most of the stalkers
21:00 some more HTs are picked off by a small bio force Trap still has a 10 supply lead double colossus production continues and 2 more are already out Speed is not making any vikings at the moment
22:00 Trap regroups his army and starts pushing across the map again double drop at the 3rd of Trap zealots and a colossus at Trap's 3rd are ready to defend Speed has to lift his 3rd another warp prism started for Trap Trap pushing into the natural of Speed Speed has like no army at home Trap is 40 supply ahead
23:00 storm on all of the scvs in the natural killing a lot of them storm on the army of Speed doing lots of damage 3rd base of Speed still floating with zealots denying landing all the vikings are killed colossi are sieging up the main of Speed Speed ggs! Trap wins and ties it up 2-2!
Hey guys, It's 3:20 AM and I have to be up early tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and head to bed. Sorry I can't LR anymore for anyone who needs it. Hopefully someone else can do it if it's necessary. Cya!
On December 23 2012 17:22 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hey guys, It's 3:20 AM and I have to be up early tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and head to bed. Sorry I can't LR anymore for anyone who needs it. Hopefully someone else can do it if it's necessary. Cya!
On December 23 2012 17:22 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hey guys, It's 3:20 AM and I have to be up early tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and head to bed. Sorry I can't LR anymore for anyone who needs it. Hopefully someone else can do it if it's necessary. Cya!
On December 23 2012 17:21 silent_owl wrote: Nice play by Trap. Totally screwed over Cure's momentum. Cure almost seemed like he was at a loss after he was continuously shut down.
To be fair to Cure. The match up plays out like that. T has to try to harass early/mid game. If they get shutdown with their harass, they need a really great engagement late game where they can kill/nullify the AoE units of the P fairly quickly (vikings on colo and EMP/snipe on templars).
On December 23 2012 17:36 sitromit wrote: ZvP on Ohana, interesting choice... Will we see a soul train?
Mini would be dumb not too. I havent seen it stopped on this map since OSL ro4 MC vs. DRG and that was only becasue DRG baited like 200 forcefields out in the middle of the map
On December 23 2012 18:08 WhiteSatin wrote: I am sorry I must have not following HOTS close enough... why did they say that the warp-in on the high ground won't work on HOTS anymore ?? O_O
On December 23 2012 18:08 WhiteSatin wrote: I am sorry I must have not following HOTS close enough... why did they say that the warp-in on the high ground won't work on HOTS anymore ?? O_O
What does that have to do with this game?
They were just saying about how Terminator was going to do a warp-in on the high ground tactic, and how us (the viewers) should enjoy it, as we won't see it anymore once HotS is out.
On December 23 2012 18:12 forsooth wrote: Terran on gold base, I remember the endless crying this used to produce.
Made worse by how the maps worked with gold bases ;___;
On December 23 2012 18:08 WhiteSatin wrote: I am sorry I must have not following HOTS close enough... why did they say that the warp-in on the high ground won't work on HOTS anymore ?? O_O
What does that have to do with this game?
They were just saying about how Terminator was going to do a warp-in on the high ground tactic, and how us (the viewers) should enjoy it, as we won't see it anymore once HotS is out.
Oh, that. Yeah, as far as I know high ground warp-in is dead in HotS. Good riddance.
Well... Once that I get lucky and both JYP and Last get unexpectedly sent out as aces and both manage to lose their games... Was hoping for a bit more than a combined -2 from them
On December 23 2012 18:52 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Guess the coach lost this game...Good job sending out Last for T v T.Just genius decision.
...Last is an excellent TvT'er and probably beats Bogus in practice seeing as he got the nod today. If you can beat Flash in a Bo5 your TvT's definitely ace match worthy. It also makes sense because he only had 1 matchup to practice this week instead of giving Bogus two (Team 8 was always gonna send Baby).
wow, strange. jaehoon wins again. STX loses, but 4-3 isn't that bad a scoreline, and the STX player I had on my FPL (hyvaa) won his match. sad about no dear, though i'm happy t8 and baby got wins
On December 23 2012 19:12 opterown wrote: wow, strange. jaehoon wins again. STX loses, but 4-3 isn't that bad a scoreline, and the STX player I had on my FPL (hyvaa) won his match. sad about no dear, though i'm happy t8 and baby got wins
Maybe Jaehoon is finding SC2 easier to deal with from an expectations and nerves standpoint. Good to see him sealing deals.
Sad about Classic though. He's just like Jaehoon. His raw ability is insane but his performance is all about whether or not he feels confident that day. I remember one game where he almost lost in the dumbest way and then regained confidence halfway through the game and ran over his opponent without losing a single marine or something absurd like that.
On December 23 2012 19:43 Sawamura wrote: jaehoon from failhoon to winhoon how is this possible..............
Geesh Sawa, did you not watch Proleague before SC2? He's been improving every year since Pusan became an MBC coach in 2010. I've been saying this for the past 3 seasons already. Jaehoon overcame his mental stress issues some time ago.
Last season he went 12-10 and that was as captain of Team 8. This year he doesn't have the burden of being captain so I expect him to do slightly better than that.
Where do they keep the english vods for these on twitch? Do they put all the different team matches on the same page or a new page for each day? Got it just needed video tab kind of stupid mistake,.
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Ryul2 <Tal'Darim Altar> 
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if not atleast Baby please beat Last for my anti team T.T
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